Posted June 18, 200420 yr http://www.fahrenheit911.com/trailer/ It's been out for weeks and I'm sure most have seen it, but none the less here is the link for those who have not. Looks very good IMO. Moore to me is the ultimate rager because he rages most members of the government (both sides) but simply exposing them for what they are. He spends time and money to piss people off in high places and rages people to the point they won't even talk to him. I'll be seeing this movie next week, unless the Right Wing system of censorship, repression, and keeping people ignorant, find a way to block it from being shown in my local theaters.
June 18, 200420 yr OldManPeterson']I'll be seeing this movie next week' date=' unless the Right Wing system of censorship, repression, and keeping people ignorant, find a way to block it from being shown in my local theaters.[/quote'] What makes you think the left wing system doesn't do the same thing?
June 18, 200420 yr Not that im looking for a argument or anything, but i dont see how this fat tub of shit accomplishes anything really. I mean, he goes up to congressman/senators and asks them about why their child isnt enlisted in the armed services. How does a parent (not just a politician) respond to that? I mean its not the parents decision for their child to join, its the childs when they turn 18. Its things like that, and one sided arguments that make me hate this guy.
June 18, 200420 yr How does a parent (not just a politician) respond to that? What Moore cut out was his reply, he said he had 2 nephews currently serving. http://www.moorewatch.com
June 18, 200420 yr that looks so ill. moore is th eman. moore is a fat fucking communist slob http://fatslob.ytmnd.com/
June 18, 200420 yr b4d_k4rm4']moore is a fat fucking communist slob http://fatslob.ytmnd.com/ that sound clip is from the lost boys. funny movie. michael moore does make interesting movies, bush is a cunt anyway. what's funny is http://www.moveamericaforward.org who want to ban this movie, same thing as restricting free speech, but the owners of that website belong to a GOP advocacy group.. not just ordinary consumers.
June 18, 200420 yr He makes great movies but his idea's are fucked up along with the conspiracy theory. Stupid white men is a good book tough, read it in one time. :wow: Prolly gonna dload this one
June 18, 200420 yr Author Not that im looking for a argument or anything, but i dont see how this fat tub of shit accomplishes anything really. I mean, he goes up to congressman/senators and asks them about why their child isnt enlisted in the armed services. How does a parent (not just a politician) respond to that? I mean its not the parents decision for their child to join, its the childs when they turn 18. Its things like that, and one sided arguments that make me hate this guy. Yes, a parent cannot make their child join the military, I can agree on this, they can however encourage or discourage it. That wasn't really the point though. The point he was trying to make to the audience and these Congress men/women is, if your so willing to risk the lifes of other peoples kids (I say kids because majority of people in military are under the age of 25) in Iraq, then send your own son or daughter. It's like a good boss, a good boss should never ask you do something they are not willing to do themselves. If every Congress men/woman had to committ a son or daughter to Iraq, maybe then they would think twice before approving a war based on lies. Risking their lifes so companies like Halliburton can make Billions of dollars.
June 18, 200420 yr Mace']what's funny is http://www.moveamericaforward.org who want to ban this movie' date=' same thing as restricting free speech.[/quote'] Not quite the same thing. We live in a capitalistic society and if a company believes it will lose money from doing something the public doesnt like, then they won't do it. If people write to movie companies and theatres, they might decide not to release it or not show it. I personally think this is a dumb idea anyway because it's just what Moore wants, more publicity and a "right wing conspiracy" trying to censor him. A better message would be calling on Moore to release his movie for free instead of him making money off of Iraq, our troops, and the thousands dead... he would be no different from the businesses he derides such as Halliburton that are, in Moore’s own words, “War Profiteers.” I personally won't give him my money and plan to download it.
June 18, 200420 yr Author Not quite the same thing. We live in a capitalistic society and if a company believes it will lose money from doing something the public doesnt like, then they won't do it. If people write to movie companies and theatres, they might decide not to release it or not show it. I personally think this is a dumb idea anyway because it's just what Moore wants, more publicity and a "right wing conspiracy" trying to censor him. A better message would be calling on Moore to release his movie for free instead of him making money off of Iraq, our troops, and the thousands dead... he would be no different from the businesses he derides such as Halliburton that are, in Moore’s own words, “War Profiteers.” I personally won't give him my money and plan to download it. Umm.... Moore doesn't own the movie, the Miramax guys do. They paid the 6 million dollars for it, from Disney who orignally spent the 6 Million it cost to make it. Ya, I'm sure Michael will make money off it, but releasing it for free is not a option when he does not own the movie.
