July 29, 200816 yr Myriad;576824']So you're telling me your video card is going to calculate physics? The point of getting a powerful CPU to be ahead of the times. Are you broke? damn dude, just get the PC you want if you think the few frames isn't worth it(on todays games). You can always just upgrade again... wait a sec, you're complaining about some 30$.... Well I'm on a tight budget. I don't want this to exceed $1000. Do you go on Newegg? My list ID is: 11149707. You can observe it and I'd be happy to take any advice, being that you always seemingly prove me wrong in this discussion.
July 29, 200816 yr Myriad;576824']So you're telling me your video card is going to calculate physics? I don't know if cards now do that but yes they can and apparently Intel or Nvidia, I forget who, plans to do all kinds of shit with the gpu and your cpu would do much less work.
July 29, 200816 yr sp0rky;576843']I don't know if cards now do that but yes they can and apparently Intel or Nvidia, I forget who, plans to do all kinds of shit with the gpu and your cpu would do much less work. Nvidia bought Agiea (however you spell it) PhysX, and now it's implemented straight on to the Nvidia cards.
July 30, 200816 yr Great system, i personally would have gone with Intel but thats just me, if it does what you need it to do then more power to you.
July 31, 200816 yr Well now, if I was using an AMD Athlon 64 X2 5400+ and an HD4850, would I encounter a bottleneck?
July 31, 200816 yr Author Well now, if I was using an AMD Athlon 64 X2 5400+ and an HD4850, would I encounter a bottleneck? Yeah, you're going to have a CPU form a few generations back working with a new video card. This will cut the performance down quite a bit. It'll still be nice, but not what you would get with a newer cpu. sp0rky]I don't know if cards now do that but yes they can and apparently Intel or Nvidia, I forget who, plans to do all kinds of shit with the gpu and your cpu would do much less work. They do, but the games don't support its full use, just like the extension card that never picked up for physics. The 4xcore cpu will get full compatibility some time before the gpu/phyX stuff gets it.
August 1, 200816 yr ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ Agree, you can get an amd proc + mobo pretty cheap these days due to the fact they are in the low with intel flooding the market. I remember when intel and amd were neck and neck and i went with amd, bought a s939 4400+ X2 for $450! Now a days its worth shit :tear:
August 1, 200816 yr Myriad;577183']Yeah, you're going to have a CPU form a few generations back working with a new video card. This will cut the performance down quite a bit. It'll still be nice, but not what you would get with a newer cpu. They do, but the games don't support its full use, just like the extension card that never picked up for physics. The 4xcore cpu will get full compatibility some time before the gpu/phyX stuff gets it. I'm convinced enough to want a 9850, yet the only AMD chipsets that support it are the 790's. I don't want more that 1 PCIe x16 slot.
August 1, 200816 yr Author I'm convinced enough to want a 9850, yet the only AMD chipsets that support it are the 790's. I don't want more that 1 PCIe x16 slot. There's the catch, you might not find one. I only have two PCI slots and they are oddly placed between the 4PCIE ones. I only use one PCIE, and one PCI. Most boards come now with BGLan, HD audio, 6+ USB2.0, 6 SATA2, 1 IDE, 1 Floppy ect... The only thing that needs to be added is a video card and maybe an X-Fi sound card.
August 1, 200816 yr Myriad;577326']There's the catch, you might not find one. I only have two PCI slots and they are oddly placed between the 4PCIE ones. I only use one PCIE, and one PCI. Most boards come now with BGLan, HD audio, 6+ USB2.0, 6 SATA2, 1 IDE, 1 Floppy ect... The only thing that needs to be added is a video card and maybe an X-Fi sound card. Maybe I'll actually consider quad graphics XD It's a sad gimmick, really. Waste of money and horrible scalability.
August 1, 200816 yr Author Maybe I'll actually consider quad graphics XD It's a sad gimmick, really. Waste of money and horrible scalability. Unless you're making huge bank there's no point.
August 4, 200816 yr Myriad;577183']Yeah, you're going to have a CPU form a few generations back working with a new video card. This will cut the performance down quite a bit. It'll still be nice, but not what you would get with a newer cpu. What about with a 6000+?
August 5, 200816 yr Author What about with a 6000+? It'll be better, might not give you a huge performance drain and has a decent price at $129. Lets just stack the numbers and see. 6000+ = $129 = 2x3.0ghz = 6ghz 9859 = $249 = 4x2.5ghz = 10ghz so, you gain 4ghz at the cost of $120 and vice versa(I know it does not actually work like that, but its roughly going to be the same on performance) Are you trying to build a budget system? Also, is the motherboard you are getting a full featured("deluxe" mobo)? Because if you're getting an mATX or a chopped version of the full featured ones you might aswell buy mid level everything. If you have the money for quad graphics you should just go with a 9850 and the HD4870 on a $200+ motherboard with everything on it.
August 6, 200816 yr Myriad;578005']It'll be better, might not give you a huge performance drain and has a decent price at $129. Lets just stack the numbers and see. 6000+ = $129 = 2x3.0ghz = 6ghz 9859 = $249 = 4x2.5ghz = 10ghz so, you gain 4ghz at the cost of $120 and vice versa(I know it does not actually work like that, but its roughly going to be the same on performance) Are you trying to build a budget system? Also, is the motherboard you are getting a full featured("deluxe" mobo)? Because if you're getting an mATX or a chopped version of the full featured ones you might aswell buy mid level everything. If you have the money for quad graphics you should just go with a 9850 and the HD4870 on a $200+ motherboard with everything on it. I'm not trying to build a SUPER BUDGET RIG but I want it kept under $1K. I'm planning to stick with a dual core and wait until AMD's 45nm's come out (because 45nm owns), or a Phenom when quads start being taken advantage of. What I'm planning for the config to be: CPU: AMD X2 5600+ (it's only 5% slower than the 6000 and it's 65nm, so it will draw less power.) Mobo: MSI K9A2 Platinum GFX Card: Sapphire HD4850 RAM: Mushkin 2GB DDR2 800 HDD: WD 500GB SATA PSU: Antec 650W Tell me what you think. This will be my first custom build. Edited August 6, 200816 yr by em_snwo_t0gym
August 6, 200816 yr Myriad;575356']Been shopping at the same place for 8 years. Built 100's of computers through them. I buy direct from the warehouse and get reward points through their retailer. I spent my reward points and got a birthday present from them. That's why this system was so cheap. Where is it that you shop at? I see Newegg as the best place to buy computer parts.
August 6, 200816 yr Author Where is it that you shop at? I see Newegg as the best place to buy computer parts. Your moms backdoor.
August 6, 200816 yr heres the new build i am doing and will have done by the end of the month.. 3.0 Core 2 Quad Extreme 4 gigs of dd2 1066 EVGA 750i mobo EVGA GTX 280 Superclocked Edition (1gb of video ram and its a dual core!) 150g Raptor 10k drive 500g SATA 2.0 Drive Vista Home Premium / Linux
August 6, 200816 yr Author heres the new build i am doing and will have done by the end of the month.. 3.0 Core 2 Quad Extreme 4 gigs of dd2 1066 EVGA 750i mobo EVGA GTX 280 Superclocked Edition (1gb of video ram and its a dual core!) 150g Raptor 10k drive 500g SATA 2.0 Drive Vista Home Premium / Linux The system will prolly be fine, but it will suck because its Intel/nvidia. And don't buy vista home, just get ultimate or don't get it at all.
August 6, 200816 yr Myriad;573065'] Its running great' date=' all games I have are running at max settings and even some old ones look alot better.[/quote'] If it works for what you need, thats all that matters! PS: Intel + Nvidia >>>>> AMD/ATI and the reason i am using home premium is cause i got a copy left over from a previous build. :happysad:
September 1, 200816 yr Okay, I'm definitely going AMD now. 5200+ and 4670 ftw. Edited November 2, 200816 yr by [myg0t]ph0ne
October 17, 200816 yr lol AMD sucks lol seriously, why the fuck would you ever purchase one of those AMD quad cores if you just use your rig for gaming? you would have to be retarded
October 17, 200816 yr Seems rather nice, m3n resolution on the screen, I regret buying my 19" lcd now since i can't go over 1440x900 which SUCKS ASS, especially when i'm doing work on my computer. on my last monitor i always at least used 1600x1200 but that old ass POS gave me epilepsia aswell. Something i thought of though was why did you buy 4 1gb memory sticks instead of 2gb sticks? Was it cheaper or something? Just curious, I can't be arsed to know shit about hardware performance these days, i'm not the nerd i used to be. Nice with the DVI-cables. I didn't even get one, just an adapter to convert it for my gfx.... Bought an HDMI->DVI for my TV the other day aswell, those fuckers are expensive as hell.
October 18, 200816 yr Author Although this is getting pretty old I'll answer your question r0k. I got the ram as 4x1gb cuz of the specific deal I got with that. If I could have saved the same amount of money from the 4x2gb I would have. But I'm still running XP on this system. And it only recognizes 3gb. No used getting 8 yet. Also, to russell, don't bump old threads with your giberish speak. Your PC is a dinosaur therefor your comments don't mean shit(again). I'm getting 200+ fps on any Steam game at any time with max settings and resolution. I also get 100+ on crysis and R6V2 at all times. Suck my balls.
