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he'll pull it off. He did his apprenticeship under Johnny Rocket, who made Inkslinger's (Honolulu) famous for his biomech/geiger-esque/escher-inspired style famous. Only downside is he's only been out of his apprenticeship 6 years, and is already running a shop of his own (the only truly quyality shop in this town, so I guess he knows talent when he sees it, and has a good business head, as well as being an artist/craftsman...not a common combination, IMO). He's got my 100% trust, which is unsusual for me to say about any tattooist...most previous works, I watch minutely, and make suggestions on changes/adaptations as they work...I watched him work for me for the first 10 minutes after designing was done ( having watched him work on other customers for about four hours while talking to him in preperation), then stuck my headphones on, tuned out, and let him work.

Depends on what you do for living..I wear suits or business clothes (slacks, button down, tie, jacket) for my "main job" (vendor repping for a small direct from dealerships auto product company), do the computer businesses from home, etcetera. As long as it starts farther up your wrist than your watch rides, and you wear colered shirts of decent thickness, just about anywhere from wrist to ankle below collarbone is inkable safely, arms, forearms, shoulders, and calves are goign to be seen most often when you're out and about recreationally.

Depends on where you mean by "County"...if you mean county lockup, been there a number of times with no damage to any of the ink I'd collected BEFORE starting this piece (17 individual pieces), and only 2 fights (both of which ended up with ME being the one spending the rest of the week, or longer, in ISO unit). Generally, in jail, people don't fuck with people's ink..it's actually respected, unless you're sporting the "fratboy" type crap like a Tazmanian devil, or some kanji you can't even remember what it's SUPPOSED to mean. Granted, SOME ink means more than other pieces, in jails, like the stuff the Brotherhood tends to sport, or the La Raza hispanic stylings, or the like...and if I had anythign anything LIKE that stuff, and went to lockup, you're right, it'd get carved off if I couldn't prove my bona-fides, or beat the shit out of the first guy to say something to me about it so badly as to cause me to be charged with serious charges while IN...which DOES happen, from time to time, but hasn't happened to me, because all my time's been soft time in county lockups, and I don't have anything along those lines on me (nor will I ever). Aside from that, thanks, I'm looking forward to it myself...all hardware will be greyscale, with solid black or white for logos, some "components" may be done to look like carbon fiber, and all the biological stuff is goign to be done in tones of purple with green and aquamarine highlights, to make it looks kind of glisteny and iridescent.

When I'm done, it will be a "full suit", if you'd read above. I've already got the concept basics for both sleeves, both legs, back, chest, and stomach, and the specifics on how to blend the "themes" so I'm not stuck with one theme/subject matter to work with. The left arm, when finished, will have close to 50 hours minimum on it (making it $5K-$7500 worth of inkwork, since I don't live near, or travel to any of the $200+/hr big name artists, just find the best talent in driving distance for the style I'm looking for at the time), Right arm will actually have more hours in it, with what I'm planning to do, but the work itself will mostly be self-designed for the "frontpieces", and the background is going one of two ways...either I'll have to find one hell of a blackwork/greyscale artist within 2 hours' drive of me to do the background as a collage piece from pics of gargoyles of medieval churches and castles, or it will be biotechnical style again for the main background, but almost purely biological material in nature, in skin tone, with "holes" in the "grafted/cultured biomass" through which you can see full color and realistic muyscle mass, ligaments, and such (in which case I'll have the same artist who's doing this 3/4 sleeve do that background "tie-in" work). Each leg is looking like 40-50 hours of needle time, and with what I want done on chest/belly and back, I can't even start to guess until I've talked to the artist I end up picking to do the pieces how many hours each will be. At any rate, by the time I'm done, assuming I live long enough to finish, there will be somewhere between $30K and $80K in ink laid into my skin. As a result of this fact, my wife and I are already in contact with the artist's (former coroner) who uses donated human bodies and animal carcasses that he patented a unique embalming process to permenantly embalm bodies and body parts agency in discussion about "donating" my skin after all useable organs are harvested, and changing my will to reflect this...if firstly, he's interested, and secondly, we can come to agreeable contractual terms with him, he'll get my skin as an "artistic material" when I die...or, at least whatever part of it is inked, or that he desires to work with.

Actually, trying to talk my wife into getting electrolysis (permenant hair removal) on her pubes, leaving her with a "rsacing stripe", then getting a little tattoo of a mexiucan with a hand-push lawnmower off to one side....no luck so far....wonder why.

I'd have to agree with you, silQ, because "in general" you get wannabe counterculture assholes or frat boy/sorority whore/military types walkign in, picking a flash off the wall, and saying "put that on me", idiots getting imporpoerly translated Kanji placed on them, without knowing a thinhg about the culture they're stealing from, much less the literall meaning of that symbol in the native "language symbol map", just because it's trendy, or some airhead wanting a butterfly, faerie, or random star put on her ankle or foot or something because it's "cute". There are really three types of people who get ink...those who get one without having fully thought it through, and eventually regret it, those who get one the same way, but wake up a month to six weeks later FEENING for ink because the one experience turned them into endorphine junkies, who spend the rest of their lives trying to get that fix, and to find a way to satisfactorally "repair" that first insufficiently thought through piece, and those who get that first one after thingking it through carefully, putting somethign on them they really DO believe they'll want for life, and wake up a month to six weeks later, feening for ink, and start a partial or full body murakl shortly thereafter. I was one of the middle category...my first two or three pieces weren't well considered, and the second and third resulted from me just craving the level and length of endorphine high that I hadn't found any other way to get besides tattooing yet...I'm still in the process of "repairing" a couple of those poor decisions (as you can see if you look at the wrist portion of those pics well enough...the tribal is insuyfficient coverup of "jailhouse" style work, and the sleeve I'm now putting on finishes the coverup, while retaining the integrity of the tribal, which was the last professional piece of a friend/tattooist who died 18 months ago), but at this point, I have every intention of doing a full body mural that has deep and multilayered signifigance in the symbols, and, in its way, is as symbolicly signifigant as a Maori or Tongan Elder's tribal scarification and inkwork is within his culture. note: pardon all the mispellings and typoes, my afternoon dose of PTSD meds just kicked in, and until I adjust to the effects, I'm effectively "drunk" when it comes to coordination.

Negative...those scales also represent "Justice" from Tarot decks. Other symbols from Tarot that will be worked into the lower 3/4 sleeve are Strength (Major Arcana 8, represented by a female and a docile lion), the Sun, the Moon, and the Star (all major arcana) on the upper arm, above the sleeve will be more blatant symbols...I already have one for the ace of swords, will be adding ace of cups, pentacles, and clubs, queen of cups (represents my wife's "personal card"), the lovers, the tower and a modified representation of "The World" major arcana card as depicted in the Dragon Tarot version..and if I have room, the Fool and The Hermit.

Costs go up with cost of "renting a chair", which are all tied in with shop rent and utilities costs (and the owner's greediness). We're in a moderately small city, fairly cheap to live in for Western Washington, the shop is downtown in "prime" space, but he has a pair of piercists, and four other inkers, plus two apprentices (real apprentices, they work for minimum wage, do scut work, and will do minor ink work under supervision for nothing but tips for 3 years, minimum), plus he's got the best credentials for his own background (apprenticed himself under one of the premier names for biomechanical style body art, then RE-apprenticed himself for a year to another internationally known guy [hint, he's known for his distinctive skulls])...so his parlor is the priciest per-hour in town, all considered, but well worth it There are a couple shops that charge a higher hourly, but they're basically two or three man shops, so can't bring in the volume income to cover overhead the way Steve's shop can, nor do they have the business smarts or reputation (or backgrounds) to compete...so generally there are a couple higher priced shops that last six months to a year and a half competing, then collapse, around here. From what I've seen, across the country, $125 seems to be about an "average" hourly price for decent quality inkwork in a decent shop, upwards to $500 an hour for work from guys like Gil Christ and John Shaw, who live in expensive places (L.A. and NYC, last I heard), and have such reputations attatched to their names that they're booked solid on 70+ hour weeks up to a year in advance. As for your suggestion....for the chest/belly, I'm really looking for someone with a rep in photorealistic color work with wildlife, and heavy ties to Native American stylings, for the back, I want someone with the "soft tough" with colors for a concept I've got of MY take on what Buddha is/was/means from a Zen perspective that recognizes that, while action is futile, "being" occasionally forces action upon one...action of a violently defensive nature (something along the lines of the Shao Lin variation of Buddhism, but not quite), for the right arm, I'm actually considering having one of the apprentices at Old School work on me from self-designed stuff, since it's going to be wristbanded with a Viking pre-battle prayer done in elder futhark runic, a bunch of heralidic style art pieces representing Western European mythology (representations of the fae, dragons, unicorns, grimgashes, and other myths of medievil peasantry, done in heraldic artist style) all tied together with one flowing ribbon tied into celtic knotwork with the ends free instead of connected, flowing off to chest and back at the shoulder.

