NWA']I'd refute your stupid little psychology point but I can't understand your French typing.

 

OUI OUI?

 

 

Good arguement between you guys so far... however your just mocking him for not having perfect english. It's not the guys first language? I'd like to see you break out your 2nd language if you've got one. Then you can mock away!

Bonjour Dkay! Donne-moi ton foutre!

chubr0ck']Bonjour Dkay! Donne-moi ton foutre!

 

Oh oui, tiens, plein de foutre dans ta gueule !!! <3

DKay']Prove me wrong

 

 

 

You wouldn't know what i'm talking about if you couldn't understand it, you obviously just can't prove me wrong

是 是 ?

 

Repeat what you said, but in English this time and I'll prove you wrong.

Basically, it's about the retard killing the person you respect the most.

Since you think better means stronger, then the retard wouldn't be better than the other guy.

You said that if the retard outsmartered and overpowered the other person, then he indeed is better, but then better means something else, it means smarter and stronger.

You've already proven the fact that better could mean 2 different things, and isn't part of the objective reality, but is rather something intuitive, and has a different definition (if any) for different people, different cultures, different times, etc

I gave you a counter example to illustrate this : What if the retard kills the other person by outsmarting, let's say, his friends, and there was nothing he could do about it ?

 

PS : Knowledge : Points of unified reality in the mind.

 

Truth : The communicated representation of unified reality.

 

"We're better because.. " =/= truth as it isnt unified reality.

Good arguement between you guys so far... however your just mocking him for not having perfect english. It's not the guys first language? I'd like to see you break out your 2nd language if you've got one. Then you can mock away!

 

Except he doesn't need to use a 2nd language because the majority of this forum speaks english. That's like what's happening here in California though, all these fucking mexicans are taking over, and instead of making them learn english, WE have to learn spanish it's bullshit TBH.

DKay']Basically, it's about the retard killing the person you respect the most.

Since you think better means stronger, then the retard wouldn't be better than the other guy.

You said that if the retard outsmartered and overpowered the other person, then he indeed is better, but then better means something else, it means smarter and stronger.

You've already proven the fact that better could mean 2 different things, and isn't part of the objective reality, but is rather something intuitive, and has a different definition (if any) for different people, different cultures, different times, etc

I gave you a counter example to illustrate this : What if the retard kills the other person by outsmarting, let's say, his friends, and there was nothing he could do about it ?

 

Better has a very clear definition. If a retard kills anyone, he is better in some way. The fact that you can apply the word better to many different situations doesn't mean that it means something else, it means that it's an adjective.

i think http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=%5Bmyg0t%5DNWA&word2=%5Bmyg0t%5DDKay this clear states who won this argument.

i think http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=%5Bmyg0t%5DNWA&word2=%5Bmyg0t%5DDKay this clear states who won this argument.

heh

NWA']Better has a very clear definition. If a retard kills anyone' date=' he is better in some way. The fact that you can apply the word better to many different situations doesn't mean that it means something else, it means that it's an adjective.[/quote']

 

Explain this : "I" has a definition, right ? Still can you really define it ?

It is a metaphysical word, this is pure subjectivity. What's in the dictionary is ONE of an infinite number of definitions.

 

Also, if you look up definitions of such words, you'll always find, in the definition, other subjective words that needs to be defined, and their definition will also contain subjective words which will need definitions, and so on. This just proves you can't define them

 

NWA']If a retard kills anyone' date=' he is better in some way.[/quote']

So you admit there's different ways to be better, just like any country could be better than another country in some way, to use your own words

 

i think http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=%5Bmyg0t%5DNWA&word2=%5Bmyg0t%5DDKay this clear states who won this argument.

 

 

good argument based on strong facts, i have so been proven wrong

The russians outsmarted the americans. When the americans were in space they needed a pen that could write upside down, so they spent millions fo dollars(Well maybe not a million but i think it was close)to create this pen that can write upside down, you know what the russions did? they brought pencils.

DKay']Explain this : "I" has a definition, right ? Still can you really define it ?

It is a metaphysical word, this is pure subjectivity. What's in the dictionary is ONE of an infinite number of definitions.

 

 

 

 

good argument based on strong facts, i have so been proven wrong

 

 

 

You are both wrong/right. You are both having an unresolvable argument. Just agree to disagree.

DKay']Explain this : "I" has a definition, right ? Still can you really define it ?

It is a metaphysical word, this is pure subjectivity. What's in the dictionary is ONE of an infinite number of definitions.

 

Also, if you look up definitions of such words, you'll always find, in the definition, other subjective words that needs to be defined, and their definition will also contain subjective words which will need definitions, and so on. This just proves you can't define them

 

 

So you admit there's different ways to be better, just like any country could be better than another country in some way, to use your own words

 

 

 

 

good argument based on strong facts, i have so been proven wrong

 

Define better. If you can't, then I win this argument by default because you're just playing the "words are just thoughts lol" game. If you can, I win by default because you're confining yourself to a single definition which is hypocritical and counterintuitive to your entire argument.

ironic the the number of sophistical arguments pop up in a raging games forum

NWA']Define better. If you can't' date=' then I win this argument by default because you're just playing the "words are just thoughts lol" game. If you can, I win by default because you're confining yourself to a single definition which is hypocritical and counterintuitive to your entire argument.[/quote']

 

"Better's" definition is intuitive. It varies from one time to another, and from one person to another.

