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jesus... was that the only thing he did? or did he hurt the people in the house? if not dude... that is seriously fucked up..
Allen's incarceration has cost North Carolina taxpayers nearly $30,000 a year, or about a $1 million so far.

 

Jesus fucking CHRIST. Now THAT makes me proud to not be american. Where the fuck is the logic here?

 

As for the woman who owned the television set, she was in her 80s at the time of the crime and passed away in 1977. Several of her relatives contacted us about this story and said Allen has paid for his crime. They insist the reason he got such a harsh sentence was because he fought with the victim -- a crime for which Allen was never charged.

 

Yeah, retard relatives. It only makes sense that he does hard jail time for a crime he was pardoned for. And since when is minor fucking assault, even if he really did it, a life sentence? Fuck you.

who gives a fuck, it's his fault he stole the TV, why did he do it?

 

in saudi arabia he would have been beheaded, the law system in north america is for lenient liberal pansies, that's why crimes are rampant.

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Techno_Warrior']who gives a fuck, it's his fault he stole the TV, why did he do it?

 

in saudi arabia he would have been beheaded, the law system in north america is for lenient liberal pansies, that's why crimes are rampant.

 

 

Techno, why are you myg0t if you think this way?

 

Do you even realize that myg0t is a pretty "liberal" group. We enjoy raging people and breaking the general rules. This is a pretty liberal idea. I'm sure anarchist may best desribe us, but we sure the hell are far from the conserative way of thinking. By your statements, I'd assume you'd think if a myg0t member got 20 years for raging a server or crashing a server, that would be ok.

 

Think about it, before you go making yourself look like a fool again.

yeah man you're an idiot
techno just wanted to sound cool.

I know we're liberal, stealing shit from people's homes is one thing and crashing or raging servers is another. How would you like it if someone breaks into your house and robs you of your posessions? Could be your tv, money or whatever. The USA has a 3 strikes law now and it's intended to keep repeat offenders from commiting crime again, it's meant to protect the public.

 

OMP, criminals in real life don't give a flying fuck about you, they live off your tax dollars and yet come back to steal something, rape someone or kill someone. Let it be someone off the streets or some white collar CEO, they don't give a fuck about what happens to you or someone you know from their malicious actions; and neither should you if they're caught and sent to jail.

 

There's a line to be drawn for freedom, I bet no one would like to live in total anarchy, humans are not beings that like to fend off alone. However revolutions do occur in all governments, that's when a political power has exercised too much force over their people, eventually it comes crumbling down and stays open for a fresh start. It's been happening since the dawn of mankind.

 

You ask why am I in myg0t if i think that way? I've always loved to piss off people, I get pleasure from their hatred. It's the way I am and it's the way I'll always be. If you say myg0t is liberal then we are all entitled to our own opinions, some of us like communism, some like faschism, and some like anarchy. These are not perfect systems to live under, they all have perks and flaws. The fact is that there is no perfect system, we live off chaos and change, society is an organism and it will never be a Utopia, no matter what.

how would you feel if it was you techno? one day you're down on your luck and need some extra cash, so you break into a house and take some shit. next thing you know, you don't see the light of day for the next 30 years. 30 years. it seems to escape you, but thats a long fuckin time for one simple mistake. and he hardly did shit.

you're a repeat criminal, i am, g0d is, my dad, my mom, everyone has broken the law at some point, at least once. would you like to be locked up for life over possession, or jaywalking? it wasn't even a violent crime, not that he was convicted of.

 

how are crashing servers different than crashing houses? both are illegal, both cause misery for the receiving party. one is just significantly less likely that you'll be caught, and you don't see the people you're hurting, so that makes it ok?

 

theft under a hundred grand doesn't deserve a life sentence any more than a speeding ticket does. breaking the law is breaking the law, but where do you draw the line?

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Lets compare your average poor criminal who robs say a Circle K for 100 dollars to your curropt CEO of a Large corporation. The CEO gets rich by lieing, cheating and stealing from hard working men, while not paying taxes thanks to government tax breaks. They steal millions and take away peoples 401k's and retirement funds. Look at Enron those CEO's robbed the company blind and sent left their hard working employees with nothing, even made their 401's worthless. Those fuckers are the ones you need to see sent to prison for life. They didnt steal someone's stupid ass TV, they food from a mans table. They stole a college money for little Jimmy. They stole peoples house payments and car payments.

