December 9, 200618 yr MAKONG;413751']"They might have appendages and maybe cephalization as well as bodily symmetry but they most likely won't look like humans" How can you say they most likely won't? There's no way they can "most likely" be anything becasue it's such a broad field and there's not a sufficient amount of information to really deduce anything. I agree with your general ideas, and you do know what you're talking about, but there's more to it. Things like skin, eyes, and all of that stuff can change with location. It's the humanoid form I'm referring to. They don't look like us, to have our shape. I think it's that basic shape that is most ideal for an intelligent species. As you said, it's "whatever works," so I'd assume there's many different versions of "our shape." (More wide, arms in different locations, etc). Oh! Well, in that case, I agree with you. There will definitely be variations between biological species and they might follow a general trend. "Even if they did have similar conditions on Earth, even the smallest difference on their planet could've affect the outcome of a species" We know nothing about our species, really. We're really egotistical when it comes to this subject. Is it them who look like us, or us who look like them? Also, the smallest difference in their evolution could have been what altered their pigment and made their skin tone appear to be "gray." (Just an example) But overall, all that really matters is they have the humanoid appearance. (Basically) True. However, it's really hard to speculate why an alien looks a certain way without actually seeing its planet and analyzing other species on its planet. All we really have to go on are "eye witnesses." "By the way, how would eliminating disease and toxic fumes get rid of body hair and cause them to have small noses?" Less to filter, less overall defense. It's no longer needed. I'd imagine they evolved backwards, like our appendix did. And as you said, since they're COMPLETELY different (they'd have to be) they may be evolving in different ways than we would. Temperature regulation in their environment could have been what caused them to lose their hair. Maybe, since their skin is seemingly nonporous, maybe they evolved in the way cetaceans did on earth. Maybe they evolved in the water? We can't be sure until we ask them. But a smaller nose would restrict air flow and prevent more stuff from entering the respiratory system and increase defense. If they really did eradicate all disease causing bacteria, I would assume that their nose got bigger in order to allow more air into their system since they can maximize respiration and they don't have to filter out all that gunk. It's also almost impossible to eradicate bacteria, viruses, and prions since most of them are r-selective and reproduce rapidly with a high rate of mutation. So I don't think that that would be the reason as to why their nose is small. Temperature: maybe. But losing hair all together seems strange. I'm sure that there would be at least some hair like us. I mean, short hair like the ones on our arms and legs. Even though it's a different planet, temperature varies a lot. Unless they've enclosed their entire planet in an insulating bubble which kept the temperature steady, I find it hard to believe that they have absolutely no hair. I'd say a more reasonable explanation would be that they evolved from a hairless animals and even they never obtained the gene for hair. I don't know. "We've never been visited by aliens in past. The fact that people claim to have seen humanoid aliens discredits them in the first place since it's unlikely that aliens would look like humans. UFOs? I'd say test planes, imagination, attention whores, etc. Aliens? Hallucinations, sleep walking, seizures, extra sensitivity to electromagnetism, attention whores, etc." Wow, I never thought it was possible to find a human alive who can ignore the facts like you. It's not just charlatans, crazy people, drug heads, and baffled witnesses unable to explain what they've seen. All those are halfway explainations, containing various holes and inconsistencies, and always point towards a government coverup. This isn't like the 9/11 movies. People can find a conspiracy in anything, but this happens all too often. There's too much tangible evidence against the government. Watch the movies I posted before you say things like that. I've seen those videos. However, I'm very skeptical about Area 51. Personally, I believe that Area 51 is simply a testing ground for advanced aircrafts. As for the "alien cover ups," who knows. They could've been made up by conspiracy nuts or maybe the government itself is perpetuating it to keep people off their feet as to what they're really doing. But for now, I'm going to remain skeptical on this subject. "If they were born to operate computers, they would operate their own versions of the computer, not the human version." Oh really? I expected them to run Linux, complete with human multimedia applications. Lawlz.:naughty:
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December 9, 200618 yr IF ALIENS DID EXIST THEY WOULD CONQUER US BECAUSE WAR IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF EVOLUTION.
