January 19, 200718 yr zuZu;433278']in the near future , computers will be able to emulate the brain and is chemical process, and at some point, create AI, people think thats going to be the end of the world and everyone comes to the matrix ending, but what scientist predict was going to happen is, that AI will be able to help us in create ways, creating technologys and ideas that we cannot think of with our regulare human brain, and at some point, technology and us will become one, from adding extra memory to speeding up your thought process with nano chips, at some point, this peope with this implands will become so much smarter and faster, that us regulare humans, cannot keep up anymore, this is singularity, which is really, not that far away anymore, this can be the beginnng of a new area of excistence, but also the end of all human life, and creation of a new speciecs that will outsmart us in everyway, anyways i was reall hashed out while listing to this guy and he does make alot of sense check it out http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1615014803486086198&q=singularity&hl=en the world as we know it is ending soon, and star wars geeks like him are gonne take over, wit inteligence im positive this guy is hashed out too NICE damnit nvm Actually, the reason I spoke slowly in this particular speech is that it was addressed to an audience in Finland (at the World Transhumanist Association 2006), most of whom spoke English as a second language.
January 19, 200718 yr You also forget the people that could take advantage of this techonology. Want another Hitler? yes
January 20, 200718 yr A computer can only be as smart as it's programmed. and i'm not going to listen to some retarted stoner hippy for 40 mins, who doesn't know what the fuck hes talking about. you obviously have no fucking clue what is going on. i watched some of this video and although it was somewhat vague, it was very interesting. this guy actually knows what he is talking about and can form intelligible thoughts and ideas (unlike you). the theory behind singularity is that the processes of the brain are no less mechanical than those of a computer, and that we will be able to simulate the functions of the brain with very complex software. if you say that a computer can only be as smart as it is programmed you must also consider that the human brain is the same way. though extremely versatile, the human brain has its limits due to brain mass capacity and a number of psychological factors which can be likened to "good" or "bad" computer software. FOR EXAMPLE UR WINDOWS AND I"M UNIX LOLOLO :wow:
January 20, 200718 yr Author you obviously have no fucking clue what is going on. i watched some of this video and although it was somewhat vague, it was very interesting. this guy actually knows what he is talking about and can form intelligible thoughts and ideas (unlike you). the theory behind singularity is that the processes of the brain are no less mechanical than those of a computer, and that we will be able to simulate the functions of the brain with very complex software. if you say that a computer can only be as smart as it is programmed you must also consider that the human brain is the same way. though extremely versatile, the human brain has its limits due to brain mass capacity and a number of psychological factors which can be likened to "good" or "bad" computer software. FOR EXAMPLE UR WINDOWS AND I"M UNIX LOLOLO :wow: the hardware is there to emulate the brain, just the software is the tricky part, the brain is not just one single function thing, the brain is an entire body on itself, having many different parts, glans on itself, all working toghter, and at some point creating a illusion which is called the self, the brain updates you 40 times a second that you are you, and your feelings warmth coldness , sickness or feeling good, everything u pretty much preceive is in your brain, from you knowing that ur standing up to the point where u are able to walk without falling down, is all in ur head... check out this buddhist side, it tells you how it feels to die, which pretty much tells you how the brain works http://www.buddhanet.net/deathtib.htm dieng is a process taking up to 10 mins, losing one sense after another, to the point where u feel like your sinking to the ground, there is alot of other buddhist teachings too, but u can ignore that if your not into it.
January 20, 200718 yr DKay;433431']That my friend, I hope it will never happen http://www.lewrockwell.com/higgs/higgs48.html War has always been the mother of history, I wouldn't want to live in a world without war. Humans would find another way to try and dominate others, only it would be more insidious. Qft. It is human nature to compete, and conflict is one of the few constances. There will never be a way of life that everyone is truely pleased about. Why the fuck do so many people think the human brain is superior to the idea of a robot brain? Just because we are organic, doesn't mean we aren't simply a system controlled in the same way as a robot is. Take for example, the anti-depressant, prozac. It tampers with seratonin levels in the brain, hence making the person happier/less depressed. If we can manipulate and understand brain functions and processes, it is only a matter of time before we can fully mimic them in machinary. Robots at present are only as smart as the person who programmed it because it hasn't been given the ability to think independantly, but if the programmer gave the robot such powers, which would be the smarter one?
January 21, 200718 yr his concept of artificial intellegence is faulty. i dont believe for a second AI will be infinatly smarter then humans, my reasoning being that we created these AI ( or emulators ), they would only know as much as well tell them. the human comprehension process is based upon many rules that we have come to understand either because we are told, or we have expirenced it first hand. furthermore there are many laws we do not understand and alot we are not even aware of. the bot would have to BE in order to learn, it would have to exist and not be instructed as to what is fact and what is non fact ( which is impossible, as it would be a program and would operate within the laws we construct ) time will tell if i am wrong, i guess...though i believe i will be long dead before anything relevant is achived...and im 18 years old.
January 21, 200718 yr here's a horizon program about it http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3882715179234602208&q=horizon+duration%3Along&hl=en
January 22, 200718 yr zuZu;434145']the hardware is there to emulate the brain' date=' just the software is the tricky part, the brain is not just one single function thing, the brain is an entire body on itself, having many different parts, glans on itself, all working toghter, and at some point creating a illusion which is called the self, the brain updates you 40 times a second that you are you, and your feelings warmth coldness , sickness or feeling good, everything u pretty much preceive is in your brain, from you knowing that ur standing up to the point where u are able to walk without falling down, is all in ur head...[/quote'] it goes without saying that any software that would emulate the brain would be extremely complex. you mention the "point" at which conciousness develops. this is one characteristic that i see as a distinctly human characteristic. i doubt that animals like dogs or monkies contemplate their "self" and the meaning of their existence. i doubt that there is such thing as consciousnses and it is merely an illusion created by our complex brain. maybe our supersmart virtual being would be better off without such illusions. as for death, it can be described as a shutting down of all neurological processes (kind of like the blue screen of death). i often wonder what it would be like for my brain to be held in a jar with "me" still thinking inside, without any way to sense the world around me. would "I" be dead? or would would i be the same except without my body. furthermore, i think death can be compared to a sleep that we never wake from. we cannot tell that we are dead. we simply cease to exist. and we all know what it is like to not exist. it was the state we were in before we were born. i don't buy into most of that buddhist stuff (or any religious stuff for that matter). it all seems kind of wishy washy. but this kind of questioning raises alot of interesting points.
January 22, 200718 yr furthermore, i think death can be compared to a sleep that we never wake from. we cannot tell that we are dead. we simply cease to exist. and we all know what it is like to not exist. it was the state we were in before we were born. I was sperm and an egg before I was born, which were living organisms. Before that, I could've been apart of other forms of life that helped create those 2 living organisms, such as my ancestors, food taken in from animals, all reassembled to create me. I don't tend to fall into all that buddhist and religion stuff either, but after reading through a lot of it, a lot of it does raise some interesting questions and answers.
January 22, 200718 yr Well what if I get one of those chips in my brain to boost my intelligence or whatever and suddenly the thing fucks up (has a bug in it) and I turn into a TERMINATOR or a mindless zombie. That would suck ass
January 24, 200718 yr I was sperm and an egg before I was born, which were living organisms. Before that, I could've been apart of other forms of life that helped create those 2 living organisms, such as my ancestors, food taken in from animals, all reassembled to create me. interesting, using that logic we could be born again through recycled stuffs. ( our body dies, and makes food for other things resulting in materials to make new sperm and eggs etc ) however i doubt the concious mind we have now would ever be reborn.
