February 11, 200421 yr NWA'] Do you see it? Hold down shift and hit 4. that line made reading all that stuff worth it. i can't stop laughing.
February 11, 200421 yr I read it to see how much I can understand. It is funny to see them saying something really stupid in one thread, then bust out their little intelligence to try and impress people in the other. I am talking more about nwa, look at his sig ffs. Don't act like you don't like incest you little freak. I have decided to post one of SX's favorite e-novels involving incestuous relationships between mother and son! Test Subject Mom Some peoplemight call me perverse, twisted, or maybe even sick. As I see it though I'm a genius. A twenty-year-old Einstein in my own right. You see about two weeks ago, while tinkering with some chemicals,I came across a rather unique formula. It would instantly turn any normal human into a slave in seconds. At first they might struggle, but in the endthey'd have to submit to fate. Whenthat point came their lives would forever be one of servitude. Imagine the power such a potion could have. Now of course Ihad a few options when I first discovered it. I could sell it for a few million dollars, and live rich. Maybe they'd use it to transform criminalsinto normal citizens, or transform enemy countries into sheep. On the other hand I could use it to controlthe masses myself. How hard would ithave been to become president or king? In the end though I decided all I really wanted was to get laid. I'd use the potion to turn women into sexslaves, and my first target would be my own mother. Ok, you'reprobably saying, "Why the hell would anyone want that?" Just give me a second to explain. You see my mom is fucking hot! Sure she's forty-two, but she still has thebody of a woman half her age. Not tomention that my father, before he passed on, had paid for her to get a nicehefty set of tits. Yep, I was in lovewith her. Sometimes I'd find her dirtyundies, and use them to help me jerk off. Just knowing that they had been rubbing against her hot cunt all day wasenough to get me off in no time. Othertimes I'd just watch her around the house. Mom never thought much of wearing skimpy shirts that showed off her titsaround me. Then again why would shethink that I'd think that way? Maybe Iam a pervert. Well to make along story short I slipped the potion into her coffee this morning before sheleft for work. By the time she getshome it should already be taking effect. She'll be open to my commands, and with a few heavier doses she'll soonbe nothing more than my toy... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Bobby I'm homesweetie," she called out as she usually does. Even fully dressed in her business suit mom's so damn sexy. The way her short gray skirt clings ever sonicely to her tight ass. How her titspress against the delicate white fabric of her blouse. Even how her legs shine from the lighthitting her silken panty hose. It'shard to resist just leaping over and fucking her brains out right now. Well it's timeto put this to the test, "Hey mom. Boyyou look really hot. Maybe you shouldcome over here and cool off by the fan with me." For a moment she just sort of looked at me, as if what I said wassomehow confusing or something. Thenshe did it. She walked right on over,and sat down on the couch with me. Iknew I'd have to get more serious, "It's nice to relax like this isn't it? Maybe if you slipped off that heavy blouseyou'd be cooler." Here it was, the bigtest. "That soundsnice," she said expressing no emotion. Slowly she unbuttoned the blouse, and pulled it from her body. My dick almost leapt from my pants as hergorgeous tits bounced out at me, only confined by that damn bra. They were more beautiful than I had everimagined. More importantly it worked! "Mom if youstripped to your panties and bra you'd be cool fast. Doesn't that sound good?" The responsewas faster this time. "Yes that wouldbe nice," she said while she began to strip. I watched in delight as mom stood and removed almost everything. When she was down to her panties she satback down, staring off into space like a zombie. Since I knewthe potion was successful it was time to move on, "Ok mom, when I snap myfingers you'll return to normal. Exceptfrom now on you will feel very comfortable around me. You won't mind prancing around in your undies and bra. In fact you won't even mind being nakedaround me. If I touch you in a sexualway you'll be very aroused, and want to play a little." I raised my hand, and snapped. She shook herhead as she came out of the trance, "Oh my... I must have dosed off. It's solate. I should start supper." It was amazing. She really had no idea about what had happened. Slowly Ireached over to her, and placed my hand on her soft thigh. "I'm not really hungry mom. Why don't youjust take a nice hot shower, and go to bed. You could use some rest." Imoved my hand higher up her leg so that my fingers were grazing herpanties. She didn't make a move to stopme. Feeling a little braver I slid myfinger under her panties, and began to play with her skin. "Bobby," shelaughed, "that tickles sweetie. I haveto go take a shower, we can play later." When she stood I gave her a nice slap across the ass. She just giggled a little and kept ongoing. I couldn't believe it. She loved this! My own mother was letting me touch her. This potion was great! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I gave mom afew minutes in the bathroom, just enough time for her to strip and fill thetub, before I followed after her. Atfirst I opened the door just slightly, so I could have a peak in. Since this was the first time that I'd eversee my mother naked I was rather excited. It was just as I had hoped. Momwas already lounged out in the tub washing her long legs. Sucking up my courage I pushed the dooropen, and walked right on in. She didlittle more than give me a quick smile. My order had worked she had no problem with me seeing her this way. "Hi sweetie,did you need to use the bathroom? Idon't mind," she said ever so sweetly. I returned her smile, and sat on the edge of the tub to watch. My dick ached at the site of her barebody. Those damn pink nipples werepractically begging for me to taste them. It was like torture. "Mom, want meto help you wash?" She smirked atme, "Grab a wash cloth." Damn this wassweet. I quickly grabbed one, and wentto work. Starting of course at herchest. Even through the heavy cloth herplump tits felt so great. Mom justmoaned a little as I ever so delicately rubbed her erect nipples. She'd have to forgive me if my fingers alsomade occasional contact with her skin. Ever so slowly I worked further down. Moving over her washboard stomach, and down to her shaven cunt. Of course she made no move to stop me. Her legs movedapart as I pushed my hand between her legs. I was only barely using the cloth at all now, instead just working myfingers into every spot available. Acouple of my fingers had even pressed over her pink clit. After a few seconds I had my entire handworking her, free of the cloth. Finallymom had had enough, "Mmm... That feels sogreat honey, but I need to get to bed." Damn it, why hadn't I programmed her to be more willing? Oh well, we could only go so far in one day. