November 30, 200519 yr Keep harrassing her, even if they tried to take it to court the judge would laugh it out of the court room.
November 30, 200519 yr Okay then, seems like you've done this before. Share storys. LOL...well, if you've been around the last 4 years...4 and a half, really, you probably noticed a couple periods where I was conspicuously absent...both of those were related to me being locked up on misdemeanor assault charges, though in both cases, they TRIED to get me for felony charges...the second one, the only reason I did any jail time at all was I was still on the tail end of the probation portion of the first conviction. And both of these "assaults" started out with me RL "raging" someone until they did something stupid. And, in both cases, the other dumbshit got himself in worse trouble than I got myself in...which is really the point of this sort of thing. In the first case, the other guy was afraid I'd showed up to beat his ass (long story, but I'd made no threats at all, and there were witnesses to the whole thing), and decided he was going to be pro-active in defending himself...he got in a couple swings with a length of 2X4 before I got my hands on an aluminum bat that was sitting out in the area...the short of it is he ended up losing sight in one eye, claims there's brain damage (couldn't get a doctor to say there WAS in court, but got one to say there were "signs of potential damage that haven't yet been fully explored"), and walks with a permenant limp...the ONLY reason I was charged with anything more than "disturbing the peace" was I didn't stop swinging the bat when he stopped trying to get back up, but HE ended up being charged with GTA, destruction of private property (both stemming from the original reason he'd thought I was going to beat his ass), assault with a deadly weapon, and felony possession (meth and illegal vicodin on him when he went to the hospital), mostly because he told the cops what he'd done to make him so sure I was there to attack him, admitted I'd made no verbal threats OR attempt to attack him first, then got his ass whipped so bad that he was unable to dump the dope before the cops showed... He's still locked up. I got 18 months probation,with 90 days of it spent in county lockup, which gave me a semester off school, and otherwise didn't hurt a damned thing (I run a computer repair, home networking, and custom building "shop" out of my house, do some "vendor repping" for warranties for auto dealerships, and live off what I saved while working in F&I and sales, while going to school...so I got a friend to fill in on the computer stuff, and aside from that, my income didn't even take a real hit while I was "away"...lol)...IMO, a fair trade, considering. But I've had others work out even better...ask around about what I did to a maggot on here who went by the name Von Doitch, and you'll laugh...but the upshot is, he fucked up, as did his family, with availability of real info on the net...so I bent the hell out of a few laws, without actually BREAKING any that I'm aware of, and they lost utilities for a couple weeks, until they were able to straighten the mess out. I can't go into details, because some of it was VERY sketchy, legally, and I might possibly have crossed the line a couple times, so I won't admit methodology, just responsibility <grin> For the IRL stuff, though...well...you know how too many idiots have loud PRIVATE conversations on cell phones in public? I pay attention to them. Then I embarrass the fuck out of the person having them. Like I recently ended up semi-coincidentally following this idiot bitch around the grocery store as she gossipped about the office she worked at, told her friend that the "problem she'd been having down there" turned out to only be a yeast infection, etcetera....Since she'd really nastily gossipped about a lady named Donna at work, and mentioned that she'd been afraid that ANOTHER guy at work had given her an STD, I just followed and listened...then, in the checout line, I faked gettign on MY cell phone, and loudly "told my wife" about this silly slitch who "apparantly works at Intalco with you" who'd been screwing <guy's name>, thought he'd given her an STD, had said <this and that> about "your friend, Donna", and had had all sorts of nasty shit to say about her supervisor that "Donna might enjoy passing on"....the whole time I'm talking, this bitch is getting paler and paler....until I "hung up", and told her "My wife doesn't work at Intalco, but you never would have known that if I hadn't just told you, and what if she had, or I did, or someone else who had to listen to you be a total bitch at the top of your lungs the whole time you picked up your bonbons and haagen-dazz, you stupid cow?"....was just TOO fun for words.
