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THE NICK BERG conspiracy!

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I'm sure by now most of everyone knows about the Nick Berg beheading video. However there are quite a bit of unasnwered questions and details which lead me to believe that there is some kind of government conspiracy or a coverup. The execution appears to have actually happened in the Abu Ghraib prison, known mainly for the scandal that has rocked much of the world and has proven to be detrimental in Bush's approval rating.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040515/ts_alt_afp/us_iraq_vote_poll_040515180851

 

Origins:

 

This video become public knowlege on May 11, 2004 while it spread across the internet. International news coverage of the gresome beheading of the Jewish-American Nick Berg born in West Chester, Pennsylvania was shown to millions of people around the world, the actual beheading was not shown on tv however.

 

The video that was spread across the internet aparently started from http://www.al-ansar.biz. The website has been taken offline due to excessive bandwith usage, but it would of been taken down anyway due to the terroristic ties. What is amazing is that no muslim news agencies reported the beheading first. The story seemed to come somewhere in America. "Aljazeera.net looked at the site within 90 minutes of the story breaking – and could find no such video footage. But Fox News, CNN and the BBC were all able to download the footage from the Arabic-only website and report the story within the hour." (Aljazeera.net)

 

The Chair:

 

The chair seen in the video is ordinary at first, however, what most people don't see is that the chair in the video is EXACTLY the same as the one Lynndie England is sitting in during a picture that has been leaked to the public. Another chair is shown in a hallway picture of Abu Graib.

 

http://www.holocausthumanity.com/berg/berg1.jpg

http://www.holocausthumanity.com/berg/chair.jpg

http://www.holocausthumanity.com/berg/chair2.jpg

 

The yellow walls:

http://news.globalfreepress.com/movs/wonk/CBS/60Min/60MinII.US.IraqiTortured.01.jpg

The walls in Abu Ghraib prison and in the background of this video tape seems to me that this video clip was indeed shot in this prison, or a different prison. How many prisons in iraq are under islamic extremists?

 

None, the US controls all of them.

 

The Orange Prison Uniform:

http://marc.perkel.com/images/orangegarb.jpg

Nick is wearing an orange jumpsuit, like the kind our capital offenders wear. Now isn't it a slight bit odd that these Iraqi militants would have Nick wear it?

 

The ring:

 

It is not noticible to some, but watching the video tape one can see a flash on "Al-Zarqawi"'s right hand, aparantly from a marriage ring on his ring finger. This is strictly a western cultural practice, and wearing a ring is forbidden by the teachings of islam. Why would an islamic fundamentalist be endorsing western culture?

http://www.khilafah.com/home/category.php?DocumentID=9529&TagID=2

 

Accent:

Al-Zarqawi, the speaker, apparently has trouble speaking correct arabic. It has been reported that the Zarqawi is speaking with an iranian and possibly a little russian accent.

 

Al-Zarqawi alive and well?:

As reported a month ago, Al-Zarqawi apparently died as iraqi militants have said.

 

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A Jordanian extremist suspected of bloody suicide attacks in Iraq was killed some time ago in U.S. bombing and a letter outlining plans for fomenting sectarian war is a forgery, a statement allegedly from an insurgent group west of the capital said.

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4446084/

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/05/iraq/main604191.shtml

 

What is also interesting to note is that Al-Zarqawi had an artificial leg. If he indeed did live past the US bombings then how does he move around just like a normal person in the video? Unless the person in the video is not Al-Zarqawi.

 

So why the mask?

As seen in the video all of the terrorists are wearing scarves covering their faces to protect their identities. If they were protecting their identities then why did Al-Zarqawi identify him self orally in the video?

 

Berg killed before beheading?

 

The video has a time stamp that changes three times during the clip. First we see nick talking, naming his mother, father, sister, and brother.

The timestamp on the video changes from 2:18:43 to 2:40:33. This seems normal.

 

In the video you can see Nick slowly moving his shoulders side to side, but why didn't Nick try and flee the scene. I know he is hand cuffed, but he could of tried his hardest to flee the scene. Getting shot is a much better death than being beheaded by a dull knife. Unless of course Nick had no knowlege of the terrorists' plan to decapitate him. Even still Nick did not move much during the 3 or 4 minute speech, which leads me to believe that he was sedated during the speech.

 

Now probably the most interesting part of this video is that the time changes from 2:44:43 immediately to 13:45:17. Thats a mere 11 hour difference. Just before the time changes to the 13th hour Al-Zarqawi pulls out a giant seraded knife, which he will use to cut off Nick's head. Zarqawi grabs Nick's short hair and pulls him to his side, the time now switches to 13:45:17 and Zarqawi cuts off Nicks head.