December 9, 200618 yr IF ALIENS DID EXIST THEY WOULD CONQUER US BECAUSE WAR IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF EVOLUTION. you sir are the smartest person on the board
December 10, 200618 yr By the way, how would eliminating disease and toxic fumes get rid of body hair and cause them to have small noses? The nose is primarily for smell and to catch airborne particles and prevent them from reaching the lungs. So if they had a cleaner atmosphere they would have smaller noses.
December 10, 200618 yr Author Oh! Well, in that case, I agree with you. There will definitely be variations between biological species and they might follow a general trend. True. However, it's really hard to speculate why an alien looks a certain way without actually seeing its planet and analyzing other species on its planet. All we really have to go on are "eye witnesses." But a smaller nose would restrict air flow and prevent more stuff from entering the respiratory system and increase defense. If they really did eradicate all disease causing bacteria, I would assume that their nose got bigger in order to allow more air into their system since they can maximize respiration and they don't have to filter out all that gunk. It's also almost impossible to eradicate bacteria, viruses, and prions since most of them are r-selective and reproduce rapidly with a high rate of mutation. So I don't think that that would be the reason as to why their nose is small. Temperature: maybe. But losing hair all together seems strange. I'm sure that there would be at least some hair like us. I mean, short hair like the ones on our arms and legs. Even though it's a different planet, temperature varies a lot. Unless they've enclosed their entire planet in an insulating bubble which kept the temperature steady, I find it hard to believe that they have absolutely no hair. I'd say a more reasonable explanation would be that they evolved from a hairless animals and even they never obtained the gene for hair. I don't know. I've seen those videos. However, I'm very skeptical about Area 51. Personally, I believe that Area 51 is simply a testing ground for advanced aircrafts. As for the "alien cover ups," who knows. They could've been made up by conspiracy nuts or maybe the government itself is perpetuating it to keep people off their feet as to what they're really doing. But for now, I'm going to remain skeptical on this subject. Lawlz.:naughty: Yeah, I agree with basically what you're saying. The nose bit is too hard to determine the accuracy of. But I do think it's the width of the nasal passage, and not the length of the nose. I'm no doctor. I'm not going to argue things like that. As for Area51, I know it's for experimental/exotic aircraft. Flying saucers count as exotic aircraft. Too many other people have come forward with information pertaining to that. If there was any form of human/alien cooperation going on there it ended years ago. There'd be no need to house them on our planet, where the creatures could potentially get a disease. (If they were vectors for some sort of virus, we would have seen the results years ago when they first arrived.) Check out information on S-4 at Area51. It's very interesting. It all seems to confirm that shady things are going on there. Whether or not it plays a roll in conversing with beings from another galaxy (interview suite of S-4), well, that's all speculatory. We definatley need to find out for ourselves before we can successfully deduce anything.
December 10, 200618 yr Author IF ALIENS DID EXIST THEY WOULD CONQUER US BECAUSE WAR IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF EVOLUTION. That's a very "human" perspective. You're only basing that on the fact we have the highest intelligence of any species the public knows about. You haven't seen the next step up, so saying that is very ignorant of you. Do you not realise that war exists in lower lifeforms? An ant colony can go to war, a hive of bees can go to war, etc. You're just an idiot. Also, who's to say they haven't already done that? You don't need violence to conquer. That may be the very reason the government isn't telling us shit. They could be holding us hostage on our own planet.