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I spent all daywaiting rather impatiently for mom to get out of work the next day. After the second dose I had given her thismorning she'd be ripe and willing for some more programming today. "Bobby I'm home," I heard her call out. Immediately I ran to her from my room. From the dazed look in her eyes she wasalready under the potions effect. "Welcome homemom. Why don't you take off all ofthose heavy clothes, and join me on the couch," I commanded. She quickly obeyed. Today she was wearing the sexiest set of redlace panties that were driving me wild. I had seen them before in her drawer, and had always wondered how they'dlook on her gorgeous body. Now I had myanswer. No time to waste, "Mom when Isnap my fingers you will return to normal. However from this point on you will only find yourself attracted tome. All other men are worthless in youreyes. You'll fantasize about my body,and desire my touch. When ever you getthe chance you'll want me touching you in someway." I had considered ordering her to want to fuck me, but it wasstill too soon. As with before I raisedmy hand and did a quick snap. Again mom cameout of the trance seeming a little dizzy. All of this brain washing must have been pretty disorienting. After all, the brain had to process all ofthese new orders so quickly. "Oh... I feel a little ditsy all of the sudden,"she turned to me, "Bobby I'm a little sore, could you rub my back?"
February 11, 200421 yr "Suremom." I didn't waste more than a secondon her back. My arms slipped aroundher, grabbing those perfect tits, and pulling her onto my lap. Mom giggled like a schoolgirl while Isqueezed her like crazy. She evenpulled down her bra giving me access to her hard nipples. I could feel my dick hardening, and pressinginto her pantied ass. While one handcontinued to massage her tits, the other slipped down into her panties. This time she was far more willing to allowme to play. Using my index finger, Ipushed into her wet cunt. I could neverput how I felt at that moment into words. To have my own mother allowing me to finger fuck her. Hell this was practically rape, and she hadno objections. I could feelher becoming really wet, and her moans were so damn hot. Two more of my fingers moved in to join inon the fuck. Still, I continued totease her nipples in my other hand. Momwas really getting off, as was I. I hadprobably came in my pants ten times now. "Oh... Oh... Mmm... Bobby... Please..." she could hardly speak. The effects of the potion must haveincreased her sexual stimulus. Herpanties were practically dripping from her sweet juices. Finally she let out a long deep moan, andcollapsed back onto me. She had herorgasm. My own mother just got off fromme fingering her! After all ofthat she was pretty tired, so she was off to bed. I didn't even ask for permission before I stripped, and lay downnext to her. My hard dick was pokingthrough the front of my boxers. Causingit to rub against her back when I got up against her, but she didn't say athing. She just lay there silent andsatisfied. We fell asleep in eachother's arms. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today was theday. The final dose had been given, andfrom this point on mom would forever be mine. I had been considering all day long if I should go through withthis. After all she'd never againreally be my mother. Instead of aloving parent I'd have a sex slave. Awoman who could never feel any real emotion unless told to. Yes this was wrong, but in another way itwas so damn right. Mom was gettingplenty of sexual satisfaction, and I would be too. So wasn't it enough that we were happy? It would have to be. For the firsttime in almost ten years mom didn't call out to me when she came home. Instead she just planted a sexy kiss upon mylips. It was a little odd, but I'm notcomplaining. This time I didn't evenhave to tell her what to do. Shestripped down, and sat on the couch awaiting my orders. I was a little shocked to see that momhadn't even bothered to wear panties today. Wonder how many heads that fine ass would turn at her work. "Mom when Isnap my fingers you will return to normal. However from this point on you will want nothing more in your life thanto keep me happy. The only way you'llknow to do this is to have sex. Anytime that you aren't busy working, cooking, or cleaning you'll desire tosexually please me. Just the sight ofmy dick will cause you to orgasm. Inaddition to this you will obey me at all times. To not obey me will cause intense pain," I wondered if that wasgoing a little over board. Oh well, shewouldn't be able to disobey me anyway. Slowly I raised my hand, and gave the final snap. For the lasttime mom awoke into a dizzy spell. Shedidn't say a word. Perhaps she couldn'tsince I hadn't told her to. "Mom," noit didn't seem right to call her that, "Laura would you like to give me a blowjob?" "Oh yes! Please let me," she sounded so excited. Before I could move she was on her kneesbefore me, unzipping my fly. As my harddick came free she moaned wildly. Icould see liquid dropping from her cunt. She must have taken me literally when I said to orgasm at the sight ofmy cock. It almost made me laugh. Her warm redlips surrounded the head of my dick. Icould feel her tongue tasting my manhood while the cock was pressed furtherdown her throat. Damn this felt sogood. I could see why dad was so fondof her. Laura worked my cock like apro, letting only so much in at a time so that she could lick every squareinch. In no time at all she had myentire eight inches inside of her, happily sucking on my cock like no womanever had. She moved her hands to myswollen