Posted January 27, 200718 yr Seen lot's of fgt threads about, but this subject is actually interesting so fuck it. What interesting dreams do* people have, and can anyone on here do lucid dreaming?
January 27, 200718 yr I keep having dreams that I get shot twice, but in a matter of seconds, the wound is all cleared up.
January 27, 200718 yr i hate people that go on and on about dreams they had. like they actually think poeple give a fuck. dreams are cool when they are yours, but hearing someone elses makes you wanna ram a pen up there nostil and into there brain. NOW YOU CAN DREAM ALL YOU WANT IN PERMANENT BRAIN DAMAGE COMA BITCH
January 27, 200718 yr d0wn;437513']i hate people that go on and on about dreams they had. like they actually think poeple give a fuck. dreams are cool when they are yours' date=' but hearing someone elses makes you wanna ram a pen up there nostil and into there brain. NOW YOU CAN DREAM ALL YOU WANT IN PERMANENT BRAIN DAMAGE COMA BITCH[/quote'] Too bad *I don't care what you think. -Risking a ban
January 27, 200718 yr d0wn;437516']im not gunna ban you' date=' just gunna put you in a coma[/quote'] *sand to eyes*
January 27, 200718 yr Ive had 2 lucid dreams in my lifetime... most amazing things ever. I first learnt about it when i did my psychology course at college.... I can always remember my dreams really vividly.. its crazy. I used to have this one where i was in this deserted place, really hot, lots of sand around, and theres this bunker type shelter thing, a concrete room with 2 windows and a door, no glass in them, just square holes. Then someone comes into the room through the door, and i try to punch them, but it goes in slow motion and i get really frustrated because my punches dont hit/hurt. Then i run out of the weird room out into the open where its deserted, dusty and isolated... like a desert but without sand, just dried out dirt. anyway... Im tryin gto run over this hill away from this person, but my legs wont let me go anywhere and hes catching up behind me... Then i wake up. I always have that dream
January 27, 200718 yr According to Frued, dreams were expressions of the unconscious mind. I think it owuld be interesting to read Freud's "Interpretation Of Dreams" so that way I could analyze all my dreams and find out what my unconscious wants to do.
January 27, 200718 yr According to Frued, dreams were expressions of the unconscious mind. I think it owuld be interesting to read Freud's "Interpretation Of Dreams" so that way I could analyze all my dreams and find out what my unconscious wants to do. dont get me started on psychologists theories
January 27, 200718 yr Ive had 2 lucid dreams in my lifetime... most amazing things ever. I first learnt about it when i did my psychology course at college.... I can always remember my dreams really vividly.. its crazy. I used to have this one where i was in this deserted place, really hot, lots of sand around, and theres this bunker type shelter thing, a concrete room with 2 windows and a door, no glass in them, just square holes. Then someone comes into the room through the door, and i try to punch them, but it goes in slow motion and i get really frustrated because my punches dont hit/hurt. Then i run out of the weird room out into the open where its deserted, dusty and isolated... like a desert but without sand, just dried out dirt. anyway... Im tryin gto run over this hill away from this person, but my legs wont let me go anywhere and hes catching up behind me... Then i wake up. I always have that dream I hate when you cant punch people in a dream -_-
January 27, 200718 yr I had a dream the other week. It was quite odd. I was in my yard and there was a car that wasn't mine attached with a metal chain to some kind of motor scooter. A neighbor was standing in his yard and looked at me and I yelled at him accusing him of placing the car in my yard. I walked over to him and he began growling at me and grinding a meat grinder with no meat. That is all.