Hourly (for in-shop work, no less) is a benjamin an hour, and he's up here in Bellingham, WA. His name's Steve, he's the owner of Old School Tattoo. From workjing with him, I've decided he's more artist than craftsman, which is unusual in inkslingers, so I'm going to have him complete this arm, and possibly do my chest/belly work, before starting to hunt another artist (I don't want to too much be one inkslinger's "canvas", or I lose too much of what being inked means to me to begin with)

3 and a half hours of designing (direct on skin and on paper), transferred to digital and paper flash copies, which myself and the artist both kept copies of, then 2 hours under an outlining needle...about 2/5 done with outlines (another 3 hours under the outline gun, and we start shading for the 3/4 sleeve that ends about 1/3 of the length between shoulder and elbow above elbow, and blend it into another style and heavier symbol use from there to shoulder) http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/1979/sleeveoutlines0tv.th.jpg I'm loving it so far...he's working all the tarot symbols I want in the lower piece in as "manufacturer's marks" and "corporate logoes" on tech pieces on a biomech layout. Colors will be greyscale on all the "hardware" wiring and such, "copperscale" or "carbon fiber" on components, and purple/green/aquamarine on "wetware" ("biomass") so it has a kind of iridescent look...heavily Giger influenced style.

The MIT kids who did Vegas were taught the card counting system by an analytical calc professor, four of them teamed up over Spring Break, went to Atlantic City, and, working together, basically robbed the joint until they were accused of unspecified "cheating", and asked to leave. They then got a few more friends involved, and started spending weekends and breaks at Vegas, working in teams, with some of them losing "small bet" pots on purpose, while the winners were always BIG winners, all of them in concert working the card counting bit and communicating the counts, while "lookouts" kept an eye out for open security/management observation, and would drop signals for them to change their signalling system. When they were finally caught, it was a hard catch, they were banned from all Nevada casinos by the gaming commission, but they explained in detail how and what was done to work the "scam". That scam's a relatively famous story by now, and solid documentation of the real events are easily accessed through the mit.edu site, if you know how to search it right (all Master's and PhD thesis documents are available in PDF format or .WFV scanned document format, at the very least since 2002, and many before that, hard copies can be ordered "as reference material" for a fee, and documents that were published, as this one was, are available in multiple formats through the library services.) Hysteria, I agree, playing the "no pass" line on smeone proven to be a short roller can be fun as hell, as it pisses them (and many system players) off, and REALLY annoys the superstitious players, who think that sort of thing (or saying "crapping out" or anything of the sort, or naming the "unnamed number") will "jinx" the roller. In all honesty, craps is the best REAL odds in any casino, and, if you play it right, and have memorized combo statistics, and pay attention, then you can stay even or even pull slowly ahead, steadily, and indefinately, despite "house padding" of the odds with 7's...if you pay attention to the ROLLERS, as it goes around, and have any feel for "hot dice" or "hot rollers", or conversely, a "cold table", you can double or triple your money pretty easily in the first hour, thenh do it again and again, until the table itself drops cold on you. Then you can switch tables, start slowly (for safety), and, as soon as you have the feel, start playing "big" again. Unfortunately indian casinos don't have "big limits" tables out here. Lemon Coated, it's not hard to memorize the statistics for every possible combo, or, better yet, for particular numbers to come up. That's half the job. With 2 six sided dice, you "strictly"have a 1 in 36 chance of any given pair coming up (1:1, 1:2, 1:3, 1:4, 1:5, 1:6, 2:1, 2:2.......6:6), you can bet any number to "stand" as long as a single individual roller is rolling (roller changes when he hits a 7, any way, and all bets except "one shot" bets of "any seven" come off the table...and THOSE are sucker bets, since they only pay off if that particular roll is a 7, and otherwise, the money goes to the house). since a 7 can be 6:1, 5:2, 4:3, 3:4, 2:5, 6:1, this means that you have a 6 in 36 1 in 6) chance of a 7 coming up, strictly speaking, on any roll, and costing you your money unless it's an opening roll (in which case it doubles what you had on the pass line). Since betting "any 7" only pays 5:1 odds, you'll lose money playing that bet, regardless. Aside from that, you can do standing bets on "the field" (2:1 odds for 3, 4, 9, 10, & 11, 3:1 odds on snake eyes, and 4:1 odds on boxcars), and this bet will "ride" unless a 5, 6, 7, or 8 hits, so you basically have 16:36 (4:9) chance of being paid on that bet, 14:36 (7:18) chance of hitting 5, 6, or 8, and losing the "play the field bet, and a 1:6 chance of losing anything on the table (assuming you're not playing the 5:1 payoff "any 7" one roll bets), and also 1:18 of those "play the field" bets will pay 3:1 (1.5 times the money back, plus your original bet on snakeyes) or 4:1 (three times your original bet, plus the original bet on boxcars) you can place "riding" number bets on 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, and 10, and these