December 11, 200618 yr Who Owns You? 1. The IRS is not a U.S. Government Agency. It is an Agency of the IMF. (Diversified Metal Products v. IRS et al. CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.D.I., Public Law 94-564, Senate Report 94-1148 pg. 5967, Reorganization Plan No. 26, Public Law 102-391.) 2. The IMF is an Agency of the UN. (Blacks Law Dictionary 6th Ed. Pg. 816) 3. The U.S. Has not had a Treasury since 1921. (41 Stat. Ch.214 pg. 654) 4. The U.S. Treasury is now the IMF. (Presidential Documents Volume 29-No.4 pg.113, 22 U.S.C. 285-288) 5. The United States does not have any employees because there is no longer a United States. No more reorganizations. After over 200 years of operating under bankruptcy its finally over. (Executive Order 12803) Do not personate one of the creditors or share holders or you will go to Prison.18 U.S.C. 914 6. The FCC, CIA, FBI, NASA and all of the other alphabet gangs were never part of the United States government. Even though the "US Government" held shares of stock in the various Agencies. (U.S. V. Strang , 254 US 491, Lewis v. US, 680 F.2d, 1239) 7. Social Security Numbers are issued by the UN through the IMF. The Application for a Social Security Number is the SS5 form. The Department of the Treasury (IMF) issues the SS5 not the Social Security Administration. The new SS5 forms do not state who or what publishes them, the earlier SS5 forms state that they are Department of the Treasury forms. You can get a copy of the SS5 you filled out by sending form SSA-L996 to the SS Administration. (20 CFR chapter 111, subpart B 422.103 (b) (2) (2) Read the cites above) 8. There are no Judicial courts in America and there has not been since 1789. Judges do not enforce Statutes and Codes. Executive Administrators enforce Statutes and Codes. (FRC v. GE 281 US 464, Keller v. PE 261 US 428, 1 Stat. 138-178) 9. There have not been any Judges in America since 1789. There have just been Administrators. (FRC v. GE 281 US 464, Keller v. PE 261 US 428 1Stat. 138-178) 10. According to the GATT you must have a Social Security number. House Report (103-826) 11. We have One World Government, One World Law and a One World Monetary System. * 12. The UN is a One World Super Government. * 13. No one on this planet has ever been free. This planet is a Slave Colony. There has always been a One World Government. It is just that now it is much better organized and has changed its name as of 1945 to the United Nations. * 14. New York City is defined in the Federal Regulations as the United Nations. Rudolph Gulliani stated on C-Span that "New York City was the capital of the World" and he was correct. (20 CFR chapter 111, subpart B 422.103 (b) (2) (2) 15. Social Security is not insurance or a contract, nor is there a Trust Fund. (Helvering v. Davis 301 US 619, Steward Co. V. Davis 301 US 548.) 16. Your Social Security check comes directly from the IMF which is an Agency of the UN. (Look at it if you receive one. It should have written on the top left United States Treasury.) 17. You own no property, slaves can't own property. Read the Deed to the property that you think is yours. You are listed as a Tenant. (Senate Document 43, 73rd Congress 1st Session) 18. The most powerful court in America is not the United States Supreme Court but, the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania. (42 Pa.C.S.A. 502) 19. The Revolutionary War was a fraud. See (22, 23 and 24) 20. The King of England financially backed both sides of the Revolutionary war. (Treaty at Versailles July 16, 1782, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80) 21. You can not use the Constitution to defend yourself because you are not a party to it. (Padelford Fay & Co. v. The Mayor and Alderman of The City of Savannah 14 Georgia 438, 520) 22. America is a British Colony. (THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION, NOT A LAND MASS AND IT EXISTED BEFORE THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR AND THE BRITISH TROOPS DID NOT LEAVE UNTIL 1796.) Respublica v. Sweers 1 Dallas 43, Treaty of Commerce 8 Stat 116, The Society for Propagating the Gospel, &c. V. New Haven 8 Wheat 464, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80, IRS Publication 6209, Articles of Association October 20, 1774.) 