Posted September 1, 200618 yr http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flatearth.html Earth Flat Society, meet myg0t. I say its time to do a little forum rage http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/index.php?sid=a5e08c2a5ebf1d1833b8bac3ba59c88c
September 1, 200618 yr shut the fuck up, the earth isnt round, its obviously flat... I MEAN COME ON, IF IT WAS ROUND, WOULDNT WE ALL JUST FALL OFF THE EARTH AND INTO SPACE?? THINK ABOUT IT MAN.
September 1, 200618 yr Author shut the fuck up, the earth isnt round, its obviously flat... I MEAN COME ON, IF IT WAS ROUND, WOULDNT WE ALL JUST FALL OFF THE EARTH AND INTO SPACE?? THINK ABOUT IT MAN. Now thats what we call gravity.
September 1, 200618 yr yes .... wait no ... yes.. no..... i know its a trick question THE EARTH DOESN:T EXIST!!!! im so smart :facesj:
September 1, 200618 yr the earth is a sphere. end of thread. Due to the fact that the earth is not geometrically perfect it cannot be called a sphere. It's shape is changind every day there for it has no defined shape.
September 1, 200618 yr It's all in your head, man. We are all just hooked up to machines in a building somewhere. Wrap your mind around that one!
September 1, 200618 yr It's all in your head, man. We are all just hooked up to machines in a building somewhere. Wrap your mind around that one! We have. Get on with your e-life already.
September 1, 200618 yr Terminology FE (theory/model): Flat Earth (theory/model), a theory which states that the Earth is flat. FE'er: Flat Earther, someone who believes in the FE theory. RE (theory/model): Round Earth (theory/model), a theory which states that the Earth is round. RE'er: Round Earther, someone who believe the RE theory. General / this forum Q: "Is this site for real?" A: This site is real. There are people who seriously believe the Earth is flat. However, there are also people on this site who do not. Q: "Why do you guys believe the Earth is flat?" A: Well, it looks that way up close. Also, Samuel Rowbotham et al. performed a variety of experiments over a period of several years that show it must be flat. They are all explained in his book, which is linked at the top of this article. Government Q: "Why do the all the world Governments say the Earth is round?" A: It's a conspiracy. Q: "What about NASA? Don't they have photos to prove that the Earth is round?" A: NASA are part of the conspiracy too. The photos are faked. Q: "Why has no-one taken a photo of the Earth that proves it is flat?" A: The government prevents people from getting close enough to the Ice Wall to take a picture." Q: "How did NASA create these images with the computer technology available at the time?" A: Since NASA did not send rockets into space, they instead spent the money on developing advanced computers and imaging software instead Q: "What is the motive behind this conspiracy?" A: The motive is unknown. Q: "If you don't even have a possible motive, why do you say there is a conspiracy?" A: Well it's quite simple really; if the earth is in fact flat, then the the governments must be lying when they say it isn't. Q: "How are the world governments organised enough to carry out this conspiracy?" A: They only appear to be disorganised to make the conspiracy seem implausible. PLEASE NOTE This means that pictures confirming the roundness or flatness of the Earth DO NOT IN THEMSELVES CONSTITUTE VALID PROOF Q: Why hasn’t this site been shut down by the government? A: Doing so would prove that the government is hiding something. The Earth in space Q: "What is the circumference and diameter of the Earth?" A: "Circumference: 78225 miles, Diameter: 24,900 miles Q: "What about the stars, sun and moon and other planets? Are they flat too? What are they made of?" A: The sun and moon, each 32 miles in diameter, circle Earth at a height of 3000 miles at its equator, located midway between the North Pole and the ice wall. Each functions as a "spotlight," with the sun radiating "hot light," the moon "cold light." As they are spotlights, they only give light out over a certain are which explains why some parts of the Earth are dark when others are light. Their apparent rising and setting are caused by optical illusions. In the "accelerating upwards" model, the stars, sun and moon are also accelerating upwards. The stars are about as far as San Francisco is from Boston. (3100 miles) Q: "Please explain sunrises/sunsets." A: It's a perspective effect. Really, the sun is just getting farther away; it looks like it