November 30, 200519 yr Author The mental harrassment charge is old and has been repealed. I wasn't aware of that =]. But no, I haven't sent ANYTHING malicious or threatening =]. So they really can't do anything, which is why I'm not worried. Assault as far as nothing the authorities is not covered in a USCode, but it may be part of an Fl code. Assualt by defintion in the USCode only covers threatening death/pysical harm =[. However, trying to get someone falsely accoused is covered under another code, i believe. If things get nasty, I will go for getting them arrested. I'm still waiting for her dad to come to my house. =[
December 1, 200519 yr Just his threatening to "come to your house" is grounds for assault in the 4th, since he didn't specify WHY...it's perfectly "rational and reasonable" for you to construe this as a physical threat...because OBVIOUSLY there's no need for him to come to your house to TALK to you...he's talking to you already, or he coul;dn't have made the threat to come over "if he could find out where you live"...so what OTHER purpose could he have had in mind? Was he offering to come paint your house for you? HELL no! The only "reasonable" way to construe that is a threat to come do somethign to you physically he couldn't do over the phone...something that required the ability to lay hands on you...thus it is a "credible threat of physical damage or death", just not an EXPRESS threat of either. If you've got documentation of it, you can have him arrested, even if you later drop the charges. hell, with FL's legal interperetations, you don't even need the documentation to get the cops on his doorstep...get him to say it again, and call the cops IMMEDIATELY...record it if you can, but ACT SCARED if you record yourself at all...so that you've documentation that you took it as a serious threat...that's all it takes for it to be a felony, is for you to REASONABLY believe that he meant it as a threat of bodily harm, and "had fear" that he could and might carry it out.
January 8, 200619 yr It would be funnier if you recorded you getting your ass kicked by a 50 year old man. P.S. Martial arts don't help much and you're a homo for doing it for 9 years.
January 8, 200619 yr PsychoBud']Just his threatening to "come to your house" is grounds for assault in the 4th, since he didn't specify WHY...it's perfectly "rational and reasonable" for you to construe this as a physical threat...because OBVIOUSLY there's no need for him to come to your house to TALK to you...he's talking to you already, or he coul;dn't have made the threat to come over "if he could find out where you live"...so what OTHER purpose could he have had in mind? Was he offering to come paint your house for you? HELL no! The only "reasonable" way to construe that is a threat to come do somethign to you physically he couldn't do over the phone...something that required the ability to lay hands on you...thus it is a "credible threat of physical damage or death", just not an EXPRESS threat of either. If you've got documentation of it, you can have him arrested, even if you later drop the charges. hell, with FL's legal interperetations, you don't even need the documentation to get the cops on his doorstep...get him to say it again, and call the cops IMMEDIATELY...record it if you can, but ACT SCARED if you record yourself at all...so that you've documentation that you took it as a serious threat...that's all it takes for it to be a felony, is for you to REASONABLY believe that he meant it as a threat of bodily harm, and "had fear" that he could and might carry it out. You can't get someone arrested for not giving a reason to go to your house.
January 8, 200619 yr PsychoBud']Jesus Christ, do some fucking homework...mental distress isn't grounds for any criminal charge...at most, they can sue you in CIVIL court over that, idiot! The only potential criminal charges I could see coming from this would be "harrassment" charges, and in most states, even those couldn't be applied, since there's no potential for them to have any fear for their safety, life, or property. As long as you're not the one sending them malware or attempting computer tresspass, so far, from what you've said, there's no chance at ALL of any criminal being pressed against you, and very little chance they could manage to sue you civilly... HOWEVER, if you want some fun, all you need is ANY docyumentation (logs of IMs, recorded phone calls, especially messages on voice mail) that could be interpereted as threats of harm to get her or daddy charged with assault in the 4th (felony harrassment)...all it takes for you to press those criminal charges is to tell the cops that the threat you documented made you feel like your life was in danger...it's a D felony (5 year max sentence, up to $10K in fines, and MANDATROY anger management and counselling at the expense of the convict, on top of loss of all sorts of shit for a felony conviction)...in other words, if you've got documentation, you can cost this guy his voting rights, his right to own a gun (it's considered a "violent felony" AND a "strike" by 29 states), a buttload of money, loss of any insurance or medical liscenses, refusal to renew SEC liscenses or real estate lisences, security clearences, etcetera. On top of that, some states consider it felony harrassment to threaten someone with reporting them to the authorities for things they didn't do...so if you aren't the one sending them those files, and their accusing you of it, and threatening to have you arrested, you might have grounds for pressing charges on them THERE, too. Have fun with it, man, because THERE is your rage potential...upsetting them over grandma dying in the garage ain't shit compared to upsetting them over that, THEN managing to get them both convicted of a "strike" felony. Im with Mr. Logical.
January 8, 200619 yr rifk just send them more dead grandma stuff (do some anonymusly why not) until he gets pissed enough to come to your house and beat the shit out of you, take pics and movies pussy. almost anything you say is protected by freedom of speech, since it isnt a threat to them. just talkin smack about a dead grandma, and what is the freedom of speech without being able to talk smack about corpses?
