March 11, 200718 yr Author Sobeit;453793']double standards have been around since the mid-80s let me be the first to say OLD. http://forums.myg0t.com/showpost.php?p=451085&postcount=3 http://forums.myg0t.com/showpost.php?p=451088&postcount=6 You mean: "Let me be the third to say old"?
March 11, 200718 yr Why the hell you mother fuckers so racist? Where the fuck you find a cracker bassist? Time for the brothas to step up to the white folk. You bitches are softer than egg yolk. :naughty:
March 11, 200718 yr Why the hell you mother fuckers so racist? Where the fuck you find a cracker bassist? Time for the brothas to step up to the white folk. You bitches are softer than egg yolk. :naughty: Speak english you dirty nig nog.:nigga:
March 11, 200718 yr You sure it's skin colour.... but just a different culture altogether? which is secluded to one set of people with a different colour of skin. This idea that your skin colour affects how you behave and affects your brain is bloody stupid. IRTT The idea that, yeah why are whites never allowed to have their own mass movement, they would be branded as racist. I wonder why? a good way to start is colonialism and taking peoples land which is not theres. Someone can say, " it wasn't me, im not responsible" that may be true, but that does not stop this prejudice that will be continued down throughout history against other races than the white race. There has never been a NEED for a white race movement.... the white race has never been oppressed in the way that jews or black people have.... thats probably a good reason. Throughout history whites have done nothing more than make other races lives a misery, and we can go only back to the 1950's when whites were controlling parts of the world and other races and what they done. I'm not even talking about the Black movement in America. What about Britain and France during the Suez cannal? The egyptians, only wanted a nationalist movement, a country which they could rule... it is little wonder why a lot of the third world countries hate the involvement of Countries such as the USA or Britain, all they have done is cause havok and problems to further our own goals and countries.... and it hasn't brought an overall advancement to the world, only to the western world. Alright. I don't really approve of colonilism either due to the fact that I feel whites and nationalists in Europe should put their own country in the first place rather than conquering land far away with other races and cultures. I do on the other hand see it as that africans for example are a rather lower culture and race as they can't build any societies that lasts, the only working african societys has been apartheid systems in South Africa and white businesses and factories in Africa. Just take a look at South Africa now, its crawling with poverty, aids, murder and all kinds of shit. So saying that blacks can build good societies is a damn lie. And the idea of a white nationalist movement is always needed, you don't have to be oppressed to bring forward your races/countries interests in the first place. I don't support white movements because I feel oppressed, it's because I don't want to be oppressed in the future. I don't believe in multiracial/cultural societies, so no, I'm not gonna hold hands with Kunta kinte and sing Kumbajah my lord. White movements are needed as much as asian movements in Asia or Muslim movements in the middle east.
March 12, 200718 yr Do you have any evidence to prove that african's cannot produce a culture or society which has not lasted? Its pretty tough to do as africa was never really given its own chance to do so, wouldn't you say, simply because of cololialism. wouldn't you say that its far to hard to produce that in a country which has still got colonialism smacked into its face on a map.... i.e the divison of africa after the end of decolonisation. If we look at europe we see borders are no straight lines throughout the country whereas it is in Africa. what does that have to do with anything? everything... the division of cultures which has defined much of europe... germans in germany french in france, but in africa these borders were set by the imperial powers.... not a natural division had the africans been left to their own continent. However, back to your point about african society not being able to hold itself together for that long. If we look at the way in which many of the tribes in africa that were not that touched by western powers, we see that their culture and society is a much more nomadic one. This would be caused by the geographical area, not by their skin colour. The land that they live on does not allow for their people to stay in one place because the land is too arid and would not be suitable for farming, like much more temperate places such as europe where people can settle on a piece of land. What does this mean.... skin colour does not define people for the way they behave, much more it is geographical factors. This is looking at African culture, not afro-american culture. You also realise that all of the nationalist movements have been created simply because their nations have been oppressed.... if everyone followed your ideals; i.e everyone keeps to their own country and that is all... there would be no need for nationalist movements because there would be no confrontation and the only reason nationalist movements have occurred is because of oppression in the past and the only reason that they have occurred is because of white colonialism. mainly British colonialism.
