February 26, 200916 yr n00b4life said: The second amendment was added by certain states because they feared a dictatorship. After beating the King of England what a bitch it would be to fight the king of America? 1. Although people say people who own guns kill just look at the statics, most people who do the killings use illegal guns. 2. Those who do kill each other with legal guns tend to be ill-fit for a gun IE. children using there parents guns. This could be solved by simply separating the ammo from the firearm, or putting a trigger lock on the device. If you do not take those precautions then you are an irresponsible parent who is ill-fir for gun ownership. With great power comes great responsibility. 3.Someone talked about Mexican drug cartels buying guns from the US and sneaking them across the boarder? It is a citizens right to buy a gun there for you must be a citizen of the U.S to buy guns. You should produce information at the purchasing of the gun proving your a citizen. It might be a hassle but that is called national security. Having the system online is even better because then the goverment can track the weapons movements to see who selling what to whom. Also make stiff penalties for those who do not obey. Gun ownership is a right which should not be abused. 4. Ever more fear of nationalization is upon the US. As government more and more divulges into private affairs while accumulating debt, it is not hard to see the future. High taxes and little service is our future. As the government prepares a division of "civil protection" forces who will protect us? Already on border states people have resorted to defending there own property because of drug cartels and immigrants destroying there property. The border patrol is overwhelmed and the current administration has made no move to help the situation fearing losing votes to illegal-immigrate rights groups. Instead of reform they choose to ignore the problem. 5. These people need to not only defend themselves from the immigrants but also from the government because now the government is giving rights to illegal-immigrants who are hurt while trespassing and destroying property. They can even sue and win. The government has turned there back on them and now they are all alone. How long will they put up for this? How long until we are all in the same situation? Some people say a french civil war is on the way. You make some good points and they are completely valid. This is why it's such a fucking pain in the ass topic. Both sides make sense and I guess both groups will have to come to some sort of compromise. Something like I stated above. It might just never end and the laws won't change much, thats what I suspect. Maybe a civil war is coming but let me tell you, Im the fuck out of here when it starts. CANADA HOOOOO
February 26, 200916 yr leadbelly said: Nice one Miller. Yeah, we obviously can't take the guns away. That's too far of a stretch. However, you can make bullets a bigger pain in the ass to purchase. Let people buy their guns. I know many people who love to collect and I'm sure if I had more money, I might own a lot more. I know America is capable of creating a fucking mess of anything involving paperwork and I'm pretty sure that creating some sort of pre-requisite to buy bullets might help the current situation out. I don't know though, I'm not really educated on this subject. What do you think Miller? Would you be willing to sacrifice some time to pass some kind of test to be able to own and purchase ammunition? I understand that what I'm saying has many holes in it but you understand the basic idea. Let people own guns! Not bullets! If you need to defend yourself, buy some sort of non-lethal ammunition. rubber bullets? I'm fine with a test... as long as you mean a one time thing, and not every time you want to buy ammo. Ammo prices are already through the roof, I don't support making ammo any more expensive or adding additional taxes to it. Doing so would really be screwing hunters and target shooters. I don't hunt, but I love target shooting. Especially handgun ammo is going up... prices are outrageous... 9mm is about the only caliber that is still reasonable. There is mass hysteria going on right now... I'm glad I have a pretty healthy supply for all of my calibers. From one of my usual suppliers front pages... (cheaperthandirt.com) http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/4083/keepandbear.th.jpg And one of the other places I order from.. sportsmansguide.com.. has like 80 percent of their shit on backorder. I have never seen anything like this before. Edited February 26, 200916 yr by MillerTime
February 26, 200916 yr Dr. House said: Wow, I had no idea that was the case. To be honest, I'm not really that up to date on the whole gun control situation. All I know is that it pisses me off just how often I'm in the ER at night and there's people rushed in with a gunshot wound and multiple organ injuries. I guess I shouldn't be too surprised though. I think Jedi_Pimp posted a video on here a while back about how easy it was to obtain fully automatic weapons in Kentucky. I thought it was pretty ridiculous how they made it seem like you can practically own anything in that state. Not that, of course, Kentucky is a state with a lot of general thuggery...
February 26, 200916 yr I lol at anti gun people cause they are the same people who support importing thirld world niggers and their crime.