balls to squeeze my salty cum from them. I could tell that she really wanted this, but I had otherplans. "No Laura, let me cum inside ofyou," I said between my heavy moans. Doing as told,she pulled herself off from my dick, and turned around to offer me her horny cunt. It was swollen with juices, and hot withdesire. My own cock was harder than ithad ever been. Never before had Iwanted something so damn much. Laurabraced herself against the arm of the couch as I drove my cock hard intoher. She immediately let out a longdeep moan in response. She practicallyburst with juices from the push. Thepotion had taken her sexual responses to the extreme. As I pushed inand out of her tight cunt over and over my hands moved to her waist, where Igrabbed hard onto her soft cheeks. Rushafter rush of pleasure surged through my body. She instinctively swayed her hips, driving hard against my groin. "Oh damn," I yelled aloud as the first jetof pre-cum burst from my dick. For thenext few moments I must have released a gallon of that hot juice deep intoher. Laura's own orgasm had yet tostop. For as long as I was within hershe couldn't stop. Completely exhaustedI pulled out of her, and fell onto the couch. She was for more tired than me, as she fell onto the floor beforeme. Though she had passed out I couldtell how she felt. That little smile onher face said it all. After mom wokeup we enjoyed a nice bath together. Ithad been years since she had last washed me, it was very calming to have her doit again. We also had one more goodshag before I called it a night. Looking at her, as she slept so peacefully full of my seed a smile cameto my face. This was the woman who Iwould share my bed with everyday, and my life. Thank god for that potion.
February 11, 200421 yr NWA'] Writing code for a virus isn't hard, even sp0rk can do it. The fact that these people go to the NYTimes in order to self-glorify theirself is proof that they, indeed, have no friends. Oh? you never mentioned sp0rk? As for you saying "you just pay someone to do it"...from another post regarding progging, where you said "If I need something coded, I just hire a programmer to do it"...really want me to dig up the post for an exact quote? As far as the McD's quote, what I meant by it, as you KNOW, is that the skill he has that I don't is not one I ever see any "need" for...there is no conceivable point where I'll HAVE to hire someone to do it for me, nor is there a point where the knowledge on how to run a deep fat frier (or how to differentiate between a "good" cook with one and a lousy coo with one will be important to me)...however, an HVAC qualified repairman knows things needed to do shit I DO consider important to my comfort (i.e. how to fix the goddamned air conditioning in summer), which I DON'T know...therefore, I won't chance pissing one off...because I can't tell if he did a halfassed job or a good job until the fuckign thing breaks again AFTER I've paid for his services. NWA']These people are losers because of their superior attitudes and inferior intellects usually. Any idiot with the drive can do the shit these people do and usually in half the time. Most "viral coders" are fucking idiots in everything except coding because they've never spent the time it takes to build up skills besides coding. True, in many cases, as far as skill learning...however, unless YOU can do it, don't go thinking you can guage the intelligence and creativity required to do it well...it's not as easy as you seem to think. I'll admit most virii are ripped off code, and the incarnations we usually FIND are scriptkiddy level shit..but a good virii IS both a nice bit of original code (usually) AND a pretty good example of creative thinking (in order to avoid detection as long as possible), as well as being a result of dedicated self-motivated learning and study. As for the tecnical difference betwenn "malware" and "virus"... in "techspeak", "malware" pretty much means ANY destructive program, be it virus, worm, or a utility that unexpectedly formats a drive or deletes regkeys when the end user clicks it...pretty much a blanket term for "nasty software" started by programmers who make a distinction between "virii" (self replicating software, with or without destructive "payloads"), "worms" (usually applied to programs which don't replicate on the user machine, but DO spread themselves, and/or use the infected machine to attack other machines), or just plain destructive programs that do neither (your typical "trojan" isn't any sort of virus or worm...it's simply a client/server program not far removed from windows networking or telnet...but the "victim" isn't supposed to know they've got it) NWA']Programmers make money. People that code virii don't. That's the difference. Do you see it? Hold down shift and hit 4. You can have all the drive in the world to learn 6+ years of "college level" shit in the world but it doesn't change the fact that if you cram that into less than 4 years then you're a social outcast that isn't making any money from what you do. Many viral coders are either underage to GET into decent programming jobs, or don't have the "formal" education to land a decent progging job...half the anger at the "system" which causes alot of them to write destructive programs is the very fact that they can DEMONSTRATE their ability to do a better progging job than many professionals out there, but can't land a "productive" job, due to lack of "formal" credits, or because what formal education they have isn't from as prestigous a school as other applicants. (Basically, a company will hire a mook with a B.S. in comp sci from MIT, despite his complete demonstrated lack of creative thinking, and his accum GPA of 1.9 before they'll hire a kid who minored in comp sci at KSU with a 4.0, even if the aggie kid had a 4.0, and has a portfolio or original and useful "small" programs he did just to see if he could do a better program than the "common" one (look into the guy who coded Eudora e-mail client...it's named for the town his school was in, in KS...he programmed a superior e-mail client wile still in college, but couldn't get a job after graduating, despite an AMAZING GPA, and proof of talent) I can't say I nesseccarily agree with the methods, but I can completely understand the anger at KNOWING you're better than most of the working programmers out there, but can't land a damned job doing what you love, for whatever reason.