 

Now what could those iraqi militants due in a span of 11 hours? Pretty sure they could kill Nick and get ready to start shooting again. Why would they kill Nick? Well to make it easier to cut off his head apparently.

 

No blood?

As one watches the video clip there should be quite a lot of blood being spewed out from Nicks head after the decaptitaion. Since he could of died hours earlier, the blood can coagulate and therefore there would not be much blood dripping.

 

The amount of blood being lost is not consistant with a decaptition. The head is highly vascular, capable of holding a gallon of blood. There should of been more blood spewing from him, unless he died earlier.

 

Berg's Company:

Nick Berg worked for a company called Prometheus Methods Tower Services Inc. However searches for that company turned up with no results. The company does not simply exsist legally.

 

"Companies are not legally required to register with the state, but McDonald explained it is usually the first step an owner takes."

 

"You’d be very foolish not to register your business with the department," he said. "It is nearly impossible to exist without doing it."

 

http://www.dailylocal.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=11650247&BRD=1671&PAG=461&dept_id=17782&rfi=6

 

Password sharing:

It has been reported that Nick Berg shared his email password to someone who in turn gave it to Moussaoui, one of the terrorists responsible for the World Trade Center attacks.

 

"Someone [on the bus] asked to use his computer. College kids do that all the time. It turned out that this guy was a terrorist and he used my son's e-mail, amongst many other students he did that to," said the senior Berg

 

http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/20901.htm

 

The Daniel Pearl Link:

The terrorist who killed Pearl was wearing a ring on the ring finger of the right hand.

http://marc.perkel.com/images/pearl.jpg

 

There is still a lot to be uncovered with this and I'm absolutely certain something MAJOR will come from it. I find it amazing how the CIA has so quickly identified that the voice in the video IS Zarqawi, when CNN and others report it is not.

 

Government Conspiracy? Bush responsible for Nick's death?

 

Right now I'm tired from writing...

 

Some other good threads.

 

http://www.holocausthumanity.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=32

http://marc.perkel.com/archives/000233.html

http://www.genmay.net/showthread.php?t=354134

good find but..

 

 

the chair i have like 10 of those for outside its a common cheap chair...

 

 

the blood... there was tons of blood on floor if u see...

 

 

 

the walls.. alot of stuff looks the same painted the same desiged the same in the US also.. also in bagdhad

People will do anything for some publicity, thats why theres a conspiricy theory for every goddamn thing that ever happened, even me taking a shit an hour ago.

Andddddddddddddddddddd......

 

 

Just days later , UFO's were spotted Over Mexico !!!! Obviously a ploy by Cheney to divert your attention from the CIA's mistakes in the execution

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Andddddddddddddddddddd......

 

 

Just days later , UFO's were spotted Over Mexico !!!! Obviously a ploy by Cheney to divert your attention from the CIA's mistakes in the execution

 

Indeed, that was pretty odd..

The orange suit was suppose to resemble the one iraqis are given in prison because this was a retaliation killing for the prisoner abuse. If a white chair and yellow walls are the best evidence of a "conspiracy", then this is a waste. None of the evidence points towards Bush/USA and is justified in the article only through broad assumptions.

 

 

The whole business thing does seem kind of odd. Maybe it was a CIA front company? There are so many conflicting reports that he was jailed/not jailed and supposedly he was offered a flight out of the country and not only denied that, but didnt want any of his family contacted with his whereabouts.

 

 

 

-ch3f

Techno_Warrior']I pointed most of these ideas out last week.

The video is faked, there is a bigger story behind this that involves the CIA.

 

 

keep thinking that

I'd check some of those things out, but I don't wanna watch that fucking video again. I feel sorry for that poor guy.

i watched this video about 10 times trying to figure out if it was fake or not. one thing that intrigued me was the part where the camera goes all blurry and you just here scruffling. when the camera comes back into focus, berg is on the ground and the knife is already in his throat (unless i am mistaken). the time that the camera was scruffling is by far enough time to just point to another place in the room to some dummy (that is my opinion).

