Posted August 30, 200618 yr http://mmorpg.qj.net/Biggest-scam-in-EVE-Online-history/pg/49/aid/62826 Check out the video. Most EVE Online players probably heard about the GHSC infiltration incident, when a group of agents worked for one of the most successful corporations in the game, spending over a year undercover to gain the trust of the members, who eventually granted them access to the corp hangars. What followed was one of the most incredible heists in MMORPG history, as the group stole over 30 billion ISK from the corporation as well as destroying the leader's ships and escape pods. The community uproar was big and sparked one of the most interesting debates in regard to MMOs: In a fully open-ended game, with a player-driven economy and politics, should the developers step in and intervene when extreme things like this happen? Make no mistake, as cool as it sounds for outsiders and while the victims weren't innocents either, the work of GHSC ruined the efforts of many gamers who spent hundreds and thousands of hours in EVE trying to build up wealth and technology. Now the community has barely had time to calm down and here it is, the next incident that easily surpasses the numbers GHSC achieved with their heist. It's the story of a guy named "cally", who ran a corporation, a player-operated bank called "Eve Intergalactic Bank". Over the course of four months, hundreds of players deposited money in his bank, which offered interest, loans and insurance like every other ordinary bank. Except for the fact that one day, cally decided to grab all the money that was deposited and fly off to space with an alleged total sum of 790 billion Isk. In real life, this would translate to \$170,000 - quite possibly the biggest MMO scam ever conducted. Not only that, he also took the time to record a video in which he confesses his crimes, makes fun of the community, and reveals that he is a pirate, who once held the highest bounty in the game. No doubt this event will once again make the rounds on mainstream gaming sites as well, and it's time for your opinion on this. Do you think scams like this one make the game more compelling and more realistic? Or is it just a punch in the face for all the gamers just wanting to have fun, an unnecessary display of ego by someone who perhaps isn't successful in real life? We're very interested in your comments.
August 30, 200618 yr Haha, even though I know nothing of that game if the dev's stepped in it'd rage me so bad, its a game.
August 30, 200618 yr Have you heard about the new pirate movie? It's rated PG-13 cuz Disney is so bad ass.
August 30, 200618 yr That's dedication. A year in a MMORPG just to infiltrate a fake orginization and steal fake money, just to piss people off. I want to see this gold on eBay, just to piss off everyone even more because this guy is profiting from his pirating. griff0n, good post. EDIT: Kinda laughed after I read this : http://news.com.com/2061-10796_3-6110296.html Will the uproar mean that offline legal systems might start taking online crooks seriously? The jury's still out. Being that it's a role-playing game, with now laws, why should they even consider any punishment? These individuals are just role-playing a criminal, which are present in real society, why should they not be present in a virtual one? What makes them any less than someone role-playing a one eyed peg-legged space tranny?
August 30, 200618 yr um...cool. i've tried to play that game, the 14 day trial, but it's really complex. too high a learning curve to be worth my time. but that really is pretty impressive, 30 guys working together just to fuck over a gameworld corporation. i'm impressed.
August 30, 200618 yr ataraxia;374755']Being that it's a role-playing game' date=' with now laws, why should they even consider any punishment? These individuals are just role-playing a criminal, which are present in real society, why should they not be present in a virtual one? What makes them any less than someone role-playing a one eyed peg-legged space tranny?[/quote'] I agree with this part but I'm not sure I totally understand the circumstances, I mean, aren't there in-game 'authorities' equivalent to the real-life FBI that would give in-game punishments for this in-game crime. Of course they shouldn't be punished in real-life because they haven't broken any real-life laws.
August 30, 200618 yr I agree with this part but I'm not sure I totally understand the circumstances, I mean, aren't there in-game 'authorities' equivalent to the real-life FBI that would give in-game punishments for this in-game crime. Of course they shouldn't be punished in real-life because they haven't broken any real-life laws. If there are in-game authorities, they should have their own rules and methods of punishment, and if he gets caught, get punished. Just a RIFK they even think about IRL punishment when he's just playing a role in a role-playing game...
August 30, 200618 yr Keep a look out on the forum for suicidals. They are what make online robbery fun.
August 31, 200618 yr ataraxia;374820']If there are in-game authorities' date=' they should have their own rules and methods of punishment, and if he gets caught, get punished. Just a RIFK they even think about IRL punishment when he's just playing a role in a role-playing game...[/quote'] Personally I think the game could have been created in a better way then to have these sorts of things be such a problem. Take for example, people are "furious" because their e-cash was stolen, so i'm guessing that the e-cash in EVE matters a lot, however if someone somehow stole my WoW gold (which isn't possible unless my account somehow passes it on via someone using my account only) then i'd be annoyed but i'd soon move on, because WoW isn't so based on the curency, and I can make about 500g in WoW gold in less then a week if I wanted. Why didn't they just make an NPC bank?
August 31, 200618 yr It has been estimated that the stolen 790 billion ISK could fetch as much as $170,000 in the real-world marketplace holy shit....