February 12, 200421 yr PsychoBud']Oh? you never mentioned sp0rk? As for you saying "you just pay someone to do it"...from another post regarding progging, where you said "If I need something coded, I just hire a programmer to do it"...really want me to dig up the post for an exact quote? Yes, I do. In fact, I believe what I said was "if I need something coded I tell some comp. sci. idiot to do it for me." PsychoBud']As far as the McD's quote' date=' what I meant by it, as you KNOW, is that the skill he has that I don't is not one I ever see any "need" for...there is no conceivable point where I'll HAVE to hire someone to do it for me, nor is there a point where the knowledge on how to run a deep fat frier (or how to differentiate between a "good" cook with one and a lousy coo with one will be important to me)...however, an HVAC qualified repairman knows things needed to do shit I DO consider important to my comfort (i.e. how to fix the goddamned air conditioning in summer), which I DON'T know...therefore, I won't chance pissing one off...because I can't tell if he did a halfassed job or a good job until the fuckign thing breaks again AFTER I've paid for his services.[/quote'] You can't tell the cook did a half-ass job until after you've taken your first bite of your fry and find out the thing is fucking burnt. Every time you eat a meal, that deep fryer was important to you. Don't degrade the lower people because without them you'd be making your own damn fries and your own hamburg(l)er. I look down on people, but I look down on everyone EQUALLY, which is something your hypocritical ass can't say. PsychoBud'] True' date=' in many cases, as far as skill learning...however, unless YOU can do it, don't go thinking you can guage the intelligence and creativity required to do it well...it's not as easy as you seem to think. I'll admit most virii are ripped off code, and the incarnations we usually FIND are scriptkiddy level shit..but a good virii IS both a nice bit of original code (usually) AND a pretty good example of creative thinking (in order to avoid detection as long as possible), as well as being a result of dedicated self-motivated learning and study.[/quote'] You're talking about shit you don't understand with shit you made up. Before you go on I'd like to see YOUR original code. I wouldn't write some revolutionary program even if I could because it would just get ripped off eventually by a bunch of idiot nolifes who think they are some pseudo-intellegent super being. Before you go on talking all your blah blah about how you shouldn't talk unless you can do it, I'd like for you to post ANYTHING original you've come up with. While you're at it, you can do that calculus problem you never answered. PsychoBud']As for the tecnical difference betwenn "malware" and "virus"... in "techspeak"' date=' "malware" pretty much means ANY destructive program, be it virus, worm, or a utility that unexpectedly formats a drive or deletes regkeys when the end user clicks it...pretty much a blanket term for "nasty software" started by programmers who make a distinction between "virii" (self replicating software, with or without destructive "payloads"), "worms" (usually applied to programs which don't replicate on the user machine, but DO spread themselves, and/or use the infected machine to attack other machines), or just plain destructive programs that do neither (your typical "trojan" isn't any sort of virus or worm...it's simply a client/server program not far removed from windows networking or telnet...but the "victim" isn't supposed to know they've got it)[/quote'] So you've just admitted that malware, in "techspeak," is just a broad term thrown around by idiots who don't know what they're talking about. So, tell me how sp0rkeh isn't a virus now that you've agreed that virus is just a subset of malware. I think I'll get something like this from you: BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH MALWARE BLAH BLAH NOT SAME BLAH VIRUS BLAH SP0RK. PsychoBud']Many viral coders are either underage to GET into decent programming jobs' date=' or don't have the "formal" education to land a decent progging job...half the anger at the "system" which causes alot of them to write destructive programs is the very fact that they can DEMONSTRATE their ability to do a better progging job than many professionals out there, but can't land a "productive" job, due to lack of "formal" credits, or because what formal education they have isn't from as prestigous a school as other applicants. (Basically, a company will hire a mook with a B.S. in comp sci from MIT, despite his complete demonstrated lack of creative thinking, and his accum GPA of 1.9 before they'll hire a kid who minored in comp sci at KSU with a 4.0, even if the aggie kid had a 4.0, and has a portfolio or original and useful "small" programs he did just to see if he could do a better program than the "common" one (look into the guy who coded Eudora e-mail client...it's named for the town his school was in, in KS...he programmed a superior e-mail client wile still in college, but couldn't get a job after graduating, despite an AMAZING GPA, and proof of talent)[/quote'] Good for him. Uh, what the fuck does that have to do with writing virii? What virus did the Eudora guy write? Eudora? He went to school to learn what he did over a span of 4+ years and he got a formal education. What does a virus writer have that even resembles that? The angst seeping out of their pimples? PsychoBud']I can't say I nesseccarily agree with the methods' date=' but I can completely understand the anger at KNOWING you're better than most of the working programmers out there, but can't land a damned job doing what you love, for whatever reason.[/quote'] That idealogy is the same reason they're outcasts in the first place. Acting superior to everyone only makes people like you less. Way to go, idiots, you've succeeded in not being able to get any recommendations to college. All because the "system!" IT IS OUT TO GET YUO!!!!!1 BETTER WRITE A PROGRAM TO VENT YUOR ANGER!111111111 I'm going to estimate that less than 30% of the population do what they love for a living, what makes these faggots so special?