 

Least a poor man has a excuse to steal, cuz he dont have shit. The rich corporate criminals don't have a excuse, cept they greedy heartless bastards. The sick shit is, they dont go to jail, 99% of the time, instead the corporation lets them go with 5 million in severance pay and benefits for the next 10-20 years. Yet the poor black man who steals a fucking TV gets life?

 

That shit aint right. Fuck the government.

 

Techno, I was a criminal when I was a kid/younger. Shit I spent plenty of time in jail and county. I know what it's like to be a product of your enviroment. I came from the gutter and I dont forget that. When I was a kid my house was robbed 4 times. Did it ruin my life? Fuck no, items can be replaced, big fucking deal. Yes a punishment is in order, but that punishment needs to fit the crime. Even then, if some poor bastard just asked me, shit I'd prob give it to him. Cuz I remember what its like to not have shit and to live like shit. I'm still not a rich man, I do alright, but I'm still in the struggle.

OldManPeterson']Lets compare your average poor criminal who robs say a Circle K for 100 dollars to your curropt CEO of a Large corporation.

 

I agree with most of what you are saying OMP, but what you forget, is that 7 out of 10 times, the guy robbing the circle K will shoot you if you deny him money. The diffrence between the 2 crimes is the level of violence involved.

Well said, Snakeyes..

 

OMP, I don't think I'd label myg0t "liberal", since currently, ""liberal" means "equal rights for everyone...more equal, if you belong to a group that was disciminated against in the past"...racism, fascism, the concept of "punish them anyhow, they've got to be guilty of SOMETHING, even if inocent of what they're being punished for", superiority based on ANY racial or belief system, or national derivation, the "I'm better than you because I'm richer (or my parents are), or smarter, or better looking, or in better shape" or whatever...all of these are very CONSERVATIVE ideas..and it IS possible to be a conservative anarchist..which many of the people on these forums seem to be, judging by the opinions they express.

 

A liberal wants everyone to be treated equally, regardless of race, sexual orientation, religion, country of origin, and physical ability unrelated to the job (this describes the MOST conservative liberal), and thinks that anyone who can do the job should be allowed to, at same pay for same work...so far, I agree with them..but when they want to enact "quotas" that give extra credit towards getting a job (affirmative action) for belonging to a minority, or lower the physical standards for women so more of them can get a physical job like fireman or cop, or anything else that makes nonsense out of this "equal pay for equal work, and if they CAN do the job, they deserve to get hired" war cry total nonsense....and this is what the average liberal voted for, in large enough majority to enact these laws...the worst liberals (socialists and libertarians) want EVERYONE to get the same pay, whether they earn it or not...their claim is a doctor who works a 40 hour week deserves no more pay for this than a schoolteacher, fireman, cop, or landscaper who works 40 hour weeks..and that all working people should pay enough in taxes to provide health benefits for EVERYONE, and welfare programs and government benefits enough to pay government employees the same rate, AND pay at least subsistance level fees to anyone who "can't find work"....plus child care subsidies for orphans and underprivledged children....in this country alone, more than half the population is on public assistance, or paid for by government payroll already....look at taxes now, and the deficit....do the figuring, and see where their ideas take us...

 

I think you're equating "conservative" with "nationalist"...people who put the State and the biggest providers to the state (big corporations) ahead of the individual....and I'd agree with you on THAT being bullshit.

 

 

 

OK...all that aside...I agree with you that 30 years for minor assault while engaged in committing a felony should have been no more than a class C felony (max of 5 years), and 30+ years is total bullshit...legally, the guy should have appealed sentence, and served, at max, 11 years IF they ran consecutive max sentences...he committed three crimes, two of which were technically felonies, but both were class C (B&E is a class C felony, minor assault while engaged in a felony is a class C felony automatically, and the theft was misdemeanor burglary)..All I can say is A.) the judge should be disbarred, and B.) the guy's an idiot, and had shitty legal counsel....*I* know enough law to have been able to get it reduced to max legal terms, consecutive....a legal aid lawyer damned well should have been able to do so...and the ACLU should have had him free, and being paid restitution 20 years ago, just based on the original sentence!

