Posted August 30, 200816 yr This is a real long post I know this is not the best place to get help but anyways I pretty much picked random hardware, and now I need to get a motherboard and I am confused as to which one I should get. I am looking for an AMD motherboard that supports quad cores and (maybe) SLI for a nvidia card. As long as it can last a long time I can live with it and it does not give any problems. My budget is $700 flat. I am looking for something that is in the $100 range ($85 is all i have without rebates, 105$ with rebate). If there are motherboards more than $100 range I can switch out/in items. My grand total comes out to $615 without motherboard... I chose some of the items because they had free shipping and they were less expensive than the cheap ones with shipping LOL. Here are the items if you are interest in looking at them. I know absolutely jack shit about building computers, except I know a little bit about upgrading RAM. ASUS Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model DVD-E818A/A6/QT_B+W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135160 RAIDMAX xB ATX-528B Black SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156053 Creative Sound Blaster SB0570 Audigy SE 7.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102002 EVGA 512-P3-N801-AR GeForce 8800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130318 AMD Phenom 9850 BLACK EDITION 2.5GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 2MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Processor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103249 SAMSUNG Spinpoint F1 HD502lJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152098 Kingston 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Desktop Memory - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134632 Antec EA650 650W ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V version 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371015 Rosewill RC-400 10/ 100/ 1000Mbps PCI V2.2, 32/64-bit, 33/66MHz Networking LAN Card With Heatsink & 4 LED indicators - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166002 is this an ok motherboard: ECS A780GM-A AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135075 I am open to all suggestions, thank you for your time and knowledge if you decide to take a look at this post
August 30, 200816 yr Author http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131320 I found a mother board now, it should work. (delete thread thx)
August 30, 200816 yr Good motherboard, but always go with a full featured one that has everything on it. Those chopped versions suck.
September 1, 200816 yr Get the Gigabyte 790GX motherboard. You'll get the best performance out of your Phenom being that it has the SB750 southbridge. And don't buy an ASUS. They're trash. I've heard tons of problems that they've had.
September 1, 200816 yr I would suggesting waiting a while if you can to build a computer. Once Intel i7 comes out, everything else will be blown out of the water. The chips get 30% better performance clock to clock. This means an i7 Bloomfield core clocked at 2.66 GHz will outperform every single processor on the market right now. The Nehalem microarcitecture is amazing. With the return of hyperthreading (a great way to improve performance without upping power consumption), you will have 4 cores and 8 threads to carry out your processes. The mainstream chips for this will be out by the middle of next year. I would stay away from AMD. AMD is really getting their shit kicked in at this time. The Phenom you have selected gets severely outperformed by Wolfdale Core 2 Duo chips in gaming applications. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037 I would consider going with that processor and a P35 chipset to go with it if you plan on buying right now. I would go with an ATI card, since you are in the mainstream market. The $$/performance ratio is much higher than Nvidia cards in the mainstream market. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121253 You really can't beat the $$/performance ratio of this card right now. The alternative is to go with a 9800 GT card or 9800 GTX+ card since the prices on those have really dropped since the release of this ATI card. The price on a 9800 GT would be about $10 more than the card you have right now Edited September 1, 200816 yr by Russell_Crowe
September 1, 200816 yr Russell_Crowe said: I would suggesting waiting a while if you can to build a computer. Once Intel i7 comes out, everything else will be blown out of the water. The chips get 30% better performance clock to clock. This means an i7 Bloomfield core clocked at 2.66 GHz will outperform every single processor on the market right now. The Nehalem microarcitecture is amazing. With the return of hyperthreading (a great way to improve performance without upping power consumption), you will have 4 cores and 8 threads to carry out your processes. The mainstream chips for this will be out by the middle of next year. I would stay away from AMD. AMD is really getting their shit kicked in at this time. The Phenom you have selected gets severely outperformed by Wolfdale Core 2 Duo chips in gaming applications. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037 I would consider going with that processor and a P35 chipset to go with it if you plan on buying right now. I would go with an ATI card, since you are in the mainstream market. The $$/performance ratio is much higher than Nvidia cards in the mainstream market. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121253 You really can't beat the $$/performance ratio of this card right now. The alternative is to go with a 9800 GT card or 9800 GTX+ card since the prices on those have really dropped since the release of this ATI card. The price on a 9800 GT would be about $10 more than the card you have right now When you go AMD, you save money. I think he said that his budget as 700 dollars.