February 12, 200421 yr NWA']Yes' date=' I do. In fact, I believe what I said was "if I need something coded I tell some comp. sci. idiot to do it for me."[/quote'] correct, that IS what you said...again, if YOU can't do it, what makes THEM "idiots"? NWA']You're talking about shit you don't understand with shit you made up. Before you go on I'd like to see YOUR original code. I wouldn't write some revolutionary program even if I could because it would just get ripped off eventually by a bunch of idiot nolifes who think they are some pseudo-intellegent super being. Before you go on talking all your blah blah about how you shouldn't talk unless you can do it' date=' I'd like for you to post ANYTHING original you've come up with. While you're at it, you can do that calculus problem you never answered.[/quote'] You'd be suprised how well I understand it. After all, comp sci IS what I'm in school for presently. As for original stuff I've come up with...let's see...my very first "hack" was the hex edited "drop an ear=max damage hit to nearest PC" in original Diablo, which was designed to lock godmoding PK's into a loop they'd have to alt-f4 to get out of (worked against the original boba fett godmode, and similar). Used softice to make it. since then, there's been a bunch of small stuff that was original, but mostly, you're right, I tweak other people's code to suit my purposes. Most people do...it's alot less time consuming than coding your own shit from scratch, in ANY language. NWA']So you've just admitted that malware' date=' in "techspeak," is just a broad term thrown around by idiots who don't know what they're talking about. So, tell me how sp0rkeh isn't a virus now that you've agreed that virus is just a subset of malware. I think I'll get something like this from you: BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH MALWARE BLAH BLAH NOT SAME BLAH VIRUS BLAH SP0RK.[/quote'] Not at all...I said "malware" is a techspeak blanket term for destructive programs, since virus is a specific TYPE of "malware"...virii are self-propagating programs (speaking in strict use, I mean)..a trojan is not a virus, a worm is not a virus, MOST "malware are not virii...because they don't produce unlimited copies of themselves on the infected machine, or otherwise attempt to "live and breed" in an infected host. Sp0rkeh is not a virus because it does NOT copy itself in any way shape or form, nor does it actively attempt to prevent removal of it from your system...it's "malware" because it's designed to do shit to the system it's run on that would be regarded as destructive by most people. NWA']Good for him. Uh' date=' what the fuck does that have to do with writing virii? What virus did the Eudora guy write? Eudora? He went to school to learn what he did over a span of 4+ years and he got a formal education. What does a virus writer have that even resembles that? The angst seeping out of their pimples?[/quote'] Like I said, read up on him...before he managed to sell the Eudora mail client, he was charged multiple times with distributing destructive programs that he wrote. The point was viral coders aren't "paid programmers" for various reasons...and oftentimes a damned good coder CAN'T land a decent job programming for bullshit reasons...which is what motivates many of them to create things that attack the companies/systems they do. NWA']That idealogy is the same reason they're outcasts in the first place. Acting superior to everyone only makes people like you less. Way to go' date=' idiots, you've succeeded in not being able to get any recommendations to college. All because the "system!" [b']IT IS OUT TO GET YUO!!!!!1 BETTER WRITE A PROGRAM TO VENT YUOR ANGER!111111111[/b] I'm going to estimate that less than 30% of the population do what they love for a living, what makes these faggots so special? Surveys I've read suggest less than 10% of the US working population are satisfied with what they do for a living..I dunno how correct those facts are, since those surveys are used to sell "retraining" for the job market. However, I personally know VERY few people doing what they "love" for a living...most people have half a dozen things they'd rather be doing than going to the office to make a living...things they WOULD be doing if it weren't for "having to make a living". By writing programs (even destructive ones) when they AREN'T getting paid to do so, the coders in question are showing quite clearly that they'd be coding, paycheck, or no paycheck... In that light, I can tell you in no uncertain terms that I sure as hell didn't "love" selling cars...or, later, warranties and sealants and over-interest loan on cars, when I was doing it for a living...neither did anyone I worked with...we did it because it paid well, and we were good at it (which is WHY it paid well...lol). In my own case, spending my free time gaming, and learning more about computers simply because I wanted to KNOW finally proved to me that "this" is what I really wanted to do...and there WAS a market for it...so when I was financially able, I quit working, and went back to school to GET the formal education that will enable me to land a job in the field. There's a LOT of shit that interests me, but nothing's held my interest as thoroughly or as long term as computers have. As for your calculus question, I've answered it thre times now. the last time I answered it you FINALLY said my answer was incorrect, then gave me a bullshit explanation...volume can NOT be negative in a 3 dimensional figure...anyhow, YOU can go searching through and find the post again, if you feel like it...I don't, because I KNOW you know better than the bullshit you try to pull, counting on the fact that noone who's going to say anything KNOWS that when there is no equasion to pull your constant from that an ANTIDERIVATIVE of zero is the customary arbitrary assignment...meaning that each value minimum is arbitrarily offset to 0 of the axis, and the max is "offset" plus the differential in the intergral...so without a statement to assign the "offset", your ranges are assumed to start at flat zero, and max at axis value maximum...and Christ do I hate to try and use english to say things that make sense better in math..lol