January 8, 200619 yr You can't get someone arrested for not giving a reason to go to your house. Actually, you can. They are stating an intention to come on to your property without permission (tresspass, which is a violation of property rights, which is violation of his rights AND property, right there) The tone used is clearly threatening...if the intention was communication, or to read him chapters form the bible, that doesn't matter, the very fact that they did not EXPRESSLY state a harmless intention allows for him to make any interperetation of such "threats" as he wishes...at which point, the legal stance becomes "is his interperetation of the threat to violate his property rights a REASONABLE one? WOuld a rational person be able to interperet this as a threat to his safety, life, property, or rights?"...since a reasonable and rational person could EASILY, in this situation make a completely rational case for "the only obvious reson for him to threaten to come over is to offer physical violence, since anythign that could be done through NON-physical interaction could be done over the phone, and he CLEARLY had phone access to me", he's got THAT covered. So, all in all, if he documented such a threat, he could reasonably demand (not request, but actually file charges himself, contact the local prosecutor's office, and DEMAND that either an arrest be made, or a court date be set and warrant issued in the event of failure to appear, which is a citizen's right in EVERY state) on a flat minimum of two charges, one being a "strike" violent felony (felony threats, falls under assault in the 4th), the other being a non-violent felony in most jurisdictions(expressed intention to commit a personal or property crime against another, to wit intention to tresspass, even though tresspass itself is a misdemeanor, the THREAT is not, in most places), which falls under "felony harrassment" laws in most states...especially as it took place over telecommunications equipment that puts it in the "interstate communication of threats" area...
January 9, 200619 yr PsychoBud']Actually, you can. They are stating an intention to come on to your property without permission (tresspass, which is a violation of property rights, which is violation of his rights AND property, right there) The tone used is clearly threatening...if the intention was communication, or to read him chapters form the bible, that doesn't matter, the very fact that they did not EXPRESSLY state a harmless intention allows for him to make any interperetation of such "threats" as he wishes...at which point, the legal stance becomes "is his interperetation of the threat to violate his property rights a REASONABLE one? WOuld a rational person be able to interperet this as a threat to his safety, life, property, or rights?"...since a reasonable and rational person could EASILY, in this situation make a completely rational case for "the only obvious reson for him to threaten to come over is to offer physical violence, since anythign that could be done through NON-physical interaction could be done over the phone, and he CLEARLY had phone access to me", he's got THAT covered. So, all in all, if he documented such a threat, he could reasonably demand (not request, but actually file charges himself, contact the local prosecutor's office, and DEMAND that either an arrest be made, or a court date be set and warrant issued in the event of failure to appear, which is a citizen's right in EVERY state) on a flat minimum of two charges, one being a "strike" violent felony (felony threats, falls under assault in the 4th), the other being a non-violent felony in most jurisdictions(expressed intention to commit a personal or property crime against another, to wit intention to tresspass, even though tresspass itself is a misdemeanor, the THREAT is not, in most places), which falls under "felony harrassment" laws in most states...especially as it took place over telecommunications equipment that puts it in the "interstate communication of threats" area... Okay I read the first few sentences because to read everything yuo've written here would take three years. But if you took this to court, they'd probably throw it out is what I'm saying. You do have grounds, but no judge is gonna do anything about it.
January 9, 200619 yr PsychoBud'] the ONLY reason I was charged with anything more than "disturbing the peace" was I didn't stop swinging the bat when he stopped trying to get back up rifk... in my opinion one of the best quotes ever...
January 9, 200619 yr Okay I read the first few sentences because to read everything yuo've written here would take three years. But if you took this to court, they'd probably throw it out is what I'm saying. You do have grounds, but no judge is gonna do anything about it. I took a felony threats conviction off less, mate. Why you think I ended up taking the time to learn these particular laws so well? Granted, the judge evidently felt that I was at least somewhat justified, even if technically in violation of the law, because I got off with a community service/fines/anger management class at own expense sentence (1 year, suspended, contingent on fulfilling all other requirements within 3 months). The thing you're missing is IF there is a technical violation of the law, a judge CAN'T legally throw out the case...in order for them to dismiss, they have to find there WAS no technical violation of the law...otherwise prosecution asks appelate court for a case review, and if the judge threw out a valid case, he's going to be disbarred, amongst other things.
January 9, 200619 yr so this whole thing started because she didnt want to waste her time talking to a douchebag like you anymore?
January 9, 200619 yr your last name is kirby, therefore, you rwn all with your marshmallowy goodness ftw hahahaha
January 9, 200619 yr Lol, great thread. Pshycho is right though, if he makes another threatining call on your cell phone, save it. Let the cops hear it. They'll have a blast hearing about how you made fun of his dead mom and then he went on trying to threaten you.
