Posted January 8, 200817 yr Heres the back story. My friend Daniel needed a car, so his bosses (who are really cool and give us money and pot if we ask for it) decided that they would help him find one and even sign for it. They made an oral agreement that all he had to do was keep up with the payments and do his job. So he's been making the payments for about 4 or 5 months (about 250 a month) but today he got fired. He got fired for not doing his job. basically he would work his shift and not clean up after himself that night. Instead he would hang out at work, smoke pot and come in, in the morning and finish cleaning up. He had been caught and warned about this on several occasions. This time the owners were fed up and fired him. So now they want the car back. The owner is the Primary signer on the cars lease. So now my GF (who is the brother of the one who got fired) along with his GF are saying that he should be reimbursed for the payments that he made on the car while it was in his care. Which i got pretty pissed about because its sorta obvious that he SHOULD NOT get any money back. My argument is that it was a favor to Daniel and he was basically paying rent on the vehicle. And since they are the actual legal owners of the car they should be able to do what they want with it and not have to pay him back. So, should he get his money back for the monthly payments he made on the car, even though he broke the oral contract that was given at the time of signing?
January 8, 200817 yr I'm Pete McGraw So now my GF (who is the brother of the one who got fired) that's sick dude! but seriously, lease > oral contract. its their car and an oral contract can't be upheld legally. Ethically it could be argued that they should pay him back but they are under no legal obligation to do so.
January 8, 200817 yr Author that's sick dude! LOL how? Daniel talked to my sister for a while about it (she's not a full on lawyer but knows ALOT about law and studies it and has gone to law school, i think) But i wasnt there so im not sure what she said. Ill ask her tomorrow what she thinks. Edit: And Pete, why would it be ethically right?
January 8, 200817 yr Author Jedi Pimp;537666'] Applying simple logic has exposed Captain Morgan as a fagg0t Captain Morgans GF is a dude. :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: Otherwise his GF would have been the "SISTER" of the the guy who got fired. Fucking cock lover God dammit. :bj::gay3:
January 8, 200817 yr The solution is simple. Off road that bitch until it no longer runs. Return keys to owner, with a brief description of where he can find his car. Deny any knowledge of any oral contract. Find new job.
January 8, 200817 yr The solution is simple. Off road that bitch until it no longer runs. Return keys to owner, with a brief description of where he can find his car. Deny any knowledge of any oral contract. Find new job. beautiful.
January 8, 200817 yr If the owner's name is on the lease, and your friend hasn't signed anything and always paid the owner with cash, then it is pretty much a free ticket to do whatever he wants with that car. Ram it into a parked cop car and leave it there. Park in a red zone and make owner pay impound fees. See how well it floats in a lake. The possibilities are almost endless. No matter what, he is NOT getting any money back. He might as well have a little fun with his ex-boss, and his ex-boss' car while he is at it. EDIT : This is all assuming your friend is smart enough to get away with these things. (meaning if they press charges, cops are going to ask his mommy and daddy/friends/everyone if he has been using the car. If done correctly it could be loads of fun, if done wrong... well tell him to do it and we will see. If he thinks he is getting his money back after driving the car around, then you might not want to encourage any of these ideas. Or maybe you should anyway... get a laugh out of the owner and your friend.
January 8, 200817 yr Heres the back story. My friend Daniel needed a car, so his bosses (who are really cool and give us money and pot if we ask for it) decided that they would help him find one and even sign for it. They made an oral agreement that all he had to do was keep up with the payments and do his job. So he's been making the payments for about 4 or 5 months (about 250 a month) but today he got fired. He got fired for not doing his job. basically he would work his shift and not clean up after himself that night. Instead he would hang out at work, smoke pot and come in, in the morning and finish cleaning up. He had been caught and warned about this on several occasions. This time the owners were fed up and fired him. So now they want the car back. The owner is the Primary signer on the cars lease. So now my GF (who is the brother of the one who got fired) along with his GF are saying that he should be reimbursed for the payments that he made on the car while it was in his care. Which i got pretty pissed about because its sorta obvious that he SHOULD NOT get any money back. My argument is that it was a favor to Daniel and he was basically paying rent on the vehicle. And since they are the actual legal owners of the car they should be able to do what they want with it and not have to pay him back. So, should he get his money back for the monthly payments he made on the car, even though he broke the oral contract that was given at the time of signing? He shouldn't get money back.
