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"What do you mean none concern you?"

 

You tottaly misread what i typed. I said that I like his ideas, but i have not seen a laid out plan of action on how hes going deal with these issues. that is of CONCERN to me.

 

I honestly didnt understand what you meant. So you meant just an actual plan as far as how he would conduct his actions? Like how he's actually going to pull out of Iraq? I mean shit, i could do that. Land as many airships, boats and helicopters as possible and leave. It not that hard, we could be out of that country within a 2 or 3 hour period.

 

#1 & #2 You said that we are well on our way to ruling the world, 120 diff countries have our troops ect.

 

Other countries do this. ill give you a hint as to whom.

 

ANY FUCKING 1st WORLD COUNTRY. maybe not as many countries but they certainly are close.

 

Im not trying to argue with you, i am within my second week of trying to learn politics and world news. But what countries and how many countries do they (1st world countries.) hold land in? 1st world? Do you mean like Germany, China, Japan, Russia, Australia? 1st world to me means everyone except 3rd world countries. I never hear about 2nd world so please explain.

 

If the government can orchestrate an attack on the WTC and kill 5000+ of its own citizens. What qualms would it(the government) have with assasinating an ugly college student making a movie about their consipiracy.

 

I have to ask as to why you brought this up twice. Neither I nor anybody in this thread has brought up 9/11 (which is what you're referring to right?) so why do you keep bringing it up? I don't think it was 5000+ ppl that died, it was more around 3500+ that died. Unless i'm mistaken that this is just the Towers death toll? Besides that though, i really dont believe that the USA planned that. I DO believe that we knew about it which is pretty much a fact but our own negligence let it happen.

 

Again, I am seriously not trying to undermine or discredit you but i would like to learn where you are coming from, so dont get angry and hostile with me just because i am learning and arguing your opinions/facts.

 

Do you live in America? Which Candidate are you going to vote for? Do you think that Bush is a good President?

The reason why the Govt doesn't eliminate people who talk about conspiracies and make movies of such is simply because people won't believe it anyway. It's like starting a rumor that IS true knowing it's such big news no one will believe it. If you go in to stomp out the rumor people will start to believe it.

 

 

It has been said that....these groups that run the world.... are 6 steps ahead. We know what we learn when they expect it to happen....meaning they're 6 steps ahead already....these people are beyond any imaginable intelligent we could comprehend. Hell that is what they live to do....is control the world...and they're smart enough to be able to do it.

d3dsh33p;531022']ok everyone who still browses, as you may know i support ron paul to the fullest, after researching about 100+ hours on my own in the past week i have come to the conclusion that we...

 

as an American people and the entire world we are in the most exciting and dangerous times we have ever known...

 

people and friend of all country and all religion this is not a joke

 

all question you may have about anything and everything you trusted the gov with have been a lie

 

all party sides left and right republican / democrat have been a very well planned and 100 year old lie

 

all wars you know of have been planned and paid for by our national banks and the people that have 99% of all money and power. both are the same and it has all been planned that way. social acceptance equals social slavery by acceptance...

 

no matter what party you represent and no matter what you think about anything you know about anything has been a lie...

 

we all as a people need to wake up and realize what masionic symbols mean... what is on the one dollar bill, what has been the same symbols thrughout all history as we have it recorded...

 

nazi, crusaders, queens, devine rulers, all of it is a lie to enslave us all and the new idea they got is to do it thru debt

 

listen when i ask you... research masionic symbols, research who has used them thruought the last 100 years at least, who owns the national bank and who prints the money and for what reasons

 

--i wrote this and i am very serious. if you know me, you will definately know im serious... d3

 

Rothschilds

Illuminati

Skull & Bones

Committee of 300

Builderbergers

Freemasons

Bohemian Grovers

Satan worshipers

501c3 preachers

The Corporate Media

 

This is ridiculous...political parties have been lying to us for over 100 years for some master plan to enslave us all? You don't realize that the people who have power today weren't even alive 100 years ago. Most politicians are born in a normal town and live a normal life but gain an interest in politics and/or activism. They then attend law school and become an attorney/lawyer or pursue some sort of office. How are these people supposed to be influenced by and dragged into some grand, secret scheme to control all life? Look around you, are you being controlled? You have to pay taxes, but so what; most countries have taxes. You, as an American or citizen of any other "western" country have the right to pursue whatever kind of desires and goals you want. Of course there are punishments for murder, rape, unethical begetting of money, etc. but this is what government is for; protecting citizens from those who choose to do what is immoral. There is NO secret plan for control, and Ron Paul does not think so either. I am not attacking Ron Paul here, I am attacking those who think his campaign is about exposing and eliminating some huge and long lasting government conspiracy. I would, though, support Ron Paul for the Republicans or Mike Gravel for the Democrats.

So many issues with this that i cant go all out. But i will point out one major flaw in all of this.

 

If these "Rulers of the world" really do rule the world as you believe. What chance does a doctor running for office have to change it.

Revolutionary ideas, great, a plan of attack for these ideas, as far as ive seen he doesnt have one which concerns me.

So if he really was trying to change anything that would effect these "rulers of the worlds" profit, dont you think he would be assasinated, bought out, or blackmailed, to make him fit into their plan?

 

If they really did rule the world, and he really was going to change it to a system that would put them at the disadvantage than it would not happen.

 

I hate to quote maddox but in his article about ***gy loose change, He does raise a point. Summed up as, if the government can orchestrate an attack on WTC and kill 5000+ of its own citizens, why is this ***gy kid not assasinated and his video pulled before it spread to eveyr 13 yearold kid.

 

I'm just gonna play devil's advocate against you here Fanbelt, but I agree with you.