are the numbers that can be "on". The odds on each number are as follows: 4 = 1:3 2:2 3:1 3:36 = 1:12 5 = 1:4 2:3 3:2 4:1 4:36 = 1:9 6 = 1:5 2:4 3:3 4:2 5:1 5:36 = 5:36 8 = 2:6 3:5 4:4 5:3 6:2 5:36 = 5:36 9 = 3:6 4:5 5:4 6:3 4:36 = 1:9 10 = 6:4 5:5 4:6 3:36 = 1:12 As you can see, 6 and 8 will come up about once every 7 rolls (which is why they usually pay off oddly, so on a $5 table, you need to place bets in multiples of $6 on them), and 5 comes up once in 9 rolls on average. So, as a beginner, if you play the pass line with a minimal bet, then go "triple" behind it if it's a "good" number ($5 table, play 5 on pass line, add $15 behind it if 5, 6, 8, or 9 is "on" after opening roll, then put $10 on the field, and 5, 6, and 6 respectively on 5, 6, and 8, then you should stand to steadily win small amounts of money. On opening roll, though, what's smart is minimal bet on pass line, "play the field", and 2 bucks on "any craps" (8:1 odds) if you roll 7 (1:6 odds) you get $5 back for winning opening roll on "pass line, and lose $7 between "any craps" and "play the field"...you're down $2, but if you get 11, you get paid on the pass line and the field, and lose your $2, so you're up $8, if you roll 12, you gain 4:1 on "play the field" and "any craps" pays 8:1, while you lose the $5 pass line bet, giving you $24 of the casino's money offf the $7 in those two spots, and taking your pass line $5 (so you're up $19 for having $12 on the table that you CAN'T lose all of, no matter what), a 3 pays you 1 for1 on "play the field" and 8:1 on "any craps, giving you $11 of the casino's money, leaving the $7 you had on "any craps" and "play the field", and taking your $5 "pass line", leaving you $6 up, and a 2 pays 8 for one on "any craps" and 3 for one on "play the field", so you get $16 of the casino's money, and lose your $5 pass line bet. What all this means is for an opening roll, $12 spread $5 on pass line, $5 on "play the field", and $2 on "any craps" will pay SOMETHING if you land on anything but 5, 6, or 8 (14:36 chance), so you have 22:36 chance on winning SOMETHING, period, even if it's a $3 total gain for landing on 4, 9, or 10, or a $2 loss because a 7 "came out". even if 5, 6, or 8 "come out" and are "on", you lose your "play the field" bet and your "any craps" bet ($7 loss), but you now have $5 on 1 for 1 on three of the four highest hitting numbers that CAN win, and can put $15 more behind it (which I would if it were 6 or 8, plus covering both of them with a running bet). But if you come out "on" 10 or 4, leave just the $5 there, and play 5, 6, 8, 9, or any combination of them, directly (preferably 6 and 8) ON the number...the payout is slightly over 1 for 1, and your odds are best on those 4 (combined odds for playing all 4 are 2:1 you'll hit on one of them, with 6:1 odds against a 7 landing and wiping you) to boost slow winnings, sometimes it's worth playing HALF what you have on 5 and 9 on "play the field", and for fun, sometimes making rolling side bets (big 6 and/or 8, "hard way" bets, and the like, which stay on the table until removed, a t comes up, or someone rolls the "on" number, which causes a new "coming out" roll)...the point of making that "half what you have covering the 5 and 9" "play the field" bet is this...2:1, you're gonna hit on 5, 6, 8, or 9, and get paid slightly better than 1 for 1 (if you got $10 on 5, and it rolls 5, you get paid $21 or $22, depending on casino, $10 of which was yours to begin with, anyhow...take the winnings, leave the original bet until you feel it's time to start clearing the table of potential losses)...so 1 out of two times, you'll make $11 or $12, and lose $5, for a net gain of $6 or $7...statistically, you'll do that three times before a 7 comes out. and then agaion, theres always the chance of a winning roll "blowing" it...but you ALSO have a 7 in 18 chance of making at least $5 off any particular roll on the play the field, and a 1 in 18 chance of it being $10 or $15..so you gain slower on the 5, 6, 8, 9 bets, but you end up staying ahead on the win/loss curve (you'll win enough extra on the payouts on the 5, 6, 8, 9 direct bets, and the occasional pass line payoff to more than make up for the exta 2 in 18 times you lose $5 on "play the field", especially once the two 1:36 bets (boxcars and snakeyes) are factored in)....now this is a formula for a SLOW gain over a period setup, with losses that sometimes seem disproportionate, until odds catch back up with you, but it's purely the statistics of the game and the payout odds....it takes maybe 117 "game" rolls (not counting "coming out" rolls), sometimes less, sometimes more, to turn your original $100 + $50 "reserve" (which a couple bad rolls in a row...like 7 within 2 rolls of getting "on" happening 3 or four times running... early on may force you to dip into to stay in) to be pretty solidly sure of being $100 "up" on the casino, at this rate...about 30 minutes of play, to be honest. play the same way for another 30 minutes (unless coming out rolls and 6/8 have been kind to you, and you're already $300+ "up" on the casino), then start playing the same basic system, at double the money, for the next 30 minutes, then triple the money...by the time you start your second hour, you SHOLD, statistically speaking, be playing with the casino's money, running $400-$500 at a time on the table, and consistantly coming out ahead...if you're NOT coming out ahead, it's either because the tabel "went cold" for everyone, you're not playing the odds properly, or you just have no judgement at all when it comes to paying attention to who rolls how, and how consistantly.

