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Or blow up the rock with rockets?

 

It's crack. Ok? geez grow up we are talking about rocks aka crack you fgt.

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If theres no god of any kind then how did the universe begin?

 

You have to take into consideration that we, the life on earth very well may just be an experiment conducted by ourselves. Say a scientist discovered a way to create a "mach" earth in a fishtank that resembles our reality. hmm??. BTW religion is just a way of keeping order, or was 2000 years ago. I will not believe in religion until I have proof.

yeah, the whole religion thing pisses me off.

 

how could you possibly believe something thats word of mouth, and with no proof whatsoever.

 

its a nice dream, but i dont buy it.

 

@ Eseks: the universe is expanding?

 

link me to an article..i always thought the universe was infinate :happysad:

Sobeit;368329']yeah, the whole religion thing pisses me off.

 

how could you possibly believe something thats word of mouth, and with no proof whatsoever.

 

its a nice dream, but i dont buy it.

 

@ Eseks: the universe is expanding?

 

link me to an article..i always thought the universe was infinate :happysad:

 

Well it's a bit controversial subject acctually, depends what you mean by universe.

 

http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n0310/10expansion/

http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/Cyberia/Cosmos/ExpandUni.html

http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr162/lect/cosmology/expansion.html

http://cas.sdss.org/dr5/en/astro/universe/universe.asp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable_universe

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/universe_soccer_031008.html

 

"The most important result of physical cosmology, the understanding that the universe is expanding, is derived from redshift observations and quantified by Hubble's Law. Extrapolating this expansion back in time, one approaches a gravitational singularity, a rather abstract mathematical concept, which may or may not correspond to reality. This gives rise to the Big Bang theory, the dominant model in cosmology today. The age of the universe from the time of the Big Bang, was estimated to be about 13.7 billion (13.7 × 109) years, with a margin of error of about 1 % (± 200 million years), according to NASA's WMAP (Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe). Other methods of estimating the age of the universe give different ages with a range from 11 billion to 20 billion.[1] Most of the estimates cluster in the 13-15 billion year range."

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"A fundamental aspect of the Big Bang can be seen today in the observation that the farther away from us galaxies are, the faster they move away from us. It can also be seen in the cosmic microwave background radiation which is the much-attenuated radiation that originated soon after the Big Bang. This background radiation is remarkably uniform in all directions, which cosmologists have attempted to explain by an early period of inflationary expansion following the Big Bang."

 

"Depending on the average density of matter and energy in the universe, it will either keep on expanding forever or it will be gravitationally slowed down and will eventually collapse back on itself in a "Big Crunch". Currently the evidence suggests not only that there is insufficient mass/energy to cause a recollapse, but that the expansion of the universe seems to be accelerating and will accelerate for eternity (see accelerating universe). Other ideas of the fate of our universe include the Big Rip, the Big Freeze, and Heat death of the universe theory. For a more detailed discussion of other theories, see the ultimate fate of the universe."

 

- Wikipedia

 

Google if you want more.

 

As a side note, one thing people here seem to forget is that religion is based on faith, not facts that it can be proven. Intelligent Design doesn't count, just a political agenda to get christianity taught as science in schools.

 

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loveismydesiiire;368051']THE BIG BANG WAS WHEN NOAH WAS DOING A LIL SIXTYNINER ON GODS ASSHOLE AND HE EXPLODED SOME DIAHORIA IN HIS FACE WHICH CREATED THE UNIVERSE.

 

ftw.

Hahahaha OK wait lemme get this straight, I assumed this was just sarcasm at first but there's too many of you saying 'I'm a Christian'.

 

You believe there's an omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient God yet you spend time on a forum for a group which is dedicated to ruining people's fun, which isn't exactly the sort of thing such a God would be pleased with. You're all fucking idiots.

Hahahaha OK wait lemme get this straight, I assumed this was just sarcasm at first but there's too many of you saying 'I'm a Christian'.

 

You believe there's an omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient God yet you spend time on a forum for a group which is dedicated to ruining people's fun, which isn't exactly the sort of thing such a God would be pleased with. You're all fucking idiots.

 

I can't see why a christian couldn't be a part of an internet group thats objective is to ruin other people fun. If you're a Roman Catholic you could just confess before you die. And besides, I can't find a commandment against pissing people off over the internet. And frankly I don't really care about that either, I don't belive in god myself anyways.

 

And blablabla, you can't (yet) prove the existence of god nor the non-existence of god anyways, no point in arguing about that. Go to a christian forum with your arguments, they'll have a whole fucking bible just with counter-arguments.

 

Also, I think your cocky attitude is silly and stupid. Especially when you aren't smarter than anyone else here.

I can't see why a christian couldn't be a part of an internet group thats objective is to ruin other people fun. If you're a Roman Catholic you could just confess before you die. And besides, I can't find a commandment against pissing people off over the internet. And frankly I don't really care about that either, I don't belive in god myself anyways.