February 12, 200421 yr PsychoBud']correct, that IS what you said...again, if YOU can't do it, what makes THEM "idiots"? You'd be suprised how well I understand it. After all, comp sci IS what I'm in school for presently. As for original stuff I've come up with...let's see...my very first "hack" was the hex edited "drop an ear=max damage hit to nearest PC" in original Diablo, which was designed to lock godmoding PK's into a loop they'd have to alt-f4 to get out of (worked against the original boba fett godmode, and similar). Used softice to make it. since then, there's been a bunch of small stuff that was original, but mostly, you're right, I tweak other people's code to suit my purposes. Most people do...it's alot less time consuming than coding your own shit from scratch, in ANY language. Not at all...I said "malware" is a techspeak blanket term for destructive programs, since virus is a specific TYPE of "malware"...virii are self-propagating programs (speaking in strict use, I mean)..a trojan is not a virus, a worm is not a virus, MOST "malware are not virii...because they don't produce unlimited copies of themselves on the infected machine, or otherwise attempt to "live and breed" in an infected host. Sp0rkeh is not a virus because it does NOT copy itself in any way shape or form, nor does it actively attempt to prevent removal of it from your system...it's "malware" because it's designed to do shit to the system it's run on that would be regarded as destructive by most people. Like I said, read up on him...before he managed to sell the Eudora mail client, he was charged multiple times with distributing destructive programs that he wrote. The point was viral coders aren't "paid programmers" for various reasons...and oftentimes a damned good coder CAN'T land a decent job programming for bullshit reasons...which is what motivates many of them to create things that attack the companies/systems they do. Surveys I've read suggest less than 10% of the US working population are satisfied with what they do for a living..I dunno how correct those facts are, since those surveys are used to sell "retraining" for the job market. However, I personally know VERY few people doing what they "love" for a living...most people have half a dozen things they'd rather be doing than going to the office to make a living...things they WOULD be doing if it weren't for "having to make a living". By writing programs (even destructive ones) when they AREN'T getting paid to do so, the coders in question are showing quite clearly that they'd be coding, paycheck, or no paycheck... In that light, I can tell you in no uncertain terms that I sure as hell didn't "love" selling cars...or, later, warranties and sealants and over-interest loan on cars, when I was doing it for a living...neither did anyone I worked with...we did it because it paid well, and we were good at it (which is WHY it paid well...lol). In my own case, spending my free time gaming, and learning more about computers simply because I wanted to KNOW finally proved to me that "this" is what I really wanted to do...and there WAS a market for it...so when I was financially able, I quit working, and went back to school to GET the formal education that will enable me to land a job in the field. There's a LOT of shit that interests me, but nothing's held my interest as thoroughly or as long term as computers have. As for your calculus question, I've answered it thre times now. the last time I answered it you FINALLY said my answer was incorrect, then gave me a bullshit explanation...volume can NOT be negative in a 3 dimensional figure...anyhow, YOU can go searching through and find the post again, if you feel like it...I don't, because I KNOW you know better than the bullshit you try to pull, counting on the fact that noone who's going to say anything KNOWS that when there is no equasion to pull your constant from that an ANTIDERIVATIVE of zero is the customary arbitrary assignment...meaning that each value minimum is arbitrarily offset to 0 of the axis, and the max is "offset" plus the differential in the intergral...so without a statement to assign the "offset", your ranges are assumed to start at flat zero, and max at axis value maximum...and Christ do I hate to try and use english to say things that make sense better in math..lol I'm too lazy to reformat this right now. I never said I couldn't do it, I just said I need it. Just because I don't want to do it doesn't mean I can't. Wait, you're major is CS? What college do you go to, because I was under the impression that all CS majors had to go through enough calculus to solve the problem I gave to you. Also, I was under the impression that you could boost your damage in Diablo, but you couldn't just be like OH LOOK AN EAR LETS KILL THIS GUY. Post the code and a screenshot of it working. If malware is a blanket term then it is used when you don't know what what you're talking about is. Thus, idiots use it when they don't know what they're saying. Sort of like the phrase "mechanics" in writing. And sp0rkeh does "actively" attempt to prevent its own removal. It does this by making Windows not run. Good luck deleting it when you can't boot up. I'll pass on reading up on him. Why don't you post links to the articles and do the work for me since, you know, you brought him up. Oh, and the reason the Eudora guy couldn't get a job? Probably because of those charges. Being charged for a computer crime pretty much fucks over your chances of getting a computer JOB. That isn't a bullshit reason. And look, here you are posting on a forum about how you love computers! I don't see what any of your sad story has to do with coders doing what they like for a living other than the fact that you aren't doing what you like for a living. Virus coders are unwilling to make the effort to attend a college to get the credentials to get a job to do what they like. Big. Fucking. Deal. Who cares? They should be allowed special previleges where they can just be like YEAH MAN I WROTE SUB7 STEP BACK NIGGA WHAT GIMME THAT JOB and the interviewer will have to give him the job or face some sort of lawsuit? Please. These people are no better than the kid at McDonald's. In fact, the kid at McDonald's is better in a lot of ways. I've only seen the answer once, and I told you it was wrong. Volume can never be negative (volume only applies to 3D objects anyways), but an integral does not equal volume. Integrals can be negative. The rest of what you said makes no sense at all. Are you talking about f(x,y,z)? Look in ANY textbook and you'll find that the standard format for when f is left out means that f = 1. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about with axis and constants, because it is a DEFINITE INTEGRAL. Did your comp. sci. prof. teach you what that means? No? It means there is no C.