Since my latest bout of bans from FPS servers over "hacks" that aren't even hacks (EA Games and Valve both left sounds moddable by players, if you didn't know that...by using distinctive sounds for walking on different surfaces, climbing, and such, and then using an editor to make those sounds hugely loud (so they are better at a distance) and have (huge amplitheater" reverb, you get a "legal" cheat that is almsot as nice as an up-front aimbot. The mods I had on my CS told me when someone was on CT tower when I was in building...ANYWHERE in building. A bit of practice, I could headshot them the instant I heard them touch the ladder frojm the lower BD corner, running a game that was "stock" aside from Valve permitted and assisted modifications. ANyhow...having gotten bored, I took $100 "gambling" money, and $50 "reserve" money down to the local reservation casino craps table. Just playing it off what I cou;d caclulate of odds regarding the rules I learned that first night, I walked out $730 ahead, on a $5 minimum bet/$500 max on the table 6's required on 6 and 8 table. So I started going regularly, and playing the same tables, allowing myself the same $150 starting money every time...been at this for about twop weeks now, have had four times where I played for 2.5-4 hours and lost my "starter money" (but not before I passed at least a couple grand's worth of chips back and forth in play), but as of now, my total shows me at better than $4k up. New sectional sofa arrives tomorrow, new hardwood flooring being put in daughter's room, and a hardwood "Japanese Foyer" being built at my front door (both in red oak), sending wife to a day spa first Monday in April for a full day treatment, and getting started on fininshing the wrist-to-above-the-elbow portion of my lefthand ink sleeve on the 6th (spending two hours doing the full layout and custom flash, fitted specifically to me, then another two hours doing some outlining, and some of the lowest area of coloring *by the bit of wrist I already have done with the tribal, to complete the coverup work on the botched piece I got with a homemade gun as a kid). Lesson to be learned: if you think maths or statistics are too boring to "waste your time on", there's definately at least ONE way to make them pay pretty big, even if you gotta be careful and slow building up enough and NEVER play for the "big wins", just let them come when he odds say they will, because the big losses hit more often....the slow steady gains are where the money comes in.

Maker's Mark is a decent one for the price, but GOOD whiskies cost. Bushmill's 1608 (BEST Irish ever) LouisXIV (about $400 USD per bottle...not positive of the TYPE, but it's a blended whiskey, only tasted it once) Famous Grouse (Irish) A.H. Hirsch (burbon) Black Maple Hill (burbon) Balvenie (single malt scotch) Aberlour A'Bunadh (single malt scotch) Black Bush (good Irish) Classic Cask (GREAT Rye whiskey, about $125/bottle) The best stuff, though, is the "microstill" stuff you can occasionally get from home 'stillers...none of the stuff I've done has aged enough (yet) to be truly quality (only been into brewing and distilling for about 14 years now, my first TRUE whiskey is less than 10 years old...decent stuff, but not "great" yet) And if you're just looking to get fucked up, most states allow homebrewing...and there's no age limit or law regarding having homebrewing supplies UNTIL the stuff is fermented...distilling the resulting mash is simplicity itself...if you want to make some shit with KICK, just for getting fucked up on cheap and easy, all you need is 5 pounds of glutinous rice or potatoes or even apples, a gallon of kayro syrup (the dark kind) and a $0.75 packet of champagne yeast to start with, and in less than a month, you can turn out a gallon of 160 proof + (80% alcahol) "juice" with little to no flavor of its own, perfect for use in spiking a melon, making jello shots, or dropping into juices to get totally fucked up on...of course, you'll have to aquire a few other bits and pieces to DO this, but if you're really wanting to know how, drop a PM.