 

What if the government/feds/'rulers of the world' let someone make a craooy conspiracy theory every once in a while? This way every rationally thinking Westerner (you, me) dismisses the conspiracy theories. What if they have half truths in them? What if after posting this I get assasinated?

 

 

edit: PS YOU'RE ALL RETARDS

The world is ruled by shapeshifting lizardmen!

 

The world is not some simple thing that a few guys can rule, it's comforting to think that everything is planned but it just isn't so.

Neocons ftw anyways!

 

I found this rather interesting but one who reads this must realize that the author is specifically anti-government and is using the definitions of certain terms to prove his case. He claims that the US is a corporation merely because it is capitalized; I do not find this to be enough to clarify the US as a corporation, but if it was, under what boundaries or state would it be a corporation? None! So what is regulating the corporation? Nothing! Therefore it cannot be a corporation. Also the definitions he provides from Black's Law Dictionary do seem to prove that citizens are chattel property, but this is only by the technicality of wording.

 

The author suggests ways to get around paying taxes by copyrighting your own name so you cannot be called to court, but why would you want to? The government exists to protect citizens from other citizens and other countries, and in return we owe them taxes. If you don't wish to participate in this social contract then by all means do what the author suggests. In summary, how is Ron Paul going to change the fact that we are all chattel property?

I found this rather interesting but one who reads this must realize that the author is specifically anti-government and is using the definitions of certain terms to prove his case. He claims that the US is a corporation merely because it is capitalized; I do not find this to be enough to clarify the US as a corporation, but if it was, under what boundaries or state would it be a corporation? None! So how can it operate as a corporation? Also the definitions he provides from Black's Law Dictionary do seem to prove that citizens are chattel property, but this is only by the technicality of wording.

 

The author suggests ways to get around paying taxes by copyrighting your own name so you cannot be called to court, but why would you want to? The government exists to protect citizens from other citizens and other countries, and in return we owe them taxes. If you don't wish to participate in this social contract then by all means do what the author suggests. In summary, how is Ron Paul going to change the fact that we are all chattel property?

 

 

its not, but hes the best choice out of all of them

just watch the zeitgeist movie to sum it up. i too will be voting ron paul

 

 

This man speaks the truth, Tool fans ftw :)

I found this rather interesting but one who reads this must realize that the author is specifically anti-government and is using the definitions of certain terms to prove his case. He claims that the US is a corporation merely because it is capitalized; I do not find this to be enough to clarify the US as a corporation, but if it was, under what boundaries or state would it be a corporation? None! So what is regulating the corporation? Nothing! Therefore it cannot be a corporation. Also the definitions he provides from Black's Law Dictionary do seem to prove that citizens are chattel property, but this is only by the technicality of wording.

 

The author suggests ways to get around paying taxes by copyrighting your own name so you cannot be called to court, but why would you want to? The government exists to protect citizens from other citizens and other countries, and in return we owe them taxes. If you don't wish to participate in this social contract then by all means do what the author suggests. In summary, how is Ron Paul going to change the fact that we are all chattel property?

supreme court has ruled more than once that US citizens are chattel property, google it and it shows a few popular instances

d3dsh33p;531022']ok everyone who still browses, as you may know i support ron paul to the fullest, after researching about 100+ hours on my own in the past week i have come to the conclusion that we...

 

as an American people and the entire world we are in the most exciting and dangerous times we have ever known...

 

people and friend of all country and all religion this is not a joke

 

all question you may have about anything and everything you trusted the gov with have been a lie

 

all party sides left and right republican / democrat have been a very well planned and 100 year old lie

 

all wars you know of have been planned and paid for by our national banks and the people that have 99% of all money and power. both are the same and it has all been planned that way. social acceptance equals social slavery by acceptance...

 

no matter what party you represent and no matter what you think about anything you know about anything has been a lie...

 

we all as a people need to wake up and realize what masionic symbols mean... what is on the one dollar bill, what has been the same symbols thrughout all history as we have it recorded...

 

nazi, crusaders, queens, devine rulers, all of it is a lie to enslave us all and the new idea they got is to do it thru debt

 

listen when i ask you... research masionic symbols, research who has used them thruought the last 100 years at least, who owns the national bank and who prints the money and for what reasons

 

--i wrote this and i am very serious. if you know me, you will definately know im serious... d3

 

Rothschilds

Illuminati

Skull & Bones

Committee of 300

Builderbergers

Freemasons

Bohemian Grovers

Satan worshipers

501c3 preachers

The Corporate Media

 

FOOL. You know Ron Paul has no chance so don't waste your time making a substandard attempt at making a point. Now shut your mouf before I pillage your asshole.

FOOL. You know Ron Paul has no chance so don't waste your time making a substandard attempt at making a point. Now shut your mouf before I pillage your asshole.

 

STFU AND GTFO FAG, RON PAUL FTW!

 

i think i should make a new list in my sig of all the people that hate Ron Paul and people can give them -reps for being stupid

STFU AND GTFO FAG, RON PAUL FTW!

 

i think i should make a new list in my sig of all the people that hate Ron Paul and people can give them -reps for being stupid

 

fuck you troll boy

There's one way out.

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Ron Paul: popular on the internet, and insignificant everywhere else.

 

Some of his domestic policies are somewhat interesting. I won't go into detail there.

 

He describes his foreign policy as non-interventionist. Some of his comments imply that the U.S. should not use military force unless there is a vital U.S. interest. Normally, such a person is referred to as a "political realist"; a traditionalist if you will. If such were the case, I'd be inclined to agree with him. Yet he advocates withdrawing from the NATO, The UN in general. That fact alone eliminates any chance that I would vote for him. Too isolationist.

 

The U.S. needs to withdraw from the UN and NATO to "maintain national sovereignty"? That's utterly ridiculous. Look at every American foreign policy decision since WWII (i.e. since the UN was founded) and you'll quickly see why.

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