January 9, 200619 yr Atheism is a religion, and it's principles are illogical, the fact that you choose to actively not believe in God is having faith in the fact the he does not exist. Whereas other religions are just at the other end of the Religious scale. You can find equally persuasive arguements on both sides and whichever one that fits your personality and character best is the one you end up believing. .kthx.
January 9, 200619 yr mmm.... no.. I'll just call you a dumbass and a troll... Jews had jack shit to do with 9-11. and if you can prove me wrong, I'll retract my statement without arguement. So the hatred of the USA by Muslims in the Middle East has nothing to do with the Jewish state of Israel? Please retract your comment.
January 9, 200619 yr Atheism is a religion, and it's principles are illogical, the fact that you choose to actively not believe in God is having faith in the fact the he does not exist. Whereas other religions are just at the other end of the Religious scale. You can find equally persuasive arguements on both sides and whichever one that fits your personality and character best is the one you end up believing. .kthx. You're just flat wrong. As has been tirelessly pointed out there are no persuasive arguments for the existence of a God. The closest that "God-supporters" can come is with Intelligent Design and the argument that humans are too complex to have evolved on their own without divine intervention (or you can go the route that all forms of life are too complex to have formed). There are numerous problems with this theory, the foremost being that there is absolutely no evidence. How do you know that life is too complex? Because you ran through a simulation of 13 billion years of the universe in your head? Did you simulate trillions upon trillions of generations of life and conclude that humans couldn't have evolved? Even despite the overwhelming evidence? I enjoy that you claim that there is a persuasive argument for the existence of a God, yet, like every other "believer" here you conveniently forgot to post it. Just saying that it is true is not enough. You have to show that it is true.
January 10, 200619 yr ever heard of phi, the divine ratio? its actually quite interesting. look it up, and see how frequently it appears in nature, despite not being the most mathematically efficient number. also referred to as gods building block.
January 10, 200619 yr ever heard of phi, the divine ratio? its actually quite interesting. look it up, and see how frequently it appears in nature, despite not being the most mathematically efficient number. also referred to as gods building block. Wait, wait wait. Are you saying that the universe has random mathematical constants? No way. That's crazy.
January 10, 200619 yr ever heard of phi, the divine ratio? its actually quite interesting. look it up, and see how frequently it appears in nature, despite not being the most mathematically efficient number. also referred to as gods building block. Fractals ?
January 10, 200619 yr ever heard of phi, the divine ratio? its actually quite interesting. look it up, and see how frequently it appears in nature, despite not being the most mathematically efficient number. also referred to as gods building block. lmao... you're gonna need a lot more than phi to be able to justify the existence of a God
January 10, 200619 yr ever heard of phi, the divine ratio? its actually quite interesting. look it up, and see how frequently it appears in nature, despite not being the most mathematically efficient number. also referred to as gods building block. Someone read The Golden Ratio..
January 10, 200619 yr justify? im not justifying the existence of a god, science is my religion. i just found it really weird.
January 10, 200619 yr Wow, the church of Satan is actually a good place to read, I think it actually is pretty good in my opinion. @Maggot - Are you actually a member of the Church of Satan? Good points: From 'The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth' 8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself. Soooo right. :D If only more people would act upon that. From 'The Nine Satanic Statements' 4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates That's such a good point, ingrates deserve nothing.
January 10, 200619 yr ever heard of phi, the divine ratio? its actually quite interesting. look it up, and see how frequently it appears in nature, despite not being the most mathematically efficient number. also referred to as gods building block. You think the Universe could exist the way it does if everything wasn't relative, regardless of if there is a God or not? This is a preposterous statement. And before you ask, yes I do understand about Phi, I have read up on it before and I believe it is there because that is simply the way our Universe is. By the way, acting intelligent on the internet because you read Angels and Demons by Dan Brown does NOT make you cool.
January 10, 200619 yr Thinking outside of the box is the way to approach this issue. No one is wrong with their opinion on how we came to be. I do believe that there is some sort of higher power though. Shit doesnt just come out of nowhere and create a fucking universe. For all we know we are our human race's own experiment in a jar..Prove this wrong please. It's not about proving things true, its about proving them wrong. If you cant, then you must accept it as a possible answer.
January 10, 200619 yr Thinking outside of the box is the way to approach this issue. No one is wrong with their opinion on how we came to be. I do believe that there is some sort of higher power though. Shit doesnt just come out of nowhere and create a fucking universe. For all we know we are our human race's own experiment in a jar..Prove this wrong please. It's not about proving things true, its about proving them wrong. If you cant, then you must accept it as a possible answer. Just because a theory is possible does not make it acceptable. Of course its possible that the universe is really the anus of some weird creature, but would this make an acceptable theory? Of course not. The problem comes in when you point out that the theory I jst described out has no less credibility than Intelligent Design. For a theory to be scientifically acceptable it has to be based off of facts and these facts need to form a solid foundation for the theory (can't have major flaws). The problem with Intelligent Design is that it is not based off of facts, so while yes it is possibly correct we have absolutely no reason to believe that it is correct.
January 15, 200619 yr ok i only read like 15 posts before giving up, so here's my theory of everything Is there a God? most likely, who started it all? And to those who say that God needed a creator too, did you consider the fact that God could exist outside of the dimension of time (whereas the universe clearly exists partially in it)? As far as religion goes (atheism is a religion too, since you profess faith in God NOT existing through the discoveries of science), if you're not forcing your views on anyone else or hurting anyone, more power to you. Now as far as the afterlife is concerned, i think that our consciousnesses are WAY too complex to be chalked up to that lump of yogurt in our heads. How could the brain create something to control it (consciousness) in the first place? Where in nature is there an example of something creating something else to control it? Nowadays science is reviving people who have been dead (no EKG etc) for over 5 minutes, and the near-death experience is becoming more and more common. If you want to seriously talk about near death experiences and scientific verification of the afterlife, i've come up with a little theory on my own. Take string theory, which posits that there are 11 dimensions in our universe (we currently exist in four, three of which are of space and one of time), and combine it with the "death flash" (click first result in my link) http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=%22death+flash&btnG=Search Our consciousness, transmitted in the necrotic radiation, goes into one or more of the 7 universes that we cannot percieve in our current living state, and we continue to exist. If you read all that, your medal is in the mail. :wow:
