God chooses not to help because he chooses to test our faith in him. You may find if you guys actually read the bible.

 

If you'll read the Bible then, you'll find many cases where "God" intervenes repeatedly, often the result being bloodshed or a curse.

 

Read the Book of fucking Job and you'll see "God" gambling away with a man and letting Satan kill off his entire family.

believe in God or not, there has to be SOMETHING after were dead i mean comon...we cant just rot away in our coffins like that, why is this whole world here in the first place? HOW was this whole world here in the first place?

 

There HAS to be something? Just because you have wishful admirations about yourself with Geezus and friends doesn't make it true. Again, just because we don't know the reason we're here doesn't mean made up reasons substitute.

Are you guys actually debating the existence of a god? Anyone who believed in god after 1859 is simply a retard.

If you look at the historical records, you'll find that a lot of the supposed miracles by Jesus were borrowed from pagan myths and legends.

 

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa1.htm

 

your not understanding what im trying to tell you, Jesus had to have done something to actually make the people believe that he was actually sent from God not some crazy maniac

 

and why do you post 5 times at one time?

 

taken from the site:

 

"Many early Christians celebrated Jesus' birthday on JAN-6. Armenian Christians still do. In Alexandria, in what is now Egypt, the birthday of their god-man, Aion, was also celebrated on JAN-6."

 

im Armenian and yes we do celebrate it on Jan 6, Armenians were the first to accept Christianity.

your not understanding what im trying to tell you, Jesus had to have done something to actually make the people believe that he was actually sent from God not some crazy maniac

 

The Gospels themselves weren't written until 50-80 years after Jesus' supposed death and his accounts were written in contradictory accounts by 4 PEOPLE. Outside of that, there were no "eyewitnesses." I'm failing to see what point you're trying to make.

 

and why do you post 5 times at one time?

 

I'm addressing multiple people where a multi-quote just won't suffice.

Skankuser.

 

You have to realize, most religious people probably haven't read through the old testament once in their fucking lives. Atheists know more about the bible than the devout do, because its contents are fucking embarrassing to people who claim to follow it. For my favorite example, see my signature.

SupYouFool;536956']Skankuser.

 

You have to realize, most religious people probably haven't read through the old testament once in their fucking lives. Atheists know more about the bible than the devout do, because its contents are fucking embarrassing to people who claim to follow it. For my favorite example, see my signature.

 

i have read the old testament.

i have read the old testament.

 

 

What was your favorite part of Leviticus?

SupYouFool;536958']What was your favorite part of Leviticus?

 

circumsision lol

I think this part is fucking hilarious. God doesn't even know how to cure a disease that he created! I guess the best thing we can say about him is that if he does exist, he is more of an underachiever than a fucking downs child, or even Shantt.

 

 

14:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

14:2 This shall be the law of the leper in the day of his cleansing: He shall be brought unto the priest:

14:3 And the priest shall go forth out of the camp; and the priest shall look, and, behold, if the plague of leprosy be healed in the leper;

14:4 Then shall the priest command to take for him that is to be cleansed two birds alive and clean , and cedar wood, and scarlet, and hyssop:

14:5 And the priest shall command that one of the birds be killed in an earthen vessel over running water:

14:6 As for the living bird, he shall take it , and the cedar wood, and the scarlet, and the hyssop, and shall dip them and the living bird in the blood of the bird that was killed over the running water:

14:7 And he shall sprinkle upon him that is to be cleansed from the leprosy seven times, and shall pronounce him clean, and shall let the living bird loose into the open field.

 

Now if you plan to live your life according to rules written by cattle and bird sacrificing primitives that wrote the above and couldn't figure out how to invent a fucking wheelbarrow, your wasted life is indeed well deserved, oh my god i love devout christians.

SupYouFool;536960']I think this part is fucking hilarious. God doesn't even know how to cure a disease that he created! I guess the best thing we can say about him is that if he does exist, he is more of an underachiever than a fucking downs child, or even Shantt.