March 12, 200718 yr Do you have any evidence to prove that african's cannot produce a culture or society which has not lasted? Its pretty tough to do as africa was never really given its own chance to do so, wouldn't you say, simply because of cololialism. wouldn't you say that its far to hard to produce that in a country which has still got colonialism smacked into its face on a map.... i.e the divison of africa after the end of decolonisation. If we look at europe we see borders are no straight lines throughout the country whereas it is in Africa. what does that have to do with anything? everything... the division of cultures which has defined much of europe... germans in germany french in france, but in africa these borders were set by the imperial powers.... not a natural division had the africans been left to their own continent. However, back to your point about african society not being able to hold itself together for that long. If we look at the way in which many of the tribes in africa that were not that touched by western powers, we see that their culture and society is a much more nomadic one. This would be caused by the geographical area, not by their skin colour. The land that they live on does not allow for their people to stay in one place because the land is too arid and would not be suitable for farming, like much more temperate places such as europe where people can settle on a piece of land. What does this mean.... skin colour does not define people for the way they behave, much more it is geographical factors. This is looking at African culture, not afro-american culture. You also realise that all of the nationalist movements have been created simply because their nations have been oppressed.... if everyone followed your ideals; i.e everyone keeps to their own country and that is all... there would be no need for nationalist movements because there would be no confrontation and the only reason nationalist movements have occurred is because of oppression in the past and the only reason that they have occurred is because of white colonialism. mainly British colonialism. No, seeing as they've been free a number of years now, without white involvement, they haven't managed to do anything but to bring their countries down the drain. Take Zimbabwe and South Africa as an example. And honestly, they hadn't been touched before the first colonizers came to the continent in the 1400's. Whites, Arabs and Asians had a far more superior culture by then, it was still tribe culture, and if they want to live that way fine by me, but don't take the tribe culture to Europe. Saying the whites are responsible for blacks killing eachother in Africa and even USA (gangs, which is a sort of tribe culture) is simply you looking down on them seeing as you think that we are responsible that black people can't run a society. If the black race was "equal" to us they would have had a society and intelligence like ours, wouldn't they. It's not "the man" keeping them down. It's the same type of mentality used in our society, example: "it's not tyrones fault he robs and rapes, it's the evil racist goverment not treating him well enough" And no, nationalist movements doesnt pop up simly when their nation is oppressed, but that we feel that we are gonna be oppressed in the future if we don't take matters soon enough.
March 12, 200718 yr When you say that they have been free from white involvement... untrue and false you know it and I know that the amount of companies that have invested in these 3rd world countries to keep their costs low for cheap labour.... that is still involvement with their country and a similar level of oppression... they keep the wages low enough to cover their costs when it is very easy for companies to give a little more just to help bring forward countries. If Africa should be left to its own devices then white firms should do that aswell. I wonder how far the prices would stay the same if firms had to pay workers over here minimum wage and keep the same profit levels that they have... or would firms take it out their own pocket? So to say that the White race has completly left Africa is a complete lie. It is an economic power that now reigns over Africa.... who needs troops when you can destroy someones economy. We know that there are vital resources in Africa aswell. If we were to sit and left africans get own with it themselves, it would be far longer a wait for say things such as mobile phones. You may not know it but many of the vital resources that is required to make them is quite rare... the largest deposits for some of the metals required lie in africa... guess that is one thing that we shouldn't have then if we are too leave each other out. It would be far better if countries aided each other equally through fair and competitive markets. Coming back to your points on why the government shouldn't help... your completely right... it should be the companies that people work for to give people a more fair and balanced pay. Now I'm not saying that a shop assitant should be paid the same as a duty manager, but a more fair and balanced pay for those right down at the bottom of the work system should get a more equal share of pay. This goes for everyone. when you see the money that those at the very top have.... its too much. They know that they can't spend it. I'm talking