February 12, 200421 yr not to offend some of the more knowledgeable types that actually hang out here.. but when i read this The people who release the viruses are often anonymous mischief-makers, or ''script kiddies.'' That's a derisive term... don't yet have the skill to program computers but like to pretend they do. They download the viruses, claim to have written them themselves and then set them free in an attempt to assume the role of a fearsome digital menace. Script kiddies often have only a dim idea of how the code works and little concern for how a digital plague can rage out of control. Our modern virus epidemic is thus born of a symbiotic relationship between the people smart enough to write a virus and the people dumb enough -- or malicious enough -- to spread it. it reminded me of most of the people around here.. g0ts included. your idea of 'leet' is a few cut/pastes and getting someone to download a 'hack' for a game in order to 'rage' the general gaming population. if anyone is a loser, it's most everyone here.. not all.. but many.. and if you had to ask 'who, me'.. yeah, you. a lot of the people here are awesome.. most of you aren't. and what ever happened to all of the threads/logs about sp0rkeh? were they taken down out of fear that someone may actually get in trouble? i've been wondering about that. basically.. the next time that you go thinking you're just the coolest guy in the world.. unless you can piece together a tangible/coherant sentence.. you're not, you're just a poser. go hump your dad's leg and have a cookie..
February 12, 200421 yr the only place the derivative was negative was in the z axis...something like z min 1 zmax -28. I'm not looking the damned thing up again. No, they don't require calculus specifically in a comp sci degree...they require that 40 of your 144 total credits count as math credits, and allow life credits to replace those, at times. Western Washington University is the school I'm at for comp sci, and I'm effectively in my junior year, credits-wise. Volume applies to all "objects" described in three dimensions and above...volume is a calculated value in multidimensional figures used in statistics, too, you know. If I was going for an actuarial degree, THEN they'd require calc2 and above...or for physics, or math degrees. Fortunately for me, they credited me with calc2 already, despite the fact I took it in the late 80's in H.S., because I graduated in the same state. And they accepted my applied maths from my Elec Tech A.S. as credits too, despite the fact that almost all of THAT math is trig and applied algebra. In some ways, "returning students" get off light <grin> No, "malware" is NOT a term for when you "don't know what you're talking about"..."malware" came into use BECAUSE of people using the term "virus" to describe shit incorrectly out of ignorance...pretty much like yourself...literally, they took the term to mean "bad software". Reformatting a drive (which most versions of sp0rkeh DON'T do, BTW..NONE of the versions I've seen do it, actually) removes the "infectious" program as well...how the FUCK is that "preventing its own removal"? And preventing a bootup also doesn't count, since if the machine isn't running, it can't replicate, either. They're called "virii" because they behave like natural virii..infecting and taking over a "healthy" host, and forcing it to help them reproduce. And booting when you are infected with sp0rk isn't al that hard...just boot from disk, for one solution. Once booted, the system has NO issues with removing spork, nor does it attempt to hide or evade, removal is simple, and repair isn't THAT much harder...I crack up every time some asshole has to reformat/reinstall because he went and ran it, when there are three or four effective ways to avoid doing so (granted, all of them are time consuming, and a PITA) I can't post to articles regarding the Eudora creator, as the info I have on him is from a hardcopy book, "Information Should be Open To All:The Propriatary Code Conspriacy", a dry, and rather biased book, but interesting to me, nonetheless. However, he didn't start getting in trouble until AFTER he was still unable to get hired in his field five years after graduating an aggie college with a tech degree with a 3.92...multiple times, he was TOLD the reason he wasn't hired is someone from a better known school had applied as well, and was hired because the company "had a gauge for the quality of the education from that school"..I don't blame him a BIT for getting pissed over that (don't agree with his reaction, coding destructive shit, but that was HIS choice), I'd be pissed if I managed to graduate Magna Cum Laude, and was passed up for a job because some asshole C student from Berkley or MIT got the job because of the name of his school. Especially if I had examples of truly original code that was USEFUL, in a business application, already published, and the idiot who got the job had never produced anything but "tweaks"... I never said HIS situation was true of ALL viral coders, and I agree, many of them ARE "losers" due to their monomainia...someone who has no social skills dedicating themselves solely to a computer, where they design shit almost guarenteed to alienate themselves further from society, which they then blae for being "hostile", motivating them to do MORE shit that will alienate them further is pretty blind to common logic, in my eyes. HOWEVER, they aren't "stupid" in conventional sense, and they DO have skills worthy of admiriation..they just apply them misguidedly. But I can't find any more fault with them than I can find with someone who really LOVES talking out his ass and arguing for argument's sake (hmm...like NWA, maybe?) going for a law degree, then applying it by becoming an ambulance chaser or criminal defense attorny specializing in the "technical detail" defenses. The only real difference between the two, in my eyes, would be that the coders have a moral point, but do illegal things to make that point, where the lawyer types I mentioned have a legal point, and get incredibly immorral in their methods. BOTH are exploiting "systems", and constantly working to prove their inadequacy, for whatever reason.