 

And blablabla, you can't (yet) prove the existence of god nor the non-existence of god anyways, no point in arguing about that. Go to a christian forum with your arguments, they'll have a whole fucking bible just with counter-arguments.

 

Also, I think your cocky attitude is silly and stupid. Especially when you aren't smarter than anyone else here.

 

So you think that God would think it's OK that you piss people off with the intent of confessing your sins right after? The argument is flawed, basically you can't claim to be a Christian and then piss people off on purpose, it goes against what Christianity stands for.

 

I am pretty sure I'm smarter than most people here and no I won't get into an argument with you about who has a higher IQ.

makes more sense than HAI IKM GOD NAD IKM GUNNA MAKE UJNIVERES BCUJZ IKM BORED OF PLYAING pLANET TYOCOON LLOLOOLOL

 

 

Well, both assume that something was created from nothing.

 

Also, my best bet is also with the Mayans, isn't it like March something 2012?

So you think that God would think it's OK that you piss people off with the intent of confessing your sins right after? The argument is flawed, basically you can't claim to be a Christian and then piss people off on purpose, it goes against what Christianity stands for.

I am pretty sure I'm smarter than most people here and no I won't get into an argument with you about who has a higher IQ.

 

Well, you make a point I guess, my statement was rather flawed when I think about it. Although AFAIK Protestants belive that salvation can be achived with faith alone.

 

Judging by your posts, then no, you're not smarter than most people here. If you really would be, as you claim, you would be smart enough to understand that such an attitude as you have only makes you look like the exact opposite. An attitude like that is very ignorant. An actually intelligent/smart person would not make such a childish claim.

 

IQ doesn't measure all elements of intelligence, only your cognitive ability. It would be pointless to argue about who has the higher IQ because:

a) This is the internet b) Even if you hypothetically would have a higher IQ, it wouldn't prove you actually are more intelligent in the words full meaning, than anyone else. Personally I don't think intelligence is that important anyways.

 

Well, both assume that something was created from nothing.

 

Also, my best bet is also with the Mayans, isn't it like March something 2012?

 

Oh so true, but I prefer a theory that trys to find out about our existance rather than blindly relying on something.

 

More about the Mayans: http://www.exitmundi.nl/Maya.htm.

Oh so true, but I prefer a theory that trys to find out about our existance rather than blindly relying on something.

 

More about the Mayans: http://www.exitmundi.nl/Maya.htm.

 

/nod

 

 

Also, interesting link. Personaly, I think that Earth will be destroyed long before humans go extinct, and I don't think it will be in our lifetime. Now, there is a good chance of Nuclear war that ends up destroying a lot of inhabitable places, posibly that is what the Mayans were refering too, but still, the power of suggestion clouds everyone's vision.

"Physicists do not widely agree on what happened before this, although general relativity predicts a gravitational singularity (for reporting on some of the more notable speculation on this issue, see cosmogony)." - Wikipedia

 

Props for quoting wikipedia whereas most people just take down their articles word for word and try to make them sounds like their own ideas. I think you would have been better off giving me a link to cosmgony as broad a subject of it is. Also my question is one that you really cant answer in this day and age at least which leads me to believe that there is a god of some sort.

 

 

 

Science can't as far as i know prove that yet but that doesn't mean that there isn't a logical explanation for it.

 

Im not sure what that had to do with your quote of me but Im sure you meant well.

Us jews have to rebuild our kingdom in iseral for the world to end. Dont worry, it will be awhile.
Well, you make a point I guess, my statement was rather flawed when I think about it. Although AFAIK Protestants belive that salvation can be achived with faith alone.

 

Judging by your posts, then no, you're not smarter than most people here. If you really would be, as you claim, you would be smart enough to understand that such an attitude as you have only makes you look like the exact opposite. An attitude like that is very ignorant. An actually intelligent/smart person would not make such a childish claim.

 

IQ doesn't measure all elements of intelligence, only your cognitive ability. It would be pointless to argue about who has the higher IQ because:

a) This is the internet b) Even if you hypothetically would have a higher IQ, it wouldn't prove you actually are more intelligent in the words full meaning, than anyone else. Personally I don't think intelligence is that important anyways.

 

Don't try to prove me wrong like you're especially intelligent and don't base my intelligence on the posts I make here. Thanks.

I REJECT YOUR REALITY AND SUBSTITUE MY OWN.

 

Lol, Adam Savage...

 

Im not sure what that had to do with your quote of me but Im sure you meant well.

 

I was just referring to your question about from where all the matter came from in the first place.

 

Don't try to prove me wrong like you're especially intelligent and don't base my intelligence on the posts I make here. Thanks.

 

I've never claimed to be intelligent, I don't care about that. I'm just using the same logic as you, when you judge other people by their posts to claim that your smarter than most people here.

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