about personal profits here, not company profits. The gap between the rich and the poor has grown... its not hte governemnts fault but more that it is the men at the top's fault. They are entitled to a handsome wage... sure, there the guys that have sustained this company.... however, they simply have far too much and its rediculous. the top 100 richest people in the world have more money than 2/3 of the worlds population combined, thats 4 billion people... Doesn't seem a bit unfair? I'd say that is the man keeping everyone else down. Also when you mention that blacks kill each other because of their lack of intelligence, It seems absurd and rediculous to make these claims. lets stick to africa right now. Once again these will be cultural differences between two different societies or cultures because of politics between one another. Lets look back now to 1914-1919 (yes 1919, war didn't end till then) and 1939-1945... wait what happened then.... the civilised the most advanced nations dragged each other into a two of the most bloody and stupid wars to ever ocurr. The technologies introduced, as Churchill said "the stone age may return on the gleaming wings of science." Then only after a year of cooperation between two completely different cultures/ideologies coming together for a common cause, plunge themselves into another 50 years of suspicion. The only difference is technology and what geography has enabled us to do. The only reason we have been able to advance is because of the land in which we have advanced.... Black people, Asian people, white people.... every different ethinicity is stupid not just one. the 20th Centuary has done proved this in every possible. To say that the two world wars could have been avoidable is completely sane and possible. What does this show, blacks are not the only idiots.... white people are stupid aswell. Tell me which national movement has not occurred bar the neo-nationalist movements i.e neo-fascist movements that have not sprung up during a time of crisis. The vast majority of them do... Even hitlers arose at a time of crisis... the only reason hitler was elected was because he promised to bring germany back to the former prosperous nation it was before 1914.
March 12, 200718 yr You're avoiding the actual subject with alot of text that brings nothing new into what you've said before.
March 12, 200718 yr Explain how I've missed all of your points... which I have answered, and if I have gone off in a tangent, explain how... care to explain a bit more, rather than telling me I have and not saying why. The only reason i'm bringing these texts in is simply to reiterate my points which you have missed and have not answered specifically.
March 12, 200718 yr The only answer I want is if you think black people can build a good working society?
March 12, 200718 yr I've already explained in all my posts, that yes I don't see why not. It's all in there, that is an answer (read them over and it's in there). It's a long answer, because its a complicated one which if you want to discuss does require a higher level of depth rather than looking at the outer layers. What would be your evidence against it... a fair and balanced view of this would of course exclude colonial imperialism and economic imperialism that has been sanctioned against them since the past 200-300 years (i.e when imperialism really kicked off to quench the thirst of the industrial nations)
March 13, 200718 yr Well, like the video I posted on page 2 suggests, when a white guy drops the N bomb in a freestyle rap gathering, he gets in shit (from the black host), but I bet any money if a black guy had said it, or had said cracker/honkey/ghost/whitebread/slavetrader they wouldn't have said shit.
March 19, 200718 yr I've already explained in all my posts, that yes I don't see why not. It's all in there, that is an answer (read them over and it's in there). It's a long answer, because its a complicated one which if you want to discuss does require a higher level of depth rather than looking at the outer layers. What would be your evidence against it... a fair and balanced view of this would of course exclude colonial imperialism and economic imperialism that has been sanctioned against them since the past 200-300 years (i.e when imperialism really kicked off to quench the thirst of the industrial nations) No, seeing as where blacks are, it's just dark and basically anarchy. So no, I don't believe that they can make a good society. Just about every reason-from slavery, colonialism, neo-colonialism to inequitable world trade rules-cited for the backwardness of Black African nations has been so debunked by time that it has now become necessary to look beyond these things. And I can't see shit, captain.
March 23, 200718 yr r0k;456342']No, seeing as where blacks are, it's just dark and basically anarchy. So no, I don't believe that they can make a good society. Just about every reason-from slavery, colonialism, neo-colonialism to inequitable world trade rules-cited for the backwardness of Black African nations has been so debunked by time that it has now become necessary to look beyond these things. And I can't see shit, captain. What do you mean where they are? What timeline? Now? Your answer is way too broad and your not giving any specific examples of what your talking about. Took your time to reply aswell.
