December 17, 200519 yr d0wn']i would say tool is prog Although Tool's music does not vary greatly in style and technique from album to album (excepting the changes that occur foremost in mood), it is difficult to define their place in reference to traditional musical genres because of their experimental approach to music. Tool are inarguably a part of the rock genre, but just where they fall in that genre and how much influence past groups have exerted on Tool is the subject of intense debate among both fans and casual listeners. In many cases, Tool are categorized as alternative metal, a broad label used to loosely categorize bands (such as Jane's Addiction, Rage Against the Machine, and Faith No More, among others) that straddle the line between the aesthetics and fanbases of metal and alternative rock. But because the term is used more often as an umbrella for bands that blur categories rather than share particular stylistic traits, it is difficult to analyze Tool in conjunction with other alternative metal bands in genre terms. Some consider Tool to be, above all else, a progressive rock (or "prog") band. Those who feel that Tool are progressive rock artists frequently cite the popular (and admittedly broad) definition of prog. It is a style of rock music that seeks to move away from the mainstream by "pushing the envelope" of the rock genre, creating new sounds and styles that often possess a characteristically high level of layering and complexity. Tool certainly possess these things, often making use of polyrhythms, dissonance, and highly technical, unusual, and specialized musical techniques, such as Justin Chancellor's bass performance in the song "Disposition". In addition, many of their songs feature complex time signatures: "The Grudge" is written in 10/8, "Schism" in 5/8 to 7/8 (or in 6.5/8 according Justin Chancellor), and "Lateralus" moves from 9/8 to 8/8 to 7/8. Beyond the broad definition of prog as an experimental art form, however, lies much debate about what really makes a band part of the prog scene. Even the most commonly cited prog bands, such as Rush, Pink Floyd and Emerson Lake and Palmer, challenge the entire notion of the genre by pointing out either implicitly or in their own words the vast differences in sound and style between each of the so-called "prog bands". Perhaps the band most cited as a Tool influence is King Crimson, admittedly a favorite group of Tool themselves. King Crimson are listed at the forefront of progressive rock and frequently mentioned as a way to establish Tool's place in prog using the transitive property. Longtime King Crimson member Robert Fripp has expressed disdain for the term as an oversimplification, and in an interview with Tool, touched briefly on how the two bands relate to each other: Robert Fripp: I was very impressed that the visuals and the band were all part of the same performance. It was... seamless. It was something like, "These guys are playing to the same track." But without being external to the film... There was an integrity to it all. Danny Carey: Thanks... We all kind of grew up listening to you. ... Maynard James Keenan (referring to an upcoming concert tour): First of all we're terrified to go on after you, and second of all we're gonna have all these kids in the audience going, "Hey, TOOL ripped these guys off blind!" Danny Carey: It feels like that sometimes, for sure! Robert Fripp: Do you hear the influence? There's just one figure where I hear an influence, just one. It was a piece we were developing that we dropped. And it's almost exactly the same figure: three note arpeggio with a particular accent from the guitar. So I don't think you could have heard it. That's the only thing. Tool Army exclusive interview So even among the band and their peers there still remains a debate, not only about their place in progressive rock but also about just how closely they resemble their progenitors who are themselves are only debatably established in the genre. When Tool are not called prog, they are typically referred to as some sub-category of metal. Many have argued that Tool belongs in the nu-metal genre, due to their great influence within the genre. Maynard James Keenan's unique style of singing has been repeatedly seen influencing new artists, such as Pete Loeffler (of Chevelle), Aaron Lewis (of Staind), David Draiman (of Disturbed) and Steve Richards (of Taproot). Others would include Fred Durst (of Limp Bizkit), who calls Tool one of his "most favorite bands in the world" [6], although this association is especially prone to debate, due to the noticeable difference between Durst's (usually) rapped vocals, and Keenan's style, which does not include rapping. This conclusion is thought of by many to be incorrect, citing the backwardness of this logic. If such were applied in other cases, the blues artists who influenced Led Zeppelin could be argued as belonging to hard rock, or the salsa artists who influenced The Mars Volta could be thought of as aggro in some sense. Tool are sometimes given an extended genre that would appear to be specific to the band, such as "psychedelic math metal" (see MTV News: The Pain of Perfection) - as other bands that have defied a common classification have. They have also been listed under many genres that people do not normally consider them to be a part of, such as jazz rock (a slight reinforcer to progressive rock assertions), and sometimes even trip-hop, although this occurs mostly as an allusion to a unique live set that featured Tricky. How well one accepts any of the applied classifications is often a matter of taste. Many people are displeased that "genre theory" is being applied to Tool at all, arguing that far too often genre classification is useless or even limiting. HAHAHAHAHA JESUS ROCKS AND TOOL CAN SUCK HIS VEINY FAT COCK.