23. Britain is owned by the Vatican. (Treaty of 1213) 24. The Pope can abolish any law in the United States. (Elements of Ecclesiastical Law Vol.1 53-54) 25. A 1040 form is for tribute paid to Britain. (IRS Publication 6209) 26. The Pope claims to own the entire planet through the laws of conquest and discovery. (Papal Bulls of 1455 and 1493) 27. The Pope has ordered the genocide and enslavement of millions of people. (Papal Bulls of 1455 and 1493) 28. The Pope's laws are obligatory on everyone. (Bened. XIV., De Syn. Dioec, lib, ix., c. vii., n. 4. Prati, 1844)(Syllabus, prop 28, 29, 44) 29. We are slaves and own absolutely nothing not even what we think are our children. (Tillman v. Roberts 108 So. 62, Van Koten v. Van Koten 154 N.E. 146, Senate Document 43 & 73rd Congress 1st Session, Wynehammer v. People 13 N.Y. REP 378, 481) 30. Military Dictator George Washington divided the States (Estates) into Districts. (Messages and papers of the Presidents Vo 1, pg 99. Websters 1828 dictionary for definition of Estate.) 31. "The People" does not include you and me. (Barron v. Mayor & City Council of Baltimore. 32 U.S. 243) 32. The United States Government was not founded upon Christianity. (Treaty of Tripoli 8 Stat 154.) 33. It is not the duty of the police to protect you. Their job is to protect the Corporation and arrest code breakers. Sapp v. Tallahasee, 348 So. 2nd. 363, Reiff v. City of Philadelphia, 477 F.Supp. 1262, Lynch v. N.C. Dept of Justice 376 S.E. 2nd. 247. 34. Everything in the "United States" is For Sale: roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, water, prisons airports etc. I wonder who bought Klamath lake. Did anyone take the time to check? (Executive Order 12803) 35. We are Human capital. (Executive Order 13037) 36. The UN has financed the operations of the United States government for over 50 years and now owns every man, women and child in America. The UN also holds all of the Land in America in Fee Simple. * 37. The good news is we don't have to fulfill "our" fictitious obligations. You can discharge a fictitious obligation with another's fictitious obligation. * 38. The depression and World War II were a total farce. The United States and various other companies were making loans to others all over the World during the Depression. The building of Germanys infrastructure in the 1930's including the Railroads was financed by the United States. That way those who call themselves "Kings," "Prime Ministers," and "Fuher,"etc could sit back and play a game of chess using real people. Think of all of the Americans, Germans etc. who gave their lives thinking they were defending their Countries which didn't even exist. The millions of innocent people who died for nothing. Isn't it obvious why Switzerland is never involved in these fiascoes? That is where the "Bank of International Settlements" is located. Wars are manufactured to keep your eye off the ball. You have to have an enemy to keep the illusion of "Government" in place. * 39. The "United States" did not declare Independence from Great Britain or King George. * 40. Guess who owns the UN? * Caveat Redemptor - Verify for yourself More to come later
December 11, 200618 yr Disclosure project. http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=DISCLOSURE+Project! 2,000 year old computer? http://technology.sympatico.msn.cbc.ca/Scientists+unlock+mystery+of+2000yearold+computer/NewsandTrends/ContentPosting.aspx?isfa=1&newsitemid=antikythera-mechanism&feedname=CBC-TECH-SCIENCE&show=False&number=0&showbyline=True&subtitle=&detect=&abc=abc Fastwalkers film http://www.fastwalkers.com/ Dont have the time to find this link : search for - UFO - The Greatest Story Ever Denied - video Another video - http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-4468185100897567649&q=ufo+cylinder Just the tip of the iceberg. There's alot more of this.
December 14, 200618 yr With how infinately big the universe is, the chance of extra terestrial life exisiting is way greater then most people now. I fully believe that there are aliens.
December 15, 200618 yr MAKONG;416056']BUMP... ALIENS ARE REAL WHY THE HELL WOULD GOD CREATE ALIENS? you are an idiot. there is no use for them and they do not exist.
