January 23, 200718 yr I agree I'd rather spend money I worked hard for on beer that actually tastes good. Wheat beers are good, if I don't feel like a light beer I'll get Old Speckled Hen or Guiness I guess, but I'm not a guiness freak like you see some people post; They act like you can drink that shit on a daily basis or something, GG liver! Oh and for the thread starter: http://www.cwu.edu/~bergmane/images/Normal%20Liver,%20Fatty%20Liver,%20and%20Cirrhosis.GIF http://www.murrasaca.com/ascitis1.jpg ENJOY YOUR LIFE!!!