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Anyone out there tried to use the 54MBPS wireless USB "NIC" setups from linksys?

 

I'm thinking about going wireless with kids' comps and wife's, but haven't decided whether I should go with the $79 a piece linksys PCI cards and the router/firewall, or if I should try the USB versions, which cost half as much, but have less power, and more limited range standards (has to be line of sight as well as within distance, is my understanding)

I'd go for the more powerful stuff and here is why. LOTS of people have wireless these days. Sniff around your neighborhood and you'd be surprised how many wireless networks you'll find. Big problem though is the more wireless 802.11 networks around you, the more interference you get and that creates problems with range and signal quality. Thus why the more powerful shit is better. Just my opinion though.

 

Hell just running netstumbler here at work, I find 22 wireless networks.

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hmm...but that's also a security issue, then...allows easier "eavesdropping"...

 

I was already planning on subnetting things so each individual comp/wireless port was it's own distinct subnetwork, with only the two available hosts on it...which gives SOME security, and I'd decided on the router model that has four RJ45 Fa ports as well as 4 wireless ports...so that I could leave MY box hardwired, for security.

 

In your opinion, OMP, would I be better off remaining with a physically wired setup, and just getting a better standard router, or switching to the combo setup?

Wired.

 

:yes:

Combo is really the best solution. So if the wireless has issues, you can go wired or not have to go pure wireless for computers that have no need for it. I personally recommend Linksys, they have really emerged as the leader in networking devices in the last year, plus Cisco bought them. :)

 

Security is not a issue if you make it a concern of yours. Security is a issue for idiots that assume its secure and never bother to research how to secure their stuff.

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Security is not a issue if you make it a concern of yours. Security is a issue for idiots that assume its secure and never bother to research how to secure their stuff.

 

Good point.

securiety is not an issue at all, the new wireless routers come with 2 types of securierty to dissallow fags to join your network through WLAN, the first type is using a WEP key, it is simple, simly make up a 10 digit number (depends on wich bit type ur using) and based on it, signal from the rounter will be encrypted, and signal incoming will be decreypted. This number must also be placed on every other device attempting to use your WLAN to be able to have your network understand each other :)

 

the second type is by using mac-addresses, each computer or device has a unique mac-address, you can add mac addresses and grant them access, or restrict them, but id go with the above one unless you have a neighborhood of fags, you can easily set up both

 

my WLAN router is a DLINK, and i see it very affective and efficent (its combo, WLAN and Wires)

 

also the combo router can have more computers by attaching wireless access points that support several computers and have a wider and longer range :)

m8 i have wireless 50mb connection from pc to internet downstairs accross the house and i tell yer, its bloody excellent, no difference between wired n wireless, well wireless can be hacked into but its v v v hard and the hackers gotta be in your house to get the signal so its unlikely lol. i get pings of 20 on uk cs servers its just as good and i expect easier to setup, mine is usb too so just plug n play, proper good if u got a laptop, i go out in garden with it :)
m8 i have wireless 50mb connection from pc to internet downstairs accross the house and i tell yer, its bloody excellent, no difference between wired n wireless, well wireless can be hacked into but its v v v hard and the hackers gotta be in your house to get the signal so its unlikely lol. i get pings of 20 on uk cs servers its just as good and i expect easier to setup, mine is usb too so just plug n play, proper good if u got a laptop, i go out in garden with it :)

 

Pr0n in the garden on a nice sunny day, with a ice cold beer.

my usb doesnt work... so its not really plug and play if u have to fuck around with bios
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thanks for the input guys...but we've strayed from the question :)

 

I'm already familiar with the security risks and solutions involved in wireless..my question is "are the "USB NIC" setups from linksys more limited than the PCI card versions of the same thing, beyond what the manufacturer puts on the box? (linksys says on the box that the USB version requires "open air" for signal to travel through between points on the USB version...a complete wall with a closed solid door is capable of causing signal interference, which supposedly isn't an issue with the PCI card version of the same equipment)

 

Anyone here who's used both the USB "wirelss NIC" and the PCI version, and can make a decent comparison of the two?