 

 

Techno....none of the crimes he committed were "strikes"..."strikes" (in the states that have the three strike law) are violent felonies..misdemeanor assault, upgraded to felony because of circumstances isn't a "violent felony", nor are any of the other crimes he was convicted of...I know the strikes law because I've had three felony convictions so far, and barely managed to avoid conviction for one which WOULD have been a "strike" and cost me the right to posssess my firearms, AND would have required my wife either move out with her guns, or surrender her CCP and provide proof that HER guns were stored outside our property. (the convictions were felony threats [falls under harrassment laws], felonious negligence in a reckless endangerment case, and violations of explosives possessions laws [got caught for using a pipe bomb to remove a treestump], for those who give a flying fuck), and the sentence terms were technically illegal, according to both the State and Federal constitution, according to http://www.findlaw.com...look it up yourself.

 

 

P.S.... OMP...you may want to check up on the conviction claims I made here...if you do, PM me, and I'll provide the info you need to do so...I have enough respect for you and the intelligence you show regularly to trust you with such info (not meaning to sound like a kissass, even though it DOES sound like major brownosing :) )

I don't see how you can relate myg0t's activities to anything worthy of imprisonment.

 

OMP you're not alone in having lived life in the ghetto, I spent nearly 10 years growing up in one of the worst ghettoes of Toronto. I was involved in gangs and participated in gang activities. I paid for it with my wasted youth, but in turn learned valuable lessons from my experience.

 

The idea I grew up under was eye for an eye, if someone smacks you, smack them 10 times harder. They had the intention of harming you, return the favor. Try stealing the tv of a gang member, you'll be lucky to escape with your life. No matter how trivial the deal is, it's still a sign that they don't give a fuck about you or your property.

 

That man that stole the TV probably though he was going to get off easy with it, he certainly did not deserve a life sentence but my argument is about paying for your actions.

Techno....none of the crimes he committed were "strikes"..."strikes" (in the states that have the three strike law) are violent felonies..misdemeanor assault, upgraded to felony because of circumstances isn't a "violent felony", nor are any of the other crimes he was convicted of...I know the strikes law because I've had three felony convictions so far, and barely managed to avoid conviction for one which WOULD have been a "strike" and cost me the right to posssess my firearms, AND would have required my wife either move out with her guns, or surrender her CCP and provide proof that HER guns were stored outside our property. (the convictions were felony threats [falls under harrassment laws], felonious negligence in a reckless endangerment case, and violations of explosives possessions laws [got caught for using a pipe bomb to remove a treestump], for those who give a flying fuck), and the sentence terms were technically illegal, according to both the State and Federal constitution, according to http://www.findlaw.com...look it up yourself.

 

 

Yeah, the guy should have done time...OMP didn't argue that...nor did anyone else...but 30 years is fucking outrageous (and an illegal sentence) for two class C felonies and a misdemeanor, even if senetences run consecutive, instead of the more usual concurrant...the guy SHOULD have been out within 3 years, max, with good behavior, by the sentencing guidelines of the state.

PsychoBud the term you're looking for to describe myg0t on the political spectrum is "reactionary," it almost means so far right-winged that you become liberal. Many reactionaries (sp?) wish for things to go back to the way they used to be, ie before Lincoln gave porch monkeys "equality" (he did not free them)

 

And BaltiTowers is there a reason you have to post in EVERY thread? quit with your useless garbage

 

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PsychoBud the term you're looking for to describe myg0t on the political spectrum is "reactionary," it almost means so far right-winged that you become liberal. Many reactionaries (sp?) wish for things to go back to the way they used to be, ie before Lincoln gave porch monkeys "equality" (he did not free them)

 

And BaltiTowers is there a reason you have to post in EVERY thread? quit with your useless garbage

 

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Jealous ?

 

just coz i won the lottery and can afford to do fuck all.

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