March 23, 200718 yr Well, like the video I posted on page 2 suggests, when a white guy drops the N bomb in a freestyle rap gathering, he gets in shit (from the black host), but I bet any money if a black guy had said it, or had said cracker/honkey/ghost/whitebread/slavetrader they wouldn't have said shit. Welcome to 2007
March 23, 200718 yr Why do most people on these forums think just cause they say "white power" ect.. they think their racist? When in fact they probably socialize with blacks, yellows and brownies at school or college. I don't think I'm a racist however, i do stand up for myself and the colour of my skin. - - about that black history month, when MTV was showing it on tele and advertising it, they had thousands of these stories about this whole racism thing. - - http://www.bombardier.co.uk/bombardier/promotions/petition Sign up to that as well, be patriotic!
March 23, 200718 yr What do you mean where they are? What timeline? Now? Your answer is way too broad and your not giving any specific examples of what your talking about. Took your time to reply aswell. You've lost the argument, stop with the "what do you mean" shit. Yeah, I took my time to reply because I have better things to do than to talk to people that will never understand jack shit. Thank you, I'm out.
March 23, 200718 yr When you say that they have been free from white involvement... untrue and false you know it and I know that the amount of companies that have invested in these 3rd world countries to keep their costs low for cheap labour.... that is still involvement with their country and a similar level of oppression... they keep the wages low enough to cover their costs when it is very easy for companies to give a little more just to help bring forward countries. If Africa should be left to its own devices then white firms should do that aswell. I wonder how far the prices would stay the same if firms had to pay workers over here minimum wage and keep the same profit levels that they have... or would firms take it out their own pocket? So to say that the White race has completly left Africa is a complete lie. It is an economic power that now reigns over Africa.... who needs troops when you can destroy someones economy. We know that there are vital resources in Africa aswell. If we were to sit and left africans get own with it themselves, it would be far longer a wait for say things such as mobile phones. You may not know it but many of the vital resources that is required to make them is quite rare... the largest deposits for some of the metals required lie in africa... guess that is one thing that we shouldn't have then if we are too leave each other out. It would be far better if countries aided each other equally through fair and competitive markets. Coming back to your points on why the government shouldn't help... your completely right... it should be the companies that people work for to give people a more fair and balanced pay. Now I'm not saying that a shop assitant should be paid the same as a duty manager, but a more fair and balanced pay for those right down at the bottom of the work system should get a more equal share of pay. This goes for everyone. when you see the money that those at the very top have.... its too much. They know that they can't spend it. I'm talking about personal profits here, not company profits. The gap between the rich and the poor has grown... its not hte governemnts fault but more that it is the men at the top's fault. They are entitled to a handsome wage... sure, there the guys that have sustained this company.... however, they simply have far too much and its rediculous. the top 100 richest people in the world have more money than 2/3 of the worlds population combined, thats 4 billion people... Doesn't seem a bit unfair? I'd say that is the man keeping everyone else down. Also when you mention that blacks kill each other because of their lack of intelligence, It seems absurd and rediculous to make these claims. lets stick to africa right now. Once again these will be cultural differences between two different societies or cultures because of politics between one another. Lets look back now to 1914-1919 (yes 1919, war didn't end till then) and 1939-1945... wait what happened then.... the civilised the most advanced nations dragged each other into a two of the most bloody and stupid wars to ever ocurr. The technologies introduced, as Churchill said "the stone age may return on the gleaming wings of science." Then only after a year of cooperation between two completely different cultures/ideologies coming together for a common cause, plunge themselves into another 50 years of suspicion. The only difference is technology and what geography has enabled us to do. The only reason we have been able to advance is because of the land in which we have advanced.... Black people, Asian people, white people.... every different ethinicity is stupid not just one. the 20th Centuary has done proved this in every possible. To say that the two world wars could have been avoidable is completely sane and possible. What does this show, blacks are not the only idiots.... white people are stupid aswell. Tell me which national movement has not occurred bar the neo-nationalist movements i.e neo-fascist movements that have not sprung up during a time of crisis. The vast majority of them do... Even hitlers arose at a time of crisis... the only reason hitler was elected was because he promised to bring germany back to the former prosperous nation it was before 1914. tl:dr learn grammer you jiggaboo.
March 23, 200718 yr r0k;457556']You've lost the argument, stop with the "what do you mean" shit. Yeah, I took my time to reply because I have better things to do than to talk to people that will never understand jack shit. Thank you, I'm out. he is right