February 26, 200916 yr Eric Sermon said: Not that, of course, Kentucky is a state with a lot of general thuggery... I hope your not referring to knob creek... The country's largest machine gun shoot. Probably only about 20% of those people are actually from Kentucky. People come from all over America to go there. I have been there once and I don't live in Kentucky. It's amazing. The drill sergeant from Full Metal Jacket usually goes there as well. To get a fully automatic weapon, you have to be rich and have the rap sheet of mother teresa. You basically have to pay thousands and thousands of dollars in fees for the license, go through an extensive screening process, fill out an entire forest worth of trees in paperwork, give the government permission to search your home whenever they want for no reason, and then after all that the full auto guns themselves are between 10-90,000 dollars or more. To buy an ordinary firearm (bolt-action, pump, revolver, pistol, lever-action, semi-automatic etc.). The requirement is no felony convictions, no domestic violence instances, a citizen, and no serious mental illnesses. To get a permit for a full-auto, you can't have much more than a parking ticket or two on your record. Edited February 26, 200916 yr by MillerTime
February 26, 200916 yr MillerTime said: I hope your not referring to knob creek... This isn't what I meant. I meant that usually it's the black, latino, asian or wigger gangs who usually are the ones with illegal guns. Kentucky isn't exactly known for its gangster mentality. At least the rednecks buy their guns legally. The gangs, IMO, are the biggest part of the problem. The idiots who hold their guns sideways in their hands when they try to shoot and miss at point-blank range. They are the problem in our society, not the legally bought guns.
February 26, 200916 yr Eric Sermon said: I meant that usually it's the black, latino, asian or wigger gangs so, you mean gangs in general? because i havent heard of any "wigger" or indian gangs
February 27, 200916 yr I still need to finish my AMD65 before the shit hits the fan! http://www.imagebee.net/images/o71xghr62g6xze95dy.jpg Copes had these parts kits with all matching parts and in perfect condition for 299.00 Now with some new law they are required to cut the barrel too so that really sucks if you want to build an AK from parts. http://redhotgundeals.com/first.jpg http://www.croatianforces.org.uk/IMG_4779.jpg This is what it will look like when finished.
February 27, 200916 yr carwash said: http://www.imagebee.net/images/o71xghr62g6xze95dy.jpg Alcohol and guns, way to go, faggot.
February 27, 200916 yr Take away all bullets and replace with paint balls. seriously though, people kill people, and if not with guns than with some other type of instrument, like a flute or a guitar. The person who did the crime is responsible not the fucking gun that sits there and is only depended on a user. The US does need stricter laws for obtaining a gun but, If you have no record of violence and you just want a gun because it looks cool or you like hunting i see nothing wrong with that.
February 27, 200916 yr J3bus said: Take away all bullets and replace with paint balls. seriously though, people kill people, and if not with guns than with some other type of instrument, like a flute or a guitar. The person who did the crime is responsible not the fucking gun that sits there and is only depended on a user. The US does need stricter laws for obtaining a gun but, If you have no record of violence and you just want a gun because it looks cool or you like hunting i see nothing wrong with that. Try telling that to the liberals, they want all guns taken away and replace withe dildos. Vibrating if possible.
February 27, 200916 yr i wonder what KNOB CREEK would have to say about this? you take their guns away from them and you'll have a war.......the end bitches.
February 27, 200916 yr Quote BUTT_PLUG;612282']i wonder what KNOB CREEK would have to say about this? you take their guns away from them and you'll have a war.......the end bitches. Not much of one since they would have no guns. :)
February 27, 200916 yr This isn't a 'post your gun and shit alcohol' thread. gtfo and at least put some input.
February 27, 200916 yr Quote BUTT_PLUG;612282']i wonder what KNOB CREEK would have to say about this? you take their guns away from them and you'll have a war.......the end bitches. You know what is even crazier about knob creek? The waiting list to get your own main spot on the firing line is 10-15 years. I thought it was awesome there and you get to see and shoot a lot of cool shit... But it's expensive as hell... It was like 80 dollars to shoot a full belt from the m60 it's awesome as hell, but its over in like less than a minute... and it's probably more than double that now with how much ammo prices have gone up. I made 74k last year (with tons of overtime) and i'm still not gonna be shooting nearly as much with the increase in ammo prices. And also because in the summertime I was working 12 hours a day, and 3 saturdays a month. Now, I'm lucky to finish a 40 hour week and worried about losing my job... Happened almost overnight so i'm watching my spending. Edited February 28, 200916 yr by MillerTime
February 28, 200916 yr http://members.cox.net/polincorr1/image/mlm16.jpg Nobody is taking my fucking guns. :madfawk:
February 28, 200916 yr I currently live in Louisville, KY, previously in Lexington, KY. From both of the two largest cities in the state, possibly the most redneck state apart from Flordia, I can tell you for a fact you can buy any weapon here you want, whether it be explosives, fully or semi-automatic handguns and rifles. Also, we have militias out the ass, so much so that if they combined it would greatly out number state law enforcement (many of them are illegal though well-known). Now, please accept my apology for posting in this obvious troll thread, but I was bored and waiting on my wife to finish doing her hair so we can leave the house.