 

a user on this forum had a gif of a man being beheaded in a snowy forest; that was by far the best video of a beheading i have ever seen, there are no cuts, no blurs, no fuck all. for you dumbasses, im not saying i jack off to this shit or anything, this shit doesnt turn me on but it doesnt make me sick. i couldnt care less who the fuck gets a knife in his throat, he probably deserved it, but back to the point. the angles of the berg beheading suck, im sure that there would not be just blood at a beheading (im sure there would be some vomit or something;;refer to the other beheading vid;;) Anyways, i give this a 50% chance of being real and a 50% chance of being fake (obviously in a way if the camera man screwed up and it was real you cant really start over again)

 

flame me, share you opinion, i dont care rofl.

How the fuck did they come to the conclusion that he was dead before he was beheaded, if you watch it again, and look at his facial expressions. They change into a grimace of pain. I'm sure he would fucking re-act to pain if he was already dead.
FAKER YOU HAVE A GOOD POINT, BUT THE QUALITY OF THE OGRISH VIDEO OF IT IS SO SHITTY I CANT EVEN SEE ANYTHING IN DETAIL. ALOT OF VALID POINTS IN THE ARGUMENT ABOUT THIS BEING A CONSPIRACY, BUT UNTIL I GET A BETTER QUALITY VID IDUNNO. OH CAPS SORRI! FORGIVE ME!
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The orange suit was suppose to resemble the one iraqis are given in prison because this was a retaliation killing for the prisoner abuse. If a white chair and yellow walls are the best evidence of a "conspiracy", then this is a waste. None of the evidence points towards Bush/USA and is justified in the article only through broad assumptions.

-ch3f

 

I remember reading somewhere, I can't remember where, that there is no relation between the prison scandal and the beheading of Nick Berg. It was because of a bad translation that spread this infrormation. I will try and find the article though.

 

There is even more troubling information about if Berg was held by the CIA in Iraq or not.

 

http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/8669957.htm

http://www.timesdaily.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040513/APA/405130871

 

This doesn't seem to be an ordinary conspiracy, but rather something bigger.

gg i actually read the whole thing, i found it quite funny :) but brings questions up, one more reason i hate us government.

how about nick berg was beheaded by al qaeda because they are subhuman and that is their MO. end of conspiracy.

 

sometimes i wonder if these arabs are too primative and really need to be lead by a tyrrant untill they evolve socially. just like john mills said, i guess he did have a point.

how is it fake? I mean I watched it last night, and that dudes head comes right off.

You, my friend, are an idiot.

i watched this video about 10 times trying to figure out if it was fake or not. one thing that intrigued me was the part where the camera goes all blurry and you just here scruffling. when the camera comes back into focus, berg is on the ground and the knife is already in his throat (unless i am mistaken). the time that the camera was scruffling is by far enough time to just point to another place in the room to some dummy (that is my opinion).

 

a user on this forum had a gif of a man being beheaded in a snowy forest; that was by far the best video of a beheading i have ever seen, there are no cuts, no blurs, no fuck all. for you dumbasses, im not saying i jack off to this shit or anything, this shit doesnt turn me on but it doesnt make me sick. i couldnt care less who the fuck gets a knife in his throat, he probably deserved it, but back to the point. the angles of the berg beheading suck, im sure that there would not be just blood at a beheading (im sure there would be some vomit or something;;refer to the other beheading vid;;) Anyways, i give this a 50% chance of being real and a 50% chance of being fake (obviously in a way if the camera man screwed up and it was real you cant really start over again)

 

flame me, share you opinion, i dont care rofl.

FLAME ON

Ok, you cant blame the fucking ragheads for not being good with a camera. DO you think you would be all cool and calm if you were filming some guy getting his head chopped off. besides, people are moving around, crowding around him, trying to get a peice of the decadent american flesh to like bring home to their poor wido kids or whatever. If you really want, you can call the fucking sand negros yourself and ask them to reshoot it or something. go die.

Ok, you cant blame the fucking ragheads for not being good with a camera.

 

Yes i can.

 

DO you think you would be all cool and calm if you were filming some guy getting his head chopped off.

 

I would.

 

besides, people are moving around, crowding around him, trying to get a peice of the decadent american flesh to like bring home to their poor wido kids or whatever.

 

theres less then 8 people in that room.

 

If you really want, you can call the fucking sand negros yourself and ask them to reshoot it or something.

 

If they knew another jewish american i would call them up right now.

 

go die.

 

 

funfun.

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i was only pointing how stupid and moronic everything you say was.

quoted from bushs state of the union speech in 2003

 

 

""All told, more than 3,000 suspected terrorists have been arrested in many countries. And many others have met a different fate. Let's put it this way: They are no longer a problem to the United States and our friends and allies. ""

 

well atleast we know what he means with "different fate"

 

 

 

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread50025/pg1

 

here is a really good site analzing the video

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