disappears because everything gets smaller and eventually disappears as it gets farther away. Q: "Why are other celestial bodies round but not the Earth?" A: When you look at these celestial bodies, even with a telescope, they're entirely two-dimensional. Q: "What about satellites? How do they orbit the Earth?" A1: They don't, satellite signals come from radio towers. Q: "What's underneath the Earth?" A: This is unknown. Some believe it to be just rocks, others believe the Earth rests on the back of four elephants and a turtle. Q: "What about gravity?" A1: The Earth is accelerating upwards at 1g (9.8m/s-2) along with every star, sun and moon in the universe. This produces the same effect as gravity. A2: Gravity comes from an external source (to be discussed) Q: "Isn't this version of gravity (A1) flawed? Wouldn't planes/helicopters/paragliders crash into the Earth as the Earth rises up to them?" A: No. If that were to happen, then no planes could fly right now as gravity would pull them into the Earth. The reason that planes do not crash is that their wings produce an upthrust which, when the rate of acceleration upwards equals that of gravity's pull downwards, and so their altititude does not change. The same thing happens if the Earth is moving up. The plane is accelerating upwards at the same rate as the Earth, which means the distance between them does not change. Therefore, the plane stays at the same height and does not crash. Q: "Doesn't this mean we'd be travelling faster than the speed of light, which is impossible?" A: No, here is a detailed explanation. Q: "If the world was really flat, what would happen if you jump off the disc's edge?" A: You would enter an inertial reference frame, moving at a constant velocity in the direction the Earth was moving before you jumped. The Earth would continue accelerating upwards past you at a rate of 1g, so it would appear to you that you were falling into space. Q: "If the Earth was indeed a flat disc, wouldn't the whole planet crunch up into itself and eventually transform into a ball?" A1: If the Earth generated a gravitational field, yes, it would eventually happen, after a billion years maybe. FE assumes that the Earth does not generate a gravitational field. Also, I'm not sure what FE's stance on the age of the world is, but it's plausible that it's a younger estimation than the RE claim. A2: There is a counter-mass which pulls the Earth back into a disc shape. Q: "Why does gravity vary with altitiude?" A: The moon and stars have a slight gravitational pull. Q: Followup to previous question: How is it that the Earth does not have a gravitiational pull, but stars and the moon do? A: This argument is a non sequitur. You might as well ask, "How is it that snakes do not have legs, but dogs and cats do?" Snakes are not dogs or cats. The Earth is not a star or the moon. It doesn't follow that each must have exactly the properties of the others, and no more. Geography Q: Do you have a map? A: See this one, created by one of our members. There is also this map attributed to a person named Wilbur Voliva. Q: Exactly what shape is the Earth if it's flat? Square or circle? A: Circle, like in the UN logo Q: "Why doesn't water run off the Earth?" A: There is a vast ice wall that keeps the water where it is. The ice wall is roughly 150ft high. This also explains why you can find a vast plane of ice when you travel south. Antarctica as a continent does not exist. Q: "How does global warming affect the ice wall?" A1: Global warming is melting the ice wall, but the government isn't doing anything because cutting carbon emissions would damage the economy, and they only care about making money. A2: Global Warming doesn't happen. It and it's counter-theory (Global Cooling) are effects that cancel each other out. Remember, these "greenhouse gasse" can reflect heat back out into space as well as keep it on Earth. Yes, there are recorded rises in temperature, but the only records we have go back, at most, around 150 years. This is very likely an occurence that happens every [x>150] years, that's happened before (perhaps many times), and that the Earth has thus survived before. Q: "What about tides?" A: The tides exist due to a slight see-saw effect on the earth. As it goes back and forth, the water rushes to the side that is lower. Note, this is a very slight wobble. Remember, these wobbles are created by very minor earthquakes. They keep the tides in check. Notice that large earthquakes result in large tides or "tsunami".