December 17, 200519 yr The Mars Volta fucking pwns. I saw them live with SOAD. I'm a big fan of them. ps. download led zep.
December 17, 200519 yr d0wn']I've been downloading a lot of "progressive rock" type music. bands like mars volta' date=' godspeed you black emperor, sigur ros, dream theatre, and im really liking some of the shit im finding.. anyone else into this genre of music? what are some other good bands/albums/songs i should download?[/quote'] Dream Theater is fucking awesome. Scenes From a Memory = best album
December 17, 200519 yr oh yeah download songs by the band "At The Drive-In" I recommend Cosmonaut, Arc Arsenal and Enfilade
December 17, 200519 yr The Great Redneck Hope Bastardass GODSTOMPER MAGRUDERGRIND Job for a Cowboy Infest Charles Bronson Very progressive.
December 17, 200519 yr Yngwie Malmsteen ftw. :cool: Even though he's not Progressive. Malmsteen is Progressive rock. All these other bands you are talking about are not progressive Rock. Mars Volta? Not really. They are a great band though. Seriously though. Check out Malmsteen. Steve Vai has some very good Progressive Rock songs. Rush isn't really progressive rock either, all though they rock. Maybe you guys dont know what Progressive rock is...lol. Progressive Rock = Symphonic Rock Rock normally does not have Symphony. Check out Malmsteen, you will see what I mean. Check out his song called "Baroque and Roll"
December 17, 200519 yr Yngwie Malmsteen ftw. :cool: Even though he's not Progressive. fuck that ***got
December 18, 200519 yr Malmsteen is Progressive rock. All these other bands you are talking about are not progressive Rock. Mars Volta? Not really. They are a great band though. Seriously though. Check out Malmsteen. Steve Vai has some very good Progressive Rock songs. Rush isn't really progressive rock either, all though they rock. Maybe you guys dont know what Progressive rock is...lol. Progressive Rock = Symphonic Rock Rock normally does not have Symphony. Check out Malmsteen, you will see what I mean. Check out his song called "Baroque and Roll" Symphonic is called Neo Classical. If you're into that try Symphony X.
December 19, 200519 yr If you like Dream Theater, listen to some Liquid Tension Experiment, it's the same band members, only no vocalist. Symphonic is called Neo Classical. If you're into that try Symphony X. Neo Classical tends to be either a hit or a miss for me, I like a lot of Malmsteen's stuff, but some of it just isn't to my taste. Neither is Symphony X.
December 19, 200519 yr d0wn']...mars volta' date=' ... dream theatre...[/quote'] Altough this kind of music is not my favorite, those 2 bands are quite good. I went to the dream theater show here a week ago.
December 20, 200519 yr mars volta, at the drive in, lacuna coil, sparta ( old members of atdi ) are all pretty good
December 20, 200519 yr Televators by the mars volta is good , i never heard of any of the other bands ! ohshi that song is so awesome.. i've only recently gotten an album by dream theatre and i got 2 albums by mars volta a long time ago .. don't know about the other bands. i got some music by enon a few days ago and i liked it, maybe you could try em out?
December 21, 200519 yr check out muse http://www.museandamuse.com you can stream a load of live videos/music there. also check out Coheed and Cambria (second stage turbine blade)