Depends on the whiskey, man...you talking rye, sour mash, burbon, irish, or scotch (and if scotch, single malt or blended?)? With a single malt scotch...you don't mix it with ANYTHING...waste of time, waste of whiskey. irish can be mixed with cranberry juice, coffee, water, lemonade, or sour mix, and be passable blended scotches work with cola or seltzer water, or can be mixed with orange juice (a whiskey scewdriver is basically what a Harvey Wallbanger is) sour mash is GREAT for whiskey sours, for cranberry juice mixing, in a Harvey, or with a tropical fruit juice mix burbon: cheap burbon, mix with cola, sour mix, or anythign tart...GOOD burbon, don't mix with anything, just pour a LITTLE water in if you can't take it straight., or chase it with a beer, boilermaker style.

Wouldn't do any good, moron...whatcha think is IN your gut? Hydrochloric acid (at about 6 molar dilution) I can't think of anything aside from pure hydrochloric that'll perf your stomach lining because of the acidity...the cleaning solvents and such that manage it generally work because the acid-neutralizing chemicals involved damage the mucus of the stomach lining, and then the alkali materials involved eat their way through, or allow toxic chemicals to make it to the bloodstream, where they cause OTHER organs to fail (for instance, drain cleaner causes bloody vomit and explosive bloody shits, but what kills you is the liver and kidney failure caused by secondary absorption) If I decided to off myself, I think my favortite method would be a headfirst dive onto concrete from 6+ stories...that way all witnesses are traumatized (rage), and SOME poor sap (or detail of saps) has to sponge up the big nasty SPLAT (more rage). Second choice would be homemade explosive "vest" in a highly public place, designed to splatter myself over as much municipal property as possible, in as populated an area as possible.

Possibly, but not definate...not hard to set logging to trigger on keywords for storage, thus storing only stuff legal staff determines is most liely to be subpoenaed...but you're right, I dunno how likely this is, I just know that such warrants HAVE been served to IM companies in the past, and have yielded evidenciary items. However, that doesn't stand in the way at all of being cause for issuance of a warrant for the other personal computer(s) involved, to compare logs, which would be courtroom-worthy evidence, nor does it invalidate the fact that such logs needn't meet standard rules of evidence to be admissable, since the issue isn't whether the threats were made or not, but IF the complaining party "reasonably and rationally felt in fear of his life or safety", for whatever reason.

LOL EyeReesh...he doesn't have to wait for the guy to come in the house, in many states. TX, FL, WA, KS, I know for sure, and several others I'm pretty sure of...if you own or are buying the property (or are a legitimate resident of a non-rented property), all you have to do is post a sign waringin them "no tresspassing", or make record (for your protection) of telling them to leave the property or be considered to be tresspassing with intent...after that, so long as their injuries indicate that they were NOT in the process of leaving the property (not shot in the back, for instance), you're covered, legally...you MIGHT be arrested (probably will) and interviewed, but as soon as a lawyer shows up for you, you're as good as off the hook in the states I mentioned, and any state with similar laws...you won't be jugged for more than a full business day (so don't do this Friday afternoon, or you'll be in jail until Monday/Teusday afternoon). Be worth aquiring a wireless USB hub and hookign up a webcam and microphone, if you do this, so you have audio and video record of you telling him to leave, then reacting "out of fear" when he doesn't...the "panic" excuse...especially if you have a believable story about multiple threatening phone calls over a "joke" and veiled threats, and the like (which he does...even has some cyber-evidence, it seems, in the way of the girl's IM communications)...is one that's OFTEN been successfully used to excuse "overzealous" violent behavior in a "self defense" defense for assault or manslaughter. However, what I was referring to is that that evidence be used to support your reason for feeling "in danger for life or safety"...and in THAT circumstance, they WOULD be permissable as evidence, since they are NOT "material evidence", or "proof of threat", siomply record you are providing to SUPPORT the actual evidence (the claim that you felt threatened, and feeling thusly was resonable and rational)..in a harrassment or felony threats case, you needn't be able to PROVE the threats (though it helps), you just need to be able to support the idea that you WERE threatened, and felt endangered because of them...witness testimony is all the "proof" you need, generally, and ANY sort of documentation, especially of the sort that they can verify through HIS computers, or by subpoenaing the relevant records from the IM program server owner, is just "icing on the cake"...audio record is even better, since, if required, experts can verify whose voices are involved, and that the recording was untampered. You're right, EyeReesh...the logs on HIS system couldn't be used in a court of law..but they COULD be used to cause warrant to be issued for THEIR logs...and if they match, THEN they could be used as evidence in a court...but the thing is...IM proggies pass through a third party server, which DOES log and track...which IS acceptable as evidence, as is well established in harrassment cases involving cyber-threats.

