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i rember there was a thread with a link to some guy who got shot in the ehad with a 50 cal.... does anyone have that link? i cant seem to find the thread
A real .50 cal doesn't need to hit you to rip you apart as long as you are within 1 metre (approx. 3 feet)
A real .50 cal doesn't need to hit you to rip you apart as long as you are within 1 metre (approx. 3 feet)

 

AND WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS SMARTYPANTS?

NWA;372366']AND WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS SMARTYPANTS?

 

Would you like "first-hand" investigation and experience of the impact of a projectile capable of spalsh damage which is the .50 cal, asian ?

Would you like "first-hand" investigation and experience of the impact of a projectile capable of spalsh damage which is the .50 cal, asian ?

 

splash damage? rofl what do you think this is warcraft 3?

A real .50 cal doesn't need to hit you to rip you apart as long as you are within 1 metre (approx. 3 feet)

i can smell the stupid from this one!

I think it's more like 3 inches instead of 3 feet. Because I remember that one of my physics teacher said that the bullet itself does not actually cause much internal damage, it's the rotational force that lacerates your internal organs. I don't really know the proper term for the rotational force, but it's those rings you see behind the projectile if you ever watch it in slow motion. (Recall the slow motion scene from the Matrix where Neo dodges Mr. Anderson's bullets) Well the rotational force from the projectile of a 50. caliber is comparable to that of a miniature canon which can definitely shred your flesh within 3 inches.

 

BTW, according the the US Army manual, the 50. caliber sniper rifle is not intended for human targets. It's an anti-material rifle used to shoot land mines, IEDs, vehicles and etc.

BTW, according the the US Army manual, the 50. caliber sniper rifle is not intended for human targets. It's an anti-material rifle used to shoot land mines, IEDs, vehicles and etc.

 

Which is probably why the bullets are so big and will rip people in half. :D

v0dka;372346']A real .50 cal is not for use against fleshy targets' date=' except at long range or against body armor.[/quote']

 

 

accidents do happen tho :naughtyd:

I think it's more like 3 inches instead of 3 feet. Because I remember that one of my physics teacher said that the bullet itself does not actually cause much internal damage, it's the rotational force that lacerates your internal organs. I don't really know the proper term for the rotational force, but it's those rings you see behind the projectile if you ever watch it in slow motion. (Recall the slow motion scene from the Matrix where Neo dodges Mr. Anderson's bullets) Well the rotational force from the projectile of a 50. caliber is comparable to that of a miniature canon which can definitely shred your flesh within 3 inches.

 

BTW, according the the US Army manual, the 50. caliber sniper rifle is not intended for human targets. It's an anti-material rifle used to shoot land mines, IEDs, vehicles and etc.

 

lol @ rotational force

 

Bullets rotate to become more aerodynamic. Imparting a spin on a projectile actually decreases its effective energy on impact. However, some projectiles are etched and the spin imparts the ability to burrow through material that can't be shattered or cleaved easiliy. Bullets are not one of these projectiles usually.

 

The destructive force behind the .50 is from the kinetic energy that the bullet has on impact. It's not really useful against human targets because it goes right through most of them which is great if you're trying to mow down people in a line, but pretty bad if you're trying to not kill civilians. If you survive a shot from a .50 then you probably won't get too fucked up and most of the injury will heal. The bullet travels through you too fast to tumble effectively inside a human body.

 

The real damage from bullets is from the energy imparted onto the target. Most bullets for killing things are designed to maximize this by not actually going all the way through a target. What you want to happen is for the bullet to impart all of its energy into the target instea of just blast through the guy. The way to do this that most manufacturers use is called tumbling where the bullet begins rotating about a centerline axis on impact. Basically, the bullet goes from a -- position to a | inside your body. This is also where the major damage comes from in bullet wounds. If a bullet doesn't hit one of your major organs you won't die from it (maybe shock, but it's unlikely) and so making the bullet tumble effectively inside the target body is the easiest way to ensure a kill or an injury.

There are lots of parts of your body that if hit by a bullet will kill you:

al kinds of nerves and veins, spine, brain, hart etc etc and if a bullet hits bone

it can rip a bigger wound making the chance bleeding to death bigger..

captain obvious.

 

i have seen some pretty neat videos of .50's ripping limbs off of people, idk about near misses ripping your head off and whatnot.

 

/has never fired a .50 cal rifle so i wont pretend to be an expert on it

NWA;372916']lol @ rotational force

 

Bullets rotate to become more aerodynamic. Imparting a spin on a projectile actually decreases its effective energy on impact. However, some projectiles are etched and the spin imparts the ability to burrow through material that can't be shattered or cleaved easiliy. Bullets are not one of these projectiles usually.

 

The destructive force behind the .50 is from the kinetic energy that the bullet has on impact. It's not really useful against human targets because it goes right through most of them which is great if you're trying to mow down people in a line, but pretty bad if you're trying to not kill civilians. If you survive a shot from a .50 then you probably won't get too fucked up and most of the injury will heal. The bullet travels through you too fast to tumble effectively inside a human body.