February 28, 200916 yr Quote SourceX;612452']I currently live in Louisville, KY, previously in Lexington, KY. From both of the two largest cities in the state, possibly the most redneck state apart from Flordia, I can tell you for a fact you can buy any weapon here you want, whether it be explosives, fully or semi-automatic handguns and rifles. Also, we have militias out the ass, so much so that if they combined it would greatly out number state law enforcement (many of them are illegal though well-known). Now, please accept my apology for posting in this obvious troll thread, but I was bored and waiting on my wife to finish doing her hair so we can leave the house. That may be true. They may be available, but they are still not sold LEGALLY. Kentucky is kind of redneck, but it's not a bad place. I live in northeast ohio (near cleveland). And I can't believe how different it is just driving a few hours or a couple hundred miles south into ohio's bordering states of kentucky and west virginia, from the people to the mountains. Because where I live, it's as flat as a fucking board.
March 6, 200916 yr Author Quote SourceX;612452']I currently live in Louisville, KY, previously in Lexington, KY. From both of the two largest cities in the state, possibly the most redneck state apart from Flordia, I can tell you for a fact you can buy any weapon here you want, whether it be explosives, fully or semi-automatic handguns and rifles. Also, we have militias out the ass, so much so that if they combined it would greatly out number state law enforcement (many of them are illegal though well-known). Now, please accept my apology for posting in this obvious troll thread, but I was bored and waiting on my wife to finish doing her hair so we can leave the house. This would be scary to know and I would not want to live in an area with active militias. It sounds too similar to a mob. These "militias" might decide that they don't agree with certain ideas or people and assault or harass them. And while gun laws currently differ from state to state, automatic weapons are dangerous and unnecessary. Only one shot is needed to wound a house intruder. Automatic weapons are intended for mass murdering and war, not protection. England has outlaws all guns and even in the most dangerous parts of London gun crime is all but eliminated. Instead it is replaced with knife crime, but that is not as deadly and less criminals are willing to be that brutal. I am also offended that you consider this a troll thread. Although I did try to brighten up the topic with humorous pictures and witty quips throughout my essay, I am serious in my opinion and intentions.
March 6, 200916 yr John_Winthrop said: This would be scary to know and I would not want to live in an area with active militias. It sounds too similar to a mob. These "militias" might decide that they don't agree with certain ideas or people and assault or harass them. And while gun laws currently differ from state to state, automatic weapons are dangerous and unnecessary. Only one shot is needed to wound a house intruder. Automatic weapons are intended for mass murdering and war, not protection. England has outlaws all guns and even in the most dangerous parts of London gun crime is all but eliminated. Instead it is replaced with knife crime, but that is not as deadly and less criminals are willing to be that brutal. I am also offended that you consider this a troll thread. Although I did try to brighten up the topic with humorous pictures and witty quips throughout my essay, I am serious in my opinion and intentions. You have got to be from Kalifornia... Scary my ass! I would feel literally 10,000 times safer walking down the streets at night in Kentucky where these militias are then I would the streets of Brooklynn, NYC, Memphis, Cleveland, LA, Chicago, Detroit, and some of these cities have some of the most restrictive gun laws in the U.S. And let's not forget Washington D.C., the murder capital of the country... also has the number 1 spot for most restrictive gun laws in the country. The only thing that scares me is people with attitudes like yours. You really make it sound like you are a facist... That it's not about people's safety... You just want to control people. I feel pretty damn good that there is militias who would fight for and with me if our government turned tyrannical. Edited March 6, 200916 yr by MillerTime
March 6, 200916 yr Author MillerTime said: You have got to be from Kalifornia... Scary my ass! I would feel literally 10,000 times safer walking down the streets at night in Kentucky where these militias are then I would the streets of Brooklynn, NYC, Memphis, Cleveland, LA, Chicago, Detroit, and some of these cities have some of the most restrictive gun laws in the U.S. And let's not forget Washington D.C., the murder capital of the country... also has the number 1 spot for most restrictive gun laws in the country. The only thing that scares me is people with attitudes like yours. You really make it sound like you are a facist... That it's not about people's safety... You just want to control people. I feel pretty damn good that there is militias who would fight for and with me if our government turned tyrannical. I live near Chicago, which supposedly has one of the highest murder rates in the world. I don't live in one of the crime infested areas yet I feel safer here than I would in some gun crazy redneck neighborhood. As for the government turning tyrannical, it would be near impossible for it to happen. Even if it did, a slew of unorganized militias would have no power against the whole US military under a dictator's control.