I took a felony threats conviction off less, mate. Why you think I ended up taking the time to learn these particular laws so well? Granted, the judge evidently felt that I was at least somewhat justified, even if technically in violation of the law, because I got off with a community service/fines/anger management class at own expense sentence (1 year, suspended, contingent on fulfilling all other requirements within 3 months). The thing you're missing is IF there is a technical violation of the law, a judge CAN'T legally throw out the case...in order for them to dismiss, they have to find there WAS no technical violation of the law...otherwise prosecution asks appelate court for a case review, and if the judge threw out a valid case, he's going to be disbarred, amongst other things.

Actually, you can. They are stating an intention to come on to your property without permission (tresspass, which is a violation of property rights, which is violation of his rights AND property, right there) The tone used is clearly threatening...if the intention was communication, or to read him chapters form the bible, that doesn't matter, the very fact that they did not EXPRESSLY state a harmless intention allows for him to make any interperetation of such "threats" as he wishes...at which point, the legal stance becomes "is his interperetation of the threat to violate his property rights a REASONABLE one? WOuld a rational person be able to interperet this as a threat to his safety, life, property, or rights?"...since a reasonable and rational person could EASILY, in this situation make a completely rational case for "the only obvious reson for him to threaten to come over is to offer physical violence, since anythign that could be done through NON-physical interaction could be done over the phone, and he CLEARLY had phone access to me", he's got THAT covered. So, all in all, if he documented such a threat, he could reasonably demand (not request, but actually file charges himself, contact the local prosecutor's office, and DEMAND that either an arrest be made, or a court date be set and warrant issued in the event of failure to appear, which is a citizen's right in EVERY state) on a flat minimum of two charges, one being a "strike" violent felony (felony threats, falls under assault in the 4th), the other being a non-violent felony in most jurisdictions(expressed intention to commit a personal or property crime against another, to wit intention to tresspass, even though tresspass itself is a misdemeanor, the THREAT is not, in most places), which falls under "felony harrassment" laws in most states...especially as it took place over telecommunications equipment that puts it in the "interstate communication of threats" area...

Wrong, heklim...ANY browser is susceptible, since what is it is an exploit of the fax and image viewer. What it works out as, is by posting a WMF on a stie that has particular modifications done to it, when it's downloaded as a file "cookie" into the temporary internet folder, and changed to a bmp instead of a WMF (something ALL browsers typically do), it's capable of causing a buffer overflow in the F&IV built into NT2K, NT2K3, ME, and XP which is still automatically associated with such files, even if they haven't actively been clicked by the user (at least according to industry releases regarding the exploit) Personally, though, I haven't managed to get it to RUN any code for me unless the person has accepted the WMF, and actually double-clicked it (LOOKED at in in F&IV), but then again, maybe I haven't been doing it completely correctly (taking full advantage of the exploitable situation)

Buncha lightweights....

10MG of ambien isn't shit...that's standard dose for habitual insomniacs, and is less than the dose I've got of DSS related PTSD sleeping issues. If you're awake enough to STAY awake through it, you'll get a sort of weak buzz...nasically, it just leaves you scatterbrained, incapable of concentrating on anything for long, and a bit disoriented, but there's no real "high" from it....no euphoria, no "feeling good", not even any real physical buzz (though, at times, it DOES kind of feel like your balance controls are experiencing "high lag"...you're not really dizzy, but your legs and feet react to balance corrections enough slower that you're a bit clumsy) IME, in order to get any sort of noticable "buzz" off ambien, you've got to do at least 20MG, and chase it with a couple drinks...THEN they kind of ramp eachother up, so you feel drunker than you are, and the "balancve lag" and disorientation of ambien is more noticable, and somewhat enjoyable. The downside oto all this is I can't stay awake if I do 30MG...about 40 minutes later, I'm snoring like a buzzbomb, no matter WHAT I try to do...so I get 10 or fifteen minutes worth of "buzz" if I pop three of them, then a good 4-6 hours of dreamless sleep.

Just his threatening to "come to your house" is grounds for assault in the 4th, since he didn't specify WHY...it's perfectly "rational and reasonable" for you to construe this as a physical threat...because OBVIOUSLY there's no need for him to come to your house to TALK to you...he's talking to you already, or he coul;dn't have made the threat to come over "if he could find out where you live"...so what OTHER purpose could he have had in mind? Was he offering to come paint your house for you? HELL no! The only "reasonable" way to construe that is a threat to come do somethign to you physically he couldn't do over the phone...something that required the ability to lay hands on you...thus it is a "credible threat of physical damage or death", just not an EXPRESS threat of either. If you've got documentation of it, you can have him arrested, even if you later drop the charges. hell, with FL's legal interperetations, you don't even need the documentation to get the cops on his doorstep...get him to say it again, and call the cops IMMEDIATELY...record it if you can, but ACT SCARED if you record yourself at all...so that you've documentation that you took it as a serious threat...that's all it takes for it to be a felony, is for you to REASONABLY believe that he meant it as a threat of bodily harm, and "had fear" that he could and might carry it out.