 

The real damage from bullets is from the energy imparted onto the target. Most bullets for killing things are designed to maximize this by not actually going all the way through a target. What you want to happen is for the bullet to impart all of its energy into the target instea of just blast through the guy. The way to do this that most manufacturers use is called tumbling where the bullet begins rotating about a centerline axis on impact. Basically, the bullet goes from a -- position to a | inside your body. This is also where the major damage comes from in bullet wounds. If a bullet doesn't hit one of your major organs you won't die from it (maybe shock, but it's unlikely) and so making the bullet tumble effectively inside the target body is the easiest way to ensure a kill or an injury.

 

 

Negative, I'm not talking about the traditional kinetic energy . Every moving projectile produces damage out of kinetic energy but that does not explain why the 50. cal would ripe your flesh within 3 inches. Why the 50. caliber sniper rifle does this is that unlike the conventional projectile firearms, it creates a much stronger air pressure behind the projectile (Dismiss my prior poor diction usage of "rotational force") Any projectile traveling in a high velocity compresses air in front and leave empty air behind it that causes surrounding air rush in to fill the space. It's that force caused by the surround air that actually rips your flesh. (Just think of the shockwave phenomenon or the sonic boom) Ask any service member who's operated a 50 cal and he will concur that it will ripe your flesh within 3 inches.

 

BTW, the real reason why it's not intended for human targets is because the weapon is considered unethical to be used against fleshy targets not because it's ineffective.

 

If you survive a shot from a .50 then you probably won't get too fucked up and most of the injury will heal. The bullet travels through you too fast to tumble effectively inside a human body.

Let me guess, State University? I'm no engineering major but I can swear on my unborn child that a 50 cal will fuck you up.

i rember there was a thread with a link to some guy who got shot in the ehad with a 50 cal.... does anyone have that link? i cant seem to find the thread

 

not the head, but I think this image pretty much speaks for itself.

 

http://www.tinymosquito.com/images/mosquitobite.jpg

 

powerful stuff

I guess 50 cal was not enough.

 

So now they have these 20mm take down rifles.

 

 

 

http://www.anzioironworks.com/20incase1.jpg

 

 

 

http://www.anzioironworks.com/20mmbipod.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

From left to right: .223, .338 lapua, 50BMG, 20MM Vulcan

http://www.anzioironworks.com/images/bulletsizes.jpg

Negative, I'm not talking about the traditional kinetic energy . Every moving projectile produces damage out of kinetic energy but that does not explain why the 50. cal would ripe your flesh within 3 inches. Why the 50. caliber sniper rifle does this is that unlike the conventional projectile firearms, it creates a much stronger air pressure behind the projectile (Dismiss my prior poor diction usage of "rotational force") Any projectile traveling in a high velocity compresses air in front and leave empty air behind it that causes surrounding air rush in to fill the space. It's that force caused by the surround air that actually rips your flesh. (Just think of the shockwave phenomenon or the sonic boom) Ask any service member who's operated a 50 cal and he will concur that it will ripe your flesh within 3 inches.

 

BTW, the real reason why it's not intended for human targets is because the weapon is considered unethical to be used against fleshy targets not because it's ineffective.

 

Any bullet that gets close enough can rip your flesh off. That's a fact of aerodynamics. Duh. What you said is that rotational force is what lacerates your internal organs. Even if you meant the air pressure is the thing that lacerates your organs, you'd be wrong. It's been extensively written about that damage caused by pressures create temporary wound cavities that heal to almost 100% if treated properly. The real damage from a bullet comes from tumbling, like I said before.

 

Also, if you bothered to read my post you'd see that I never disputed it being effective. The .50 will clearly kill a person if you hit someone in the torso or head or even near the torso limbs, but the reason it is considered "unethical" is because A) if you miss the torso/head the guy is crippled for life and B) even if the bullet strikes someone in the skull it's still going to go straight through it and keep going.

 

Let me guess, State University? I'm no engineering major but I can swear on my unborn child that a 50 cal will fuck you up.

 

I am an engineering major, and I can tell you that a .50 striking you on a place that isn't in your torso or head will probably not kill you. You'll probably lose a limb or never have it function again, but I ouldn't call that too fucked up compared to being dead. This of course has nothing to do with engineering, so I don't know why you'd say anything about engineering.

GunDream you are an idiot. I knew you were retarded when you mentioned the "bullet rings" from the matrix.

 

A .50 cal round does more damage than a lower caliber round not because of some special ballistics that apply only to 1/2 inch projectiles, but because its a big fucking round going really fucking fast. This is why it's not typcally used against personnel - it's too powerful. As NWA pointed out, the round overpenetrates, going right through a person and out the other side.

By the way, a bunch of soldiers were crying in Iraq because the shitty small NATO rounds they shoot don't tumble fast enough inside the skinny starving insurgents and so you could shoot a dunecoon and the bullet would go right through him and not knock him on his ass like it was supposed to.

 

LOLOL

They need to make a gun that shoots wasps. Cause wasp stings hurt like shit.

 

the itching bugs me more than the sting

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