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the second type is by using mac-addresses, each computer or device has a unique mac-address, you can add mac addresses and grant them access, or restrict them, but id go with the above one unless you have a neighborhood of fags, you can easily set up both

 

you're talking about layer two identification tables...using layer two routing/switching protocols is something I intended to do anyhow...that's part of why I was planning to subnet it so that each ethernet port and single computer made a two host private network of its own...I'm not concerned with internal communication, since I load remote access programs into the computers of everyone in my family, anyhow, to make remote maintenance easier...lol.

you're talking about layer two identification tables...using layer two routing/switching protocols is something I intended to do anyhow...that's part of why I was planning to subnet it so that each ethernet port and single computer made a two host private network of its own...I'm not concerned with internal communication, since I load remote access programs into the computers of everyone in my family, anyhow, to make remote maintenance easier...lol.

 

bill gates, fuck off

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lol...Gates is a progger, not a network tech...I'm much stronger in networking and hardware than I am in progging...

 

what can I say? I use networking info daily, and the company I'm working for is helpng pay for my "higher certs"....oh well :)

i bet u hack iraq comps , loaded with deadly mosque prayers
rofl..nope...I spend more time trying to find information I can use for profit :)

 

oh...and free programs, and such :)

 

you remind me of chandler....

']securiety is not an issue at all' date=' the new wireless routers come with 2 types of securierty to dissallow fags to join your network through WLAN, the first type is using a WEP key, it is simple, simly make up a 10 digit number (depends on wich bit type ur using) and based on it, signal from the rounter will be encrypted, and signal incoming will be decreypted. This number must also be placed on every other device attempting to use your WLAN to be able to have your network understand each other :) [/quote']

 

Useless security right here, I went to my friends dorm, with just about 50 wireless networks are running, each one had this type of security. Take me about 1-5 days to brute force my way in.

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the second type is by using mac-addresses, each computer or device has a unique mac-address, you can add mac addresses and grant them access, or restrict them, but id go with the above one unless you have a neighborhood of fags, you can easily set up both

Never tried, but i've heard about how you can change the mac address on a nic card. Since you PC broadcast's its mac publicly, there wouldn't be any problem in finding them. Only snag with this is when thier card and your card are both on, and they have an idendity crisis. Most people are way to dumb to even know what a mac address is, let alone find it on thier PC.

 

 

 

Put some wires in you lazy ass, wireless is useless shit untill it gets secured. I could have droped in a wireless router for my home network, but whats the fucking point when I only have to connect two computers, 10 bucks for a 4 port +1 uplink hub, and 1 free 10/100 card to connect the other computer and one stolen 50 foot network cord to go upstairs, took me 10 mins to hook it all up from installing the card to running the cord, and I don't have to worry about people jumping on my connection, or it getting taken down by someone getting a call on a cellphone.

thanks for the input guys...but we've strayed from the question :)

 

I'm already familiar with the security risks and solutions involved in wireless..my question is "are the "USB NIC" setups from linksys more limited than the PCI card versions of the same thing, beyond what the manufacturer puts on the box? (linksys says on the box that the USB version requires "open air" for signal to travel through between points on the USB version...a complete wall with a closed solid door is capable of causing signal interference, which supposedly isn't an issue with the PCI card version of the same equipment)

 

Anyone here who's used both the USB "wirelss NIC" and the PCI version, and can make a decent comparison of the two?

 

 

friend in a dorm is paying for his wireless internet that has to pass through a bathroom wall, and hes useing a PCI wireless card. He might as well train a monkey to transfer packets back and forth on a notecard because his connection is total shit.

 

Get out a hammer, and put a small hole in your wall, run a cable, put some spackle around the hole after the cable is through, and be done with it.

Glocken's a fuckin idiot...anyways i got some tutorials and some info on some parts including wireless ethernet cards, including that model (my dad uses it) so check out the site http://www.vokalcs.tk/
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