December 15, 200618 yr You guys are funny, talking about aliens and evolution and natural selection. You look here, bafoons, I took an introductory college class on hominid evolution, I KNOW STUFF. So you can trust me when I say you're all wrong.
December 15, 200618 yr First of all, id like to say im quite happy to see you enjoy, believe or whatever in the illuminati makong. I do aswell, even though i do belive that the illuminati is a collective name of alot of other groups. George W bush shouldn't be president at all ( How people simply could vote him in another time is beyond me ). I read alot of Davidickeforum.com, alot of crazy stuff but some people there has good things to say. On aliens and the videos posted here, they are cool. Aliens might exist, especially scinse the chance for their existance is bigger then the existance of a god. And btw, David Icke likes the reptoids, and its alot of crap. All shape shifiting pictures are bullshit. Reptiles on our thrones, a story from the man behind " I am gods son, Love personified ". - Watch the skies, and smash a camera. Destroy big brother -
December 15, 200618 yr You guys are funny, talking about aliens and evolution and natural selection. You look here, bafoons, I took an introductory college class on hominid evolution, I KNOW STUFF. So you can trust me when I say you're all wrong. Ooooh, introductory college class? Sounds so impressive. Any chance of you showing us these things you know? If you took a class on hominid evolution, it pretty much counts for nothing because we are discussing a species that has evolved in a completely different environment to Earth, therefore wouldn't have developed the need for double jointed legs, two eyes, etc.
December 15, 200618 yr You guys are funny, talking about aliens and evolution and natural selection. You look here, bafoons, I took an introductory college class on hominid evolution, I KNOW STUFF. So you can trust me when I say you're all wrong. yopu and your big humanieod or w/e words, like your all collage smartened and stuff
December 15, 200618 yr You guys are funny, talking about aliens and evolution and natural selection. You look here, bafoons, I took an introductory college class on hominid evolution, I KNOW STUFF. So you can trust me when I say you're all wrong. Wtf are you on about? We don't care about your education, this is a thread about your mothers species.
December 15, 200618 yr Author First of all, id like to say im quite happy to see you enjoy, believe or whatever in the illuminati makong. I do aswell, even though i do belive that the illuminati is a collective name of alot of other groups. George W bush shouldn't be president at all ( How people simply could vote him in another time is beyond me ). I read alot of Davidickeforum.com, alot of crazy stuff but some people there has good things to say. On aliens and the videos posted here, they are cool. Aliens might exist, especially scinse the chance for their existance is bigger then the existance of a god. And btw, David Icke likes the reptoids, and its alot of crap. All shape shifiting pictures are bullshit. Reptiles on our thrones, a story from the man behind " I am gods son, Love personified ". - Watch the skies, and smash a camera. Destroy big brother - Yeah, I have several personal connetions to the illuminati. They're real. The whole reptile thing is kinda weird, and doesn't (for the most part) seem remotely possible. If I ever seen anyone shapeshift, I'll be a believer. WHY THE HELL WOULD GOD CREATE ALIENS? you are an idiot. there is no use for them and they do not exist. You're an idiot. There's no god. Nor is there a Santa. Sorry to disappoint you. There is no entity with powers creating maricles for you, your prayers always go unanswered, and if there even was a (christian) god he would have died a long time ago. You have a horrible opinion. Also, note your post count. You know nothing. Newb. You guys are funny, talking about aliens and evolution and natural selection. You look here, bafoons, I took an introductory college class on hominid evolution, I KNOW STUFF. So you can trust me when I say you're all wrong. HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!! Talk about making a point with no facts to back it up. Your "introductory" knowledge is flawed apparently. All you did was refer to our trolls (I know you're not referring to me) as bafoons. You got on your high horse before people even knew why. I doubt you're even beyond anatomy/physiology. Reftue what I'm saying with factual evidence, and maybe I might agree. Until then, based on your actions, we can all assume that you know nothing. Newb.