I regard nigger excrement with more respect than I do Moore. Why? Moore claims to be after the truth, this is bull shit. If he wanted the truth, maybe he wouldnt be such a bias little (well, fat), piece of shit?
Here is a review made by a left winger, like moore, from these other forums I visit:
Dear God, what an awful movie.
I just <s>came back from the theatres</s>got dressed after watching my pirated VCD copy of that shitty movie, and now I'm more pissed at that guy than ever. I mean, this time, Moore has hit a new low. Bowling for Columbine had, at the very least, some decent "movie" qualities. We had interesting shots, good choice of music, a good rythme, and above all, the point was fairly obvious and well developed.
Not so in F9/11. While Moore's bias and blindness towards any kind of statistic that doesn't support his views was obvious in the other movie, Moore didn't even BOTHER with that kind of stuff in F9/11. No, this time he used crying widows, the sobbing mothers of dead soldiers, and pictures of dead Iraqi babies to prove his point. He briefly covered the stuff that EVERYONE knows, that has been around for the past four years about Bush; the Florida election, the shit surrounding removing people from the voting list, and Bush's absence by way of vacation. He covered Bush's 9/11 kindergarten trip, briefly fingered various corporations as per usual, and then started up with the tear jerking, vote wrenching sob stories.
This is unacceptable.
I'm pretty left wing. However, I'm not left wing to the point of slavishly following anyone who sticks it to the right wing parties. And this kind of stuff REALLY pisses me off. Why? Well, essentially what Michael Moore is doing is claiming he is the "truth." By screaming "Liar" in the general direction of anyone who has a conservative leaning, Moore is acting as the sole light of "truth" to the poor dumbass left wingers, while, through showing individual scenes of horror and despair, he nudges some of the right wingers with humanitarian leanings (and that's most of them. Being right wing doesn't mean your evil, it means you have a different economic and political view) to the left side against Bush.
I HATE that. I want to see Bush kicked out as much as anyone who has a left leaning, but I don't want to see those representing the left side stoop to that level. I don't want to see the "BIAS LEFT WING MEDIA" become a reality. I don't want to see Moore's shit influence the vote of people who should be forming their own opinion. Moore's tactics in this movie are underhanded, cowardly, and downright dishonest. Yeah, of course I feel sorry for the woman who lost her son in Iraq, of course I hate seeing that kind of thing, of course I don't want to see soldiers lives put needlessly into danger. I certainly don't want to see the US in Iraq, but then, I don't really want to see them in Afghanistan either.
Oh yes, speaking of Afghanistan: One thing Moore failed to mention about that. He made it seem that the US was playing the ONLY role in Afghanistan, when the mission there is a NATO one, not a US one alone. The time that was spent before US troops got there? Organizing NATO and UN meetings. NATO, see, has this little thing called "Article 5," which states that if there is any attack on a NATO nation, it would be as though NATO itself was attacked. Handy. So while I don't want to see them there, NATO (mostly US, since the US foots something like 25% of the NATO budget) troops are lawfully there by international law.
Right alongside Moore's insistence that he is the truth goes his implication that his movies are documentaries. Folks, they aren't. I've seen many the documentary, I'm pretty interested in politics, see, and documentaries have proven in the past to be an excellent, if bias, source of information. However, that's what they are, sources of information. A continuous stream of information that supports facts first and arranges the bias around ALL the facts. Not so in Moore's movie. He seems to prefer that the bias arrange the facts, discarding any that don't fit in. If you want to see good documentaries, check out the BBC (I watched one recently called "Nuclear Nightmare - Understanding North Korea") or check out one of my favorites, called "The Fifty Years War," a documentary about the Israel/Palestine conflict. What Moore presents is not a documentary, but then, I'm not really sure WHAT it is. It's not really a comedy, though it has qualities, it's not action, romance, etc. It's sort of drama, but with a sick twist. I think I'll leave it at a really fucking long propaganda commercial, right alongside the ones the Bush administration is putting out weekly.
Sadly, the anti-Moore revolutionary front is a weak army at best. One of the primary reasons for the dislike for anti-Moore sentiment amongst us left wingers is this: almost every single anti-Moore information source is far, far right wing in nature. They present some DAMN good information, such as <a href="http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/" target="_blank">Bowling For Truth,</a> but the information, like Moore's films, is always clouded by the EXTREME bias. Hell, just as what I'm writing is. But what folks don't seem to realize is that bias, so long as it is backed up by facts, figures, data, events, etc. is not a bad thing. It's what drives people to create these sites and these films. However, bias, when let out of control, can create monstrosities like Moore's films.
Just a final comment, because I'm hungry and want to finish writing this quickly: Most people have a general hatred for and disinterest in politics. This is really, really dangerous. I think the biggest problem with Moore's films is not that it misrepresents itself, but that it creates a "false" interest in politics amongst the younger generation, who tend to be left wing. It conveys a false sense of knowledge based on a single source, which, in turn, bends the truth well past the breaking point just as much as any evil Fox news broadcaster ever did. In our rush to condemn anyone who doesn't agree with our "moral" viewpoint, we've bloody well become the very thing that we hate. I love many of the ideals of the left wing. I love the moral and social backbone that makes up the various left wing ideologies. And I sure as hell love living in a country where I can express this love. But I've also come to love it through reading essays, keeping up on news, following certain events, and above all, realizing that letting bias cloud your eyes completely will make me no better than those who care nothing for politics at all.
Knowledge IS power, folks, but if Moore's followers are any indication, it's beginning to look like ignorance is a hell of a lot stronger.
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Some of my own opinion now. Since when is it the parents choice on wether their kids enlist or not? It fucking isnt, its the kids choice. If they choose not to, so fucking be it. That part of the movie made the least sense, he was asking parents to enlist their kids in the army...what the FUCK? Thats bull. Also, you guys may wanna check out http://bowlingfortruth.com. Im sure there will be one like this for this movie soon enough. Yes, this site may also be bias, but at least it exposes some of his lies.
Note: Sorry if anything I said was mentioned, Im kind of in a hurry, didnt have time to read over the entire thread.
Another edit: http://suprnova.org has a torrent for this movie, thats where I got my copy. May take a bit longer, but who cares. I let it go while I slept and it finished. Enjoy.