LOL...well, if you've been around the last 4 years...4 and a half, really, you probably noticed a couple periods where I was conspicuously absent...both of those were related to me being locked up on misdemeanor assault charges, though in both cases, they TRIED to get me for felony charges...the second one, the only reason I did any jail time at all was I was still on the tail end of the probation portion of the first conviction. And both of these "assaults" started out with me RL "raging" someone until they did something stupid. And, in both cases, the other dumbshit got himself in worse trouble than I got myself in...which is really the point of this sort of thing. In the first case, the other guy was afraid I'd showed up to beat his ass (long story, but I'd made no threats at all, and there were witnesses to the whole thing), and decided he was going to be pro-active in defending himself...he got in a couple swings with a length of 2X4 before I got my hands on an aluminum bat that was sitting out in the area...the short of it is he ended up losing sight in one eye, claims there's brain damage (couldn't get a doctor to say there WAS in court, but got one to say there were "signs of potential damage that haven't yet been fully explored"), and walks with a permenant limp...the ONLY reason I was charged with anything more than "disturbing the peace" was I didn't stop swinging the bat when he stopped trying to get back up, but HE ended up being charged with GTA, destruction of private property (both stemming from the original reason he'd thought I was going to beat his ass), assault with a deadly weapon, and felony possession (meth and illegal vicodin on him when he went to the hospital), mostly because he told the cops what he'd done to make him so sure I was there to attack him, admitted I'd made no verbal threats OR attempt to attack him first, then got his ass whipped so bad that he was unable to dump the dope before the cops showed... He's still locked up. I got 18 months probation,with 90 days of it spent in county lockup, which gave me a semester off school, and otherwise didn't hurt a damned thing (I run a computer repair, home networking, and custom building "shop" out of my house, do some "vendor repping" for warranties for auto dealerships, and live off what I saved while working in F&I and sales, while going to school...so I got a friend to fill in on the computer stuff, and aside from that, my income didn't even take a real hit while I was "away"...lol)...IMO, a fair trade, considering. But I've had others work out even better...ask around about what I did to a maggot on here who went by the name Von Doitch, and you'll laugh...but the upshot is, he fucked up, as did his family, with availability of real info on the net...so I bent the hell out of a few laws, without actually BREAKING any that I'm aware of, and they lost utilities for a couple weeks, until they were able to straighten the mess out. I can't go into details, because some of it was VERY sketchy, legally, and I might possibly have crossed the line a couple times, so I won't admit methodology, just responsibility <grin> For the IRL stuff, though...well...you know how too many idiots have loud PRIVATE conversations on cell phones in public? I pay attention to them. Then I embarrass the fuck out of the person having them. Like I recently ended up semi-coincidentally following this idiot bitch around the grocery store as she gossipped about the office she worked at, told her friend that the "problem she'd been having down there" turned out to only be a yeast infection, etcetera....Since she'd really nastily gossipped about a lady named Donna at work, and mentioned that she'd been afraid that ANOTHER guy at work had given her an STD, I just followed and listened...then, in the checout line, I faked gettign on MY cell phone, and loudly "told my wife" about this silly slitch who "apparantly works at Intalco with you" who'd been screwing <guy's name>, thought he'd given her an STD, had said <this and that> about "your friend, Donna", and had had all sorts of nasty shit to say about her supervisor that "Donna might enjoy passing on"....the whole time I'm talking, this bitch is getting paler and paler....until I "hung up", and told her "My wife doesn't work at Intalco, but you never would have known that if I hadn't just told you, and what if she had, or I did, or someone else who had to listen to you be a total bitch at the top of your lungs the whole time you picked up your bonbons and haagen-dazz, you stupid cow?"....was just TOO fun for words.

Death99, I'm not even a paralegal, I'm just REALLY good at looking things up in the public law libraries, and have had plenty of reason to familiarize myself with assault laws in several of the jurisdictions I've lived in (I'm one of those assholes who just won't learn when not to say something wiseass, even if it means I'm gonna get stomped)... If you have any interest in that sort of stuff, legal codes for every state, and most federal laws can be found, verbatim, on http://www.findlaw.com, as well as links for case law examples. SickEmpire, damned straight...that's the sort of rage that causes them to come looking for you if you really trash their lives, or makes them so afraid of the results of fucking with you that they leave the state to make certain they avoid you, from then on...and it's bloody FUN <grin>