January 9, 200619 yr guess what i thought this was funny until she said u shopped at Hot Topic. u r t3h ghey
January 10, 200619 yr PsychoBud']LOL...well, if you've been around the last 4 years...4 and a half, really, you probably noticed a couple periods where I was conspicuously absent...both of those were related to me being locked up on misdemeanor assault charges, though in both cases, they TRIED to get me for felony charges...the second one, the only reason I did any jail time at all was I was still on the tail end of the probation portion of the first conviction. And both of these "assaults" started out with me RL "raging" someone until they did something stupid. And, in both cases, the other dumbshit got himself in worse trouble than I got myself in...which is really the point of this sort of thing. In the first case, the other guy was afraid I'd showed up to beat his ass (long story, but I'd made no threats at all, and there were witnesses to the whole thing), and decided he was going to be pro-active in defending himself...he got in a couple swings with a length of 2X4 before I got my hands on an aluminum bat that was sitting out in the area...the short of it is he ended up losing sight in one eye, claims there's brain damage (couldn't get a doctor to say there WAS in court, but got one to say there were "signs of potential damage that haven't yet been fully explored"), and walks with a permenant limp...the ONLY reason I was charged with anything more than "disturbing the peace" was I didn't stop swinging the bat when he stopped trying to get back up, but HE ended up being charged with GTA, destruction of private property (both stemming from the original reason he'd thought I was going to beat his ass), assault with a deadly weapon, and felony possession (meth and illegal vicodin on him when he went to the hospital), mostly because he told the cops what he'd done to make him so sure I was there to attack him, admitted I'd made no verbal threats OR attempt to attack him first, then got his ass whipped so bad that he was unable to dump the dope before the cops showed... He's still locked up. I got 18 months probation,with 90 days of it spent in county lockup, which gave me a semester off school, and otherwise didn't hurt a damned thing (I run a computer repair, home networking, and custom building "shop" out of my house, do some "vendor repping" for warranties for auto dealerships, and live off what I saved while working in F&I and sales, while going to school...so I got a friend to fill in on the computer stuff, and aside from that, my income didn't even take a real hit while I was "away"...lol)...IMO, a fair trade, considering. But I've had others work out even better...ask around about what I did to a maggot on here who went by the name Von Doitch, and you'll laugh...but the upshot is, he fucked up, as did his family, with availability of real info on the net...so I bent the hell out of a few laws, without actually BREAKING any that I'm aware of, and they lost utilities for a couple weeks, until they were able to straighten the mess out. I can't go into details, because some of it was VERY sketchy, legally, and I might possibly have crossed the line a couple times, so I won't admit methodology, just responsibility <grin> For the IRL stuff, though...well...you know how too many idiots have loud PRIVATE conversations on cell phones in public? I pay attention to them. Then I embarrass the fuck out of the person having them. Like I recently ended up semi-coincidentally following this idiot bitch around the grocery store as she gossipped about the office she worked at, told her friend that the "problem she'd been having down there" turned out to only be a yeast infection, etcetera....Since she'd really nastily gossipped about a lady named Donna at work, and mentioned that she'd been afraid that ANOTHER guy at work had given her an STD, I just followed and listened...then, in the checout line, I faked gettign on MY cell phone, and loudly "told my wife" about this silly slitch who "apparantly works at Intalco with you" who'd been screwing <guy's name>, thought he'd given her an STD, had said <this and that> about "your friend, Donna", and had had all sorts of nasty shit to say about her supervisor that "Donna might enjoy passing on"....the whole time I'm talking, this bitch is getting paler and paler....until I "hung up", and told her "My wife doesn't work at Intalco, but you never would have known that if I hadn't just told you, and what if she had, or I did, or someone else who had to listen to you be a total bitch at the top of your lungs the whole time you picked up your bonbons and haagen-dazz, you stupid cow?"....was just TOO fun for words. Go on, please.
January 10, 200619 yr Jedi Pimp']Wow what a peice of shit post. Looks like we need to start arbirtrarily banning people again. When did you ever stop?
January 10, 200619 yr Look out boys we have an internet tough guy threatening to kick a 50 y/o mans ass with his 9 years of martial arts skillZz. I think you just like flirting with the girl..are you in 7th grade? ROFL JACKIE GO PLAY SOME NEGRO BASEBALL, K?
January 10, 200619 yr http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/1278/540jy.jpg lol your in trouble time to send 100000 messages while shes away :D rifkasaurus