February 13, 200421 yr sch|ute is funny. Any myg0t that requires cheats to rage is a failure. http://www.myg0t.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=17 for all your favorite sp0rkeh stories. rofl what the fuck are you talking about Psycho. min max blah blah if you're just taking each derivative individually without regards to the others, then you're doing it wrong. The fact is that there are TWO answers to the question I gave, one to volume and one to the actual integral. Volume, if you didn't know, ONLY applies to 3D objects. If you disagree then I suggest you tell me the volume of a 4D shape and how you'd find it exactly. Also, I assume you're talking about this university: http://www.cs.wwu.edu/advising/faq/general.asp#differences . It clearly states that you need 103 +/- 1 credits for the major, not this 144 you're talking about. However, you are right that they don't require above calculus 2. Malware is a term I've only EVER heard used in that article and by this faggot geek in my class when describing Windows. However, it seems that everything appears to be a "virus" nowadays and that it has lost the original meaning of something that "replicates by using a host." It's an argument of semantics and is pretty pointless. Likewise, sp0rkeh (which doesn't reformat as far as I know) "actively" seeks to preserve itself through means of not letting the user remove it. Again, this is an argument of semantics on what the definition of actively seeking to preserve itself is. The book sounds like liberal propoganda already. And if he wanted to get into a tech job he should have gone to a school known for tech shit. You don't go to Harvard and then sign up for a CS major, you go to MIT and sign up for it there. Just like you don't go to MIT and sign up for a degree in law. Further, how do you know these people were "C students." They got hired, he didn't. Either they had the same GPA and the difference was schools and classes or the MIT guy had a higher GPA. Aww, isn't that cute. You managed to slip in that insult. You do realize that you started the argument first, just for "argument's sake" as you put it. Just because I rag on some loser in the NYTimes doesn't mean you have to get all defensive because he's your idol. This "debate" has dissolved into an argument over semantics and the example of one person's success stories. Pretty shitty. I'm bored with it by now but I'll keep posting if you do. PS - the only inadequacy I see is your small e-penis compared to my huge one LOLOL 0WN3R3D
February 13, 200421 yr did you hear that, guys? i'm funny! nwa and psychobud>meh.. but just by a little bit
February 13, 200421 yr #include <iostream.h> int main() { cout<<"HEY, you, I'm alive! Oh, and Hello World!"; return 0; } leetest code ever written
February 13, 200421 yr LOL Mord NWA, the progger in question went to the school he did because it was what he could AFFORD...there are lots of people who can't afford tuition to MIT and other ivy leaguers, even if they make it through acceptance. According to the book, he was on a partial scholastic, and didn't qualify for other forms of aid, and they documented the situations where the guys who ended up in the jobs he applied for were underqualified compared to him. I will admit that the book was pretty propagandized, though...the whole basis of it was "open source good, information should be free for the taking, the system is too corrupt to continue working today" "volume" of a 4-D object (such as the "zone" in which a 4 dimensional statistical curve is in effect) is found by adding an extra dimension to the equasion...basically, in a cube, it would be width times length times height times duration (or whatever your fourth axis is labeled as), but it's still referred to as "volume", for some reason. I'm not saying it makes sense, though...lol. As foir the calc problem, I GAVE two andswers..triple integral (dz dy dx) and volume...I remember the volume I came up with was 12, and that dz was something like -27 (1 to -28), while dx was 2^1/2 (1 to 1+2^1/2), but don't recall dy without looking up the problem again...at any rate, what the equasion basically said was "your x axis minimum is 1 and the max is 1+2^1/2, your y min is 1 and max is 3+3(2^1/2), and z is 1 to -28...or something of the sort...meaning the three curves beagn at {1,1,1}, bell outwards in a triple parabola (x,z; x,y; y,z curves), and meet again, forming something that looks an awful lot like a warped flying saucer, to me.
February 13, 200421 yr Now you see the woes of being a white middle-class male. You don't get shit for financial aid. Haha isn't that a slap in the face. That isn't volume, that's volume over time. Just because volume is in it doesn't mean that it IS volume. And the 4th dimension usually is length, width, depth, and time. I remember you only giving one answer about a month back. Interesting, maybe you finally got around to doing it. And I don't remember the answer to it since I'm too lazy to redo it and the last time I did it was in 2003. Those answers look right. Good job, now we finally know that you took your MATH 224 class at WWU.
February 13, 200421 yr lol...I answered the volume the very first time, pointing out at the time you didn't give an equasion to derive the constant for it. Customarily, that means that the source point for all three curves should have been {0,0,0}
February 15, 200421 yr Nigglative, the source the curve is determined by the limits of integration. The function that you're integrating when doing a triple integral is normally 1. Double integrals involve a function f(x,y) that is usually not 1. And if you're talking about an initial value, then you're confused. Integrals have no initial value if there are limits of integration.