September 1, 200618 yr Q : "Why is the North pole colder than the equator?" A: The sun orbits over the equator, not the North pole Q: "How do volcanic eruptions happen?" A: The Earth is thick enough to have a core of molten lava. Once there's too much of it in too confined a space, it finds it's way out, just like the water will come out of a full bottle if you squeeze it too hard Q: "What about time zones?" A: The sun is a spotlight which shines light on a concentrated area, so not everywhere on Earth will be lit at once. Times zones exist so that everyone's clock will be at 12:00 around the time the sun is approximately directly overhead. Q: "What about Lunar Eclipses" (Possible A) The moon isn't a spotlight; it glows with light from the sun, reflected off the Earth. Different parts of the Earth are more reflective than others (the seas, the polar cap, the ice wall, for example). Sometimes, the position of the sun (which is a spotlight) means that only very low-reflective or non-reflective parts of the Earth's surface are illuminated, so the moon is abnormally dark. This could potentially explain lunar phases as well. Q: "How come the travel time by air from South America to New Zealand, via the polar route, is SHORTER than the travel time going North first and then South again?" A: (Presumed answer: The airline pilots are misled by their GPS, or are deliberately conspiring to make it appear that the flights take different times) Q: "When traveling in a straight direction, you will always reach the same point on the globe from where you started. How can this happen if the world is flat?" A: You need to have evidence for this to be true. Also, define "straight." Remember, the northern point on the compass is, under most circumstances (unless near the centre or deep in the ice wall), pointing toward the centre of the Earth. Therefore, if you follow your compass due east or due west, ending up at the same point you started from, you've just gone around the world in a circle. Q: If you go directly south won’t you eventually fall off the edge of the Earth? A: Yes, you will. In order to use this fact as proof you need to record a video of someone flying directly south around the world without falling off the edge. Furthermore you need to prove that your navigational equipment allows you to travel directly south without deviating. Q: How come when I flush my toilet in the northern hemisphere it goes counterclockwise but I have this friend in Australia and when he flushes it it goes clockwise? You're mistaken. On a round Earth, the Coriolis effect adds at most one (counter)clockwise rotation per day; fewer as you get closer to the equator. The water in your toilet/sink/bathtub/funnel spins much faster than that (probably at least once per minute, or 1440 times per day) so the additional/lost rotation from the Coriolis effect wouldn't be noticed. Religion Q: "Are most or all FE's Biblical literalists, who feel like their religious belief system would be threatened by a round (i.e. spherical) earth, or are there any atheists/agnostics who are FE's as well?" A: Not all FE's are biblical literalists. This poll has more details: Poll Unanswered Q: Why is NASA’s space shuttle runway curved? Q: How does the atmosphere stay on the Earth? Q: Explain the Coriolis force? Q: Why does the hull of a ship disappear over the horizon before the mast does? Q: if the moon is a spotlight, why can i see a "man" in the moon (shadows cast by the sun on the hills and mountains on it) last i checked a light can't contain shadows. Q: Explain magnetism is there is no South pole. Q: Explain fully the optical illusion causing sunrises and sunsets.
September 1, 200618 yr That forum rages me, how the hell can anyone think that the earth is flat. And what the hell is jim bob doing there lol http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4349
September 1, 200618 yr This site is obviously a parody and the people on it aren't serious. On another note, the Earth is flat for all intents and purposes that a human might encounter.
September 1, 200618 yr funny how i was thinking about this yesterday we all can't really prove it unless we have been in space or travel across the world in a boat
September 2, 200618 yr funny how i was thinking about this yesterday we all can't really prove it unless we have been in space or travel across the world in a boat WELL SAID
September 2, 200618 yr wow arguing with christians, and fundo's too. i would have more luck beating my head against a brick wall.
September 2, 200618 yr Author They really did think of every question someone could ask and answered them. The one that made me laugh was that they spent all there money on high tech computers and imaging software rofl.
September 2, 200618 yr It's a site for honing debating skills. Imo, If you can argue that the earth is flat, you can argue anything.