"To explain, requires the use of terms less abstruse than that which is to be explained, and such terms cannot always be found; for as nothing can be proved but by supposing something intuitively known, and evident without proof, so nothing can be defined but by the use of words too plain to admit a definition.

 

I'm confining myself into a single idea of the word "better", as there is only one. You misinterpreted my thoughts, i do believe there's an infinite number of definitions for this word.

Just like the idea of the word "table" is one, but there are many different tables, duh

DKay']"Better's" definition is intuitive. It varies from one time to another, and from one person to another.

"To explain, requires the use of terms less abstruse than that which is to be explained, and such terms cannot always be found; for as nothing can be proved but by supposing something intuitively known, and evident without proof, so nothing can be defined but by the use of words too plain to admit a definition.

 

I'm confining myself into a single idea of the word "better", as there is only one. You misinterpreted my thoughts, i do believe there's an infinite number of definitions for this word.

Just like the idea of the word "table" is one, but there are many different tables, duh

 

All tables fall under a definition. All things better fall under a definition. If you deny this, which you're doing, you're just playing the contradictory role that a Frenchman loves to play against an American.

 

I declare myself winner by default. Don't like it? Define better.

The russians outsmarted the americans. When the americans were in space they needed a pen that could write upside down, so they spent millions fo dollars(Well maybe not a million but i think it was close)to create this pen that can write upside down, you know what the russions did? they brought pencils.

/LOL

I'd like to thank NWA and Dkay for tonights arguement. You guys showed that there is actually an inteligenent type on these forums and not just kids running around posting "omgzz with teh pwntness". On behalf of Canada,

 

Thank you.

I thought that "Better" wasn't even a real word. lol Also America is not the best country, Though Canada was the best country, for 7 years in a row voted by the united nations, and you cannot define the best country just by thier military.

NWA']All tables fall under a definition. All things better fall under a definition. If you deny this, which you're doing, you're just playing the contradictory role that a Frenchman loves to play against an American.

 

I declare myself winner by default. Don't like it? Define better.

 

 

Everything can be defined better than everything else, therefore america can be defined as the best country, whereas any other country could be defined as the best, which is absurd

 

Better belongs to the sensible world and not the intelligible world, "We're better than.." is inappropriate, whereas "I find this country better than" may be the truth, you're the one being hypocritical, I consider I won

 

I'd like to thank NWA and Dkay for tonights arguement. You guys showed that there is actually an inteligenent type on these forums and not just kids running around posting "omgzz with teh pwntness". On behalf of Canada,

 

Thank you.

 

Well shit, no problem, it's not often i get to argue with chinese people about philosophy

 

 

Some closing words : Socrates said "I know I am intelligent, because I know that I know nothing", only argue on things you think are the truth. If you really believe you know everything *WINK NWA*, you in fact, are ignorant

DKay']Everything can be defined better than everything else, therefore america can be defined as the best country, whereas any other country could be defined as the best, which is absurd

 

Better belongs to the sensible world and not the intelligible world, "We're better than.." is inappropriate, whereas "I find this country better than" may be the truth, you're the one being hypocritical, I consider I won

 

 

 

Well shit, no problem, it's not often i get to argue with chinese people about philosophy

 

Better can be objectively defined in the cases where I use it. America has a better military. America has a better economy. America has a better standard of living. America has a better overall country. America is better.

 

You're arguing off emotions, which works great if you're a woman with large tits but doesn't get you much otherwise.

 

I win. Because I'm from the USA, and France is our bitch. I'm surprised you haven't walked out by now like your PM JACQUES CHIRAC would have.

I thought that "Better" wasn't even a real word. lol Also America is not the best country, Though Canada was the best country, for 7 years in a row voted by the united nations, and you cannot define the best country just by thier military.

woot...go canada

NWA'] America has a better military. America has a better economy. America has a better standard of living. America has a better overall country.

 

Define better military, better economy, and so on.

From someone else's point of view, better military could mean more skilled, or bigger, or with soldiers who have more powerful weapons, or with more experienced commanders, or with soldiers who can drink horse cum faster, (in which case we are better, teehee, i anticipated your joke)

 

Better can be objectively defined in the cases where I use it.

No, you're just interpreting it your own way, but it cannot be used otherwise, as it cannot be defined, just like i said

 

You

lose

DKay']Define better military, better economy, and so on.

From someone else's point of view, better military could mean more skilled, or bigger, or with soldiers who have more powerful weapons, or with more experienced commanders, or with soldiers who can drink horse cum faster, (in which case we are better, teehee, i anticipated your joke)

 

 

No, you're just interpreting it your own way

 

You

lose

 

Better military is whoever can kill the most people the fastest. There is no other definition.

 

There's better marksman, soldier, pilot, commander, etc. None of these have any bearing on a better military in the modern world.

NWA']Better military is whoever can kill the most people the fastest. There is no other definition.

 

There's better marksman, soldier, pilot, commander, etc. None of these have any bearing on a better military in the modern world.

 

Why wouldn't there be other definitions ? Just because the definition of "better military" seems the same for most people, doesn't mean it is for everybody.

The only things you can define, are those who are part of the objective reality. An atom is an atom, and it's definition is the truth (however the idea of an atom can vary from one person to another, and there is no definition of the idea of an atom, is there).

Things that are part of the sensible worlds cannot be defined as they are ONLY ideas. Can you define beautiful for example ?

Ideas are non substantial, you just have accepted a definition of better because it is more confortable for your small brain, just like people have accepted a particular definition of the world beautiful and thus, have different standards "id hit it" "i wouldnt"