 

 

14:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

14:2 This shall be the law of the leper in the day of his cleansing: He shall be brought unto the priest:

14:3 And the priest shall go forth out of the camp; and the priest shall look, and, behold, if the plague of leprosy be healed in the leper;

14:4 Then shall the priest command to take for him that is to be cleansed two birds alive and clean , and cedar wood, and scarlet, and hyssop:

14:5 And the priest shall command that one of the birds be killed in an earthen vessel over running water:

14:6 As for the living bird, he shall take it , and the cedar wood, and the scarlet, and the hyssop, and shall dip them and the living bird in the blood of the bird that was killed over the running water:

14:7 And he shall sprinkle upon him that is to be cleansed from the leprosy seven times, and shall pronounce him clean, and shall let the living bird loose into the open field.

 

Now if you plan to live your life according to rules written by cattle and bird sacrificing primitives that wrote the above and couldn't figure out how to invent a fucking wheelbarrow, your wasted life is indeed well deserved, oh my god i love devout christians.

 

What about the handicapped not being able to approach the Altar of "God?" Stoning disobedient children?

 

Why do people defend this book so much.

SupYouFool;536960']I think this part is fucking hilarious. God doesn't even know how to cure a disease that he created! I guess the best thing we can say about him is that if he does exist, he is more of an underachiever than a fucking downs child, or even Shantt.

 

what makes you think im a underachiever? cause I have a religion? what do you do for a living sir?

What about the handicapped not being able to approach the Altar of "God?" Stoning disobedient children?

 

Why do people defend this book so much.

 

Because people believe the first thing they hear and become upset when exposed to any other view?

 

Shantt, I thought we were arguing about the bible? Whats the matter, out of arguments so you try to make a personal attack? Sorry sir, I am much to apathetic for you.

SupYouFool;536964']Because people believe the first thing they hear and become upset when exposed to any other view?

 

Shantt, I thought we were arguing about the bible? Whats the matter, out of arguments so you try to make a personal attack? Sorry sir, I am much to apathetic for you.

 

1. you made the attack first

2. i wasn't arguing about the bible i was debating if God exists with skankuser1 not you.

I'm still waiting for you to make an argument so I can pick it apart. Hurry the fuck up and stop stalling.

SupYouFool;536967']I'm still waiting for you to make an argument so I can pick it apart. Hurry the fuck up and stop stalling.

 

now your just mad cause you know im right

1. you made the attack first

2. i wasn't arguing about the bible i was debating if God exists with skankuser1 not you.

 

You haven't even made a clear case where it is the Christian "God" that exists. You could start by showing something in the Bible that has been proven empirically.

You haven't even made a clear case where it is the Christian "God" that exists. You could start by showing something in the Bible that has been proven empirically.

 

hey I did say im not defending just one God many times, i dont want to start a religious war now, im just saying God in general, i have respect for other peoples religions.

If you respect other religions, and you are a Christian, and you believe in the bible, then surely you know you are going to hell?

now your just mad cause you know im right

 

What have you been right about? Nothing from what I see. Address my points.

SupYouFool;536971']If you respect other religions' date=' and you are a Christian, and you believe in the bible, then surely you know you are going to hell?[/quote']

 

i have respect for them, as in i dont talk against them or anything, what they believe in is not my business nor do i care

i have respect for them, as in i dont talk against them or anything, what they believe in is not my business nor do i care

 

It goes against your religious beliefs to tolerate it. Your religion teaches you to witness to them because it is in your belief they will burn for eternity in hell.

Deut 13:6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which [is] as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;

13:7 [Namely], of the gods of the people which [are] round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the [one] end of the earth even unto the [other] end of the earth;

13:8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:

13:9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.

 

 

I don't think your god supports "respecting" other religions.

What have you been right about? Nothing from what I see. Address my points.

 

You see the mind works in a weird way, what you see is wrong to you and what i see is right to me, theres nothing I can say or nothing you can say to make it believable by both of us unless we are on the same side. You cant bring back what has not been brought only bring back what has been taken.

Wow you are full of shit, hahaha. The only argument you can make is an argument from personal incredulity. You are amazing.