September 2, 200816 yr _ph0ne_ANGRI said: When you go AMD, you save money. I think he said that his budget as 700 dollars. That's complete bullshit. The processor I linked is cheaper than the one he has and will get better gaming performance. The only thing AMD does is give you cheap quad-cores. However, they have poor performance compared to intel chips. It is fine to be cheap. However, you have to look at efficiency. Being efficient with your money is a lot better than being cheap with it. Does that AMD processor cost too much for the performance it gives? Yes. That means it is inefficient. Edited September 2, 200816 yr by Russell_Crowe
September 2, 200816 yr Russell_Crowe said: That's complete bullshit. The processor I linked is cheaper than the one he has and will get better gaming performance. The only thing AMD does is give you cheap quad-cores. However, they have poor performance compared to intel chips. It is fine to be cheap. However, you have to look at efficiency. Being efficient with your money is a lot better than being cheap with it. Does that AMD processor cost too much for the performance it gives? Yes. That means it is inefficient. At least he'll have a good motherboard for when AMD's 45nm's come out. Even though they will be AM3, they will work with AM2+. You just don't get to use DDR3. I'd go with a Phenom 9550 or an Athlon 64 X2 6000+.
September 2, 200816 yr _ph0ne_ANGRI said: At least he'll have a good motherboard for when AMD's 45nm's come out. Even though they will be AM3, they will work with AM2+. You just don't get to use DDR3. I'd go with a Phenom 9550 or an Athlon 64 X2 6000+. You don't buy the die shrink models unless you have the money to buy a new rig after every cycle. It is more efficient to buy the new microarchitecture models because the performance increase is usually greater than the die shrink. The die shrink will add low teens in performance percentage at the most, where as changing the microarchitecture can yield performance increases of 20%+. This means your setup will be competitive with all the other setups for longer if you buy the new microarchitecture compared to if you buy the die shrink. As I said before, AMD is almost a year behind. The only thing they have going for them is that they make the best chipsets in the world. However, this gets outshined because the performance of the chips that they offer is disappointing. I would stay away from AMD for the time being because you will very likely get better performance for your $ with Intel. If you are just making a rig for gaming, go with a Core 2 Duo Wolfdale processor. There is not a better gaming processor in the world right now than the E8500, with the E8400 being the more budget friendly model.
September 2, 200816 yr Russell_Crowe said: You don't buy the die shrink models unless you have the money to buy a new rig after every cycle. It is more efficient to buy the new microarchitecture models because the performance increase is usually greater than the die shrink. The die shrink will add low teens in performance percentage at the most, where as changing the microarchitecture can yield performance increases of 20%+. This means your setup will be competitive with all the other setups for longer if you buy the new microarchitecture compared to if you buy the die shrink. As I said before, AMD is almost a year behind. The only thing they have going for them is that they make the best chipsets in the world. However, this gets outshined because the performance of the chips that they offer is disappointing. I would stay away from AMD for the time being because you will very likely get better performance for your $ with Intel. If you are just making a rig for gaming, go with a Core 2 Duo Wolfdale processor. There is not a better gaming processor in the world right now than the E8500, with the E8400 being the more budget friendly model. How about the AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+? That's 66 dollars on Newegg and gives AWESOME performance for a budget build.
September 3, 200816 yr _ph0ne_ANGRI said: How about the AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+? That's 66 dollars on Newegg and gives AWESOME performance for a budget build. ... That shit is so old. Why do you have such a hardon for AMD? AMD is complete trash right now. That processor doesn't give AWESOME performance. It gives low end performance because it is OLD AS SHIT TECHNOLOGY.
September 3, 200816 yr Russell_Crowe said: ... That shit is so old. Why do you have such a hardon for AMD? AMD is complete trash right now. That processor doesn't give AWESOME performance. It gives low end performance because it is OLD AS SHIT TECHNOLOGY. Where's your new pc? Edit : This is his response : Russell_Crowe • hey [myg0t]myriad go fuck yourself nigga Edited September 3, 200816 yr by Myriad
September 3, 200816 yr Quote Myriad;583021']Where's your new pc? Edit : This is his response : Russell_Crowe • hey [myg0t]myriad go fuck yourself nigga some of us don't live with our parents
September 3, 200816 yr Russell_Crowe said: ... That shit is so old. Why do you have such a hardon for AMD? AMD is complete trash right now. That processor doesn't give AWESOME performance. It gives low end performance because it is OLD AS SHIT TECHNOLOGY. It's cheap and it's fast for its price. Something that can't be said about Intel. And it's NOT old technology. It's the 65nm Brisbane core, which is fairly new compared to the power-hog 90nm Windsor core. Edited September 11, 200816 yr by [myg0t]ph0ne
September 4, 200816 yr me and my friend bought an e8400 wofldales and they are blazing. just amazing for 160 bucks i've had a amd 3500+, it was fine while it lasted. no problems, really. i dont mind either company
September 5, 200816 yr turtles said: me and my friend bought an e8400 wofldales and they are blazing. just amazing for 160 bucks i've had a amd 3500+, it was fine while it lasted. no problems, really. i dont mind either company Awesome. I'm staying on the budget end, however.