January 27, 200718 yr I Had A Dream PART I: in which I Wake Up ...and in this dream, I had pieces of paper, see. And two printers. One was green, one was yellow. And they scanned, actually, instead of printing; but in the dream they were printers. That's not important. The green and yellow wasn't important either. The important thing is that you could write a sentence on a piece of paper and scan it with the printers, and they would determine if the sentence was true or false. One printer was true, one was false. There was a really great adventure-game puzzle built around these printers. Ever since waking up, I've been trying to figure out what that terrific puzzle was. I know it had to do with paradoxes. You know, like the Liar: "This sentence is false." (By the way, I'm going to slap the next person who says "I am a Cretan. All Cretans are liars." Because that's not a paradox. That's just a pair of lies. It was uttered by Anatoles, the Notoriously Dishonest Personage of Thebes, and he was slandering Crete outrageously; Cretans are no more untrustworthy than anyone else. Well, anyone else except Syracusians. But that's another paradox.) Now, it's easy enough to write some Inform code (or TADS, I assume, but I know Inform) to parse sentences like "The red pyramid is on the green cube", and determine truth or falsity. You know, the old SHRDLU dialogue. Whip up a short grammar of statements ("OBJ is [not] on OBJ", "OBJ is [not] under OBJ", "OBJ is [not] touching OBJ", "OBJ is [not] PROPERTY"), create appropriate Inform objects, and the truth-tester routine is a few minutes' work. (Life gets harder if you allow compound statements -- "and", "or" -- so we won't.) None of this is any fun unless we can write statements which refer to the truth or falsity of sentences. How do we sneak that in? "This sentence is false" is a bit of a nuisance to parse in Inform, since "this" is a pronoun. Two different pieces of paper could say "This sentence..." and they would not be referring to the same object. And how would you refer to "that sentence"? "The sentence on the wide paper is false"? (Long paper, short paper, wide paper, torn paper...) Way too much typing, though. Let's go with that colored-printer idea! You write a sentence on a piece of paper, and stick it in the printer. The paper turns green if the sentence is true, or red if it's false. So you take your long piece of paper and you write "The red pyramid is on the cube", and then you take your wide paper and write "The long paper is red". Now we're using the same parsing routines and the same statements as before -- always a win. The truth-tester routine acquires one special case, which calls itself recursively. No problem. Well, it is a problem, as soon as you try the interesting case: when the short paper says "The short paper is red." Now your recursive case loops forever. But really, you want to special-case that as well. Actually, we'll need a little more cleverness, to take care of multi-step loops. ("The short paper is red." "The long paper is green.") We need an array to track this chain and see whether it loops back on itself, or bottoms out with an "ordinary" factual statement. Fortunately, we already decided to disallow "and" and "or", so it's just a chain, not a tree... and as long as we limit the number of paper slips, we can limit the maximum size of the chain. I didn't feel like inventing more than four adjectives for "paper" anyhow. So we detect a loop, and, conveniently, there are just two possibilities. It can boil down to "This sentence is false," or "This sentence is true." The former can't be either red or green. The latter can be either. So how does our Inform object react to the Liar? Make it turn grey, I figure. A nasty static-colored grey. Snow-crashed paper. Cool! Hey, as long as we're inventing new colors, what about "This sentence is true"? That should turn a fourth color, say brown, a muddy combination of red and green...
January 27, 200718 yr PART II: in which I Pull the Wool Over Your Eyes But maybe that doesn't make as much sense as it sounds like. After all, we're not allowing the player to enter "This sentence is true." Instead, we've got "The short paper is green" (written on the short paper). How can that turn brown? If it was brown, it would be false, and it should turn red! The point of a fourth color is to represent (not just symbolize) the logical state of a statement which can consistently be either true or false. We'd better make it ripply, a color in which green and red are both visible. Of this paper, we can safely say both "It is red" and "It is green". Easier to describe than to visualize, but this is why I'm in text games. Of course, the player might still write (on the short paper) "The short paper is ripply." We'd like this to model the statement "This sentence can consistently be either true or false." Is it? (Oh, dear, the conjunctions have snuck up on us.) Well, if it's true, then it can consistently be either true or false. If it's false, then it must either be definitely true, definitely false, or inconsistent in either state. Let's see... The statement is certainly consistent if it's false. If it's true... well, that could go either way! If it's consistent when it's true, then it can consistently be either true or false, which demonstrates that it's consistent if it's true. And if it can only be consistent when it's false, then it can't be consistent in both states, which makes it false. This piece of paper can be either ripply or red! We'll need a new color... "The short paper is grey" runs into a similar problem. That should mean "This sentence cannot be consistently be either true or false." Headaches ensue. You know, this four-valued logic really isn't working out very well. Perhaps we should go back to a naive view of color. "The short paper is grey" turns red because, well, red means false, and a red piece of paper is not grey. "The short paper is brown" turns red too. Really, I think I've been engaged in a certain amount of verbal kerfuffling. The usual notion of "logical proof" -- analyzing whether a statement is true or false -- relies on proof by contradiction. You assume a value for a statement, derive a contradiction, and thereby prove the opposite value. But if "contradictory" is just another value, the structure gets rather shaky. (Shall we write "Grass is grey" on our piece of paper? Now if grass isn't grey -- and it isn't -- this paper should be grass-green. But if grass is grey, we can look out the window, observe that it isn't, and thus arrive at an inconsistency. So the paper can be either grey or green... yet another color... no, wait, that's not right...) Is the law of the excluded middle so important? As it turns out -- yes. Did you ever wonder why all those logic puzzles are set on the Island of Knights and Knaves? Because the puzzle-setter has to specify that every statement in the puzzle is either true or false! If he doesn't tell you that, then you can't logically deduce anything at all... Which is why a human being can pronounce the words "This sentence is false" without his lips catching fire. Re-read that; it's important. A logic puzzle can give you a random statement, even a self-referential one, and ask you "Was this spoken by a knight or a knave?" That's a well-founded question. The unspoken assumption of the puzzle is that it's one of the two. Given that assumption, you may be able to prove the speaker is a knight; you may be able to prove the speaker is a knave; you might not be able to prove either; or you might be able to derive a contradiction, thus disproving the assumptions of the puzzle. The only explanation then is that the puzzle-setting has lied to you. (Of course, the Island of Knights and Knaves is fictional, and are not all fictions basically lies? But I digress.) No wonder we're having so much trouble with our damn pieces of paper. We're not just trying to model truth and falsity -- any Liar can do that -- but provability and unprovability. Green means "If you, an arbitrary personage on the Island of Knights and Knaves, say the sentence here inscribed, then I can prove you are a knight." Red means "If you say this sentence, then I can prove you are a knave." Brown means "...I cannot prove either," and grey means "If you say the sentence written here, I can prove you are not from the Island of Knights and Knaves!" Dear, dear me. If a fellow from the Island walked up to me and says "You cannot prove whether I am a knight or a knave," I would really have no idea how to proceed. (And then you could observe that the fellow's statement is true, and therefore he must be a knight. But I couldn't make that deduction! You are clearly smarter than me!) ...As you see, the role of the logician in this puzzles cannot simply be waved away. We have to decide in advance what "provable" means, in order to know what colors our papers should turn. i forgot the rest
January 27, 200718 yr I hate when you cant punch people in a dream -_- Why the fuck does that always happen?
January 27, 200718 yr I always have lucid dreams, tons of fun, also I've had that dream a couple of times where you can't punch.
January 27, 200718 yr this morning i was dreaming that i was in some sort of war, and the mercs were invading and you could talk to them they were that close. i mounted a .30 cal and was freaking out, then i woke up.
January 27, 200718 yr Ive had 2 lucid dreams in my lifetime... most amazing things ever. I first learnt about it when i did my psychology course at college.... I can always remember my dreams really vividly.. its crazy. I used to have this one where i was in this deserted place, really hot, lots of sand around, and theres this bunker type shelter thing, a concrete room with 2 windows and a door, no glass in them, just square holes. Then someone comes into the room through the door, and i try to punch them, but it goes in slow motion and i get really frustrated because my punches dont hit/hurt. Then i run out of the weird room out into the open where its deserted, dusty and isolated... like a desert but without sand, just dried out dirt. anyway... Im tryin gto run over this hill away from this person, but my legs wont let me go anywhere and hes catching up behind me... Then i wake up. I always have that dream That's DEATH! Be careful when he catches you, that means you're gonna die, or you're already dying, lmao. I had these strange ass dreams though... one of them I was able to fly and I had wings, all I had to do was jump and I was flying. Now that was a dream I didn't want to wake up from... Another time I thought I was underwater, but I could still breathe. So I tried to swim to the dark areas of the water (you know, like the abyss in the mariana trench) and next thing you know I fucking wake up. My last dream was a scary one (I think). I dreamed I was being chased by these green ass zombie dogs that when they bit you you turned into a brainless zombie. The entire city was filled with these things, and I fell off a highway intersection trying to escape one, but it jumped down and got me.
January 27, 200718 yr The worst dreams are when your sick, feels really weird. SNEAAAKYYYYY says: i'm gunna insult someone on myg0t SNEAAAKYYYYY says: then go watch a movie Fuck you cunt.
January 27, 200718 yr Think about the islamic paradise: be surrounded by 72 perfect, ever-beautiful, non-threatening, non-demanding females, in an eternal non-relationship - the happiest life, everlasting life, god willing. That is a perfect dream. Fucking fuck man, YOU DID THAT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-SXhvdRh-U
January 27, 200718 yr I always have lucid dreams, tons of fun, also I've had that dream a couple of times where you can't punch. Bullshit Lucid dreams are rare... and even people who train themselves to do it can't achieve them all the time.
January 28, 200718 yr Ive had 2 lucid dreams in my lifetime... most amazing things ever. I first learnt about it when i did my psychology course at college.... I can always remember my dreams really vividly.. its crazy. I used to have this one where i was in this deserted place, really hot, lots of sand around, and theres this bunker type shelter thing, a concrete room with 2 windows and a door, no glass in them, just square holes. Then someone comes into the room through the door, and i try to punch them, but it goes in slow motion and i get really frustrated because my punches dont hit/hurt. Then i run out of the weird room out into the open where its deserted, dusty and isolated... like a desert but without sand, just dried out dirt. anyway... Im tryin gto run over this hill away from this person, but my legs wont let me go anywhere and hes catching up behind me... Then i wake up. I always have that dream http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9761/worzelmeetspencilte3.jpg