June 18, 200420 yr i love how michael moore is such a hippocrite. he denies most interviews, and anyone who he thinks will make a hostile interviewer he denies full on. yet he uses those tactics on his victims. he shows a good view on things but thats the only view he shows and it is a selective view. dont get me wrong, im not siding with the govt. in any way, infact i hate most of those dipshits, just his hipocracy is annoying.
June 18, 200420 yr OldManPeterson']Umm.... Moore doesn't own the movie' date=' the Miramax guys do. They paid the 6 million dollars for it, from Disney who orignally spent the 6 Million it cost to make it. Ya, I'm sure Michael will make money off it, but releasing it for free is not a option when he does not own the movie.[/quote'] My argument still stands no matter who owns it. Miramax doesnt own it either, but good guess.
June 18, 200420 yr Author My argument still stands no matter who owns it. Miramax doesnt own it either, but good guess. Not a guess, its owned by Harvey and Bob Weinstein who run Miramax, just was easier for me to type Miramax, then their last name.
June 19, 200420 yr The whole "Your son/daughter isn't in the military" is such bs. There are people who are a GOOD choice for a soldier, and people that are BAD choices. I am a BAD choice for a soldier. There are much better choices out there. I would wager some money that any son/daughter of a congressmen/senate are BAD choices for a soldier. They are stuck up rich kids who have had everything in life, those people are BAD soldiers. We want GOOD soldiers in our army, not soldiers there on principal. Moore is a fag, I'd like to see his fat ass out there on the lines. Untill I see him drop the cheeseburger and pick up a rifle he can suck a cock for all I care.
June 19, 200420 yr The american society was one of the two first democratic societys in the world, therfor it haven't got the chanche to see where the ones before it went wrong and corrected it. Power is an evil which must be divided too as many parts as possible. To divide this evil there are two principals: 1. Peoplesuverinity: The power comes from the people too the state(only a few percentages in you country votes, allthough it is a right to choose so). 2. Powerdividingprincipal(Made by Montesquieu): The one who makes the laws(state), the one who practices the laws(police) and the judging(court). Some will argue that there is a fourt statepower the media. I will argue for a fifth the big companies who lobbies. In America thees borders vaguelly exsits due to the lobbying... Big companies who allso own large parts of the media(that influences people) have full controll. As mentioned before in a capitalistic society no body gives you a basket of bread unless you can give then something back. And your election system makes it legal to donate huge amounts of money the president candidats if that dosen't sound like corruption the what does. The point beeing you need to chapen up allot of the ways your country works. And the only way to achieve this is that people like Micheal Moore exsits. A society can not move forward without critisiem and liberialiem.. SRY: for my long post and even more sorry for my bad english. :naughtyd:
June 19, 200420 yr in moore's films he tells you 1 of two things. 1. half-truths 2. whole lies http://www.bowlingfortruth.com all he does is put out propoganda, take from his first film, the little cartoon about when the KKK was banned in america and magically the NRA showed up the same year. He basically tells you that the nra = KKK with a new name. If that is so, why would 7 out of the original 10 presidents of the NRA be former union generals. i think #6 was Grant, i dunno its all on the site. Put as much faith in his statements as you put in big fat Gabe Newell's.
June 19, 200420 yr in moore's films he tells you 1 of two things. 1. half-truths 2. whole lies http://www.bowlingfortruth.com all he does is put out propoganda, take from his first film, the little cartoon about when the KKK was banned in america and magically the NRA showed up the same year. He basically tells you that the nra = KKK with a new name. If that is so, why would 7 out of the original 10 presidents of the NRA be former union generals. i think #6 was Grant, i dunno its all on the site. Put as much faith in his statements as you put in big fat Gabe Newell's. Well one should not eat everything Micheal Moore says, and not what somebody else says, then free mind would not exsist... The point beeing that Moore has done allot of great things. And he should get credit for it, while Georg W. Bush haven't done mush else then enrichs his allready rich ass. A capitalistic society is wery much like a propaganda society like fascism and nazism(which were based on capitalism).. Only things that have value is taken care off which leads to a one directed society. And one could add here patriotism(something which blinds you from your actions just like religion, if you do a google on patriotism what is the first link http://www.usa-patriotism.com/), taking old symbols up like your eagle(same as Hitler) and one directed media.
June 19, 200420 yr great things michael moore has done? The only great thing he has ever done was learn how to edit film. A capitalistic society is wery much like a propaganda society like fascism and nazism(which were based on capitalism).. Thank you for this tid bit of information, does this have any place in this post? how does this examplify that michael moore has done a lot of things? Only things that have value is taken care off which leads to a one directed society. So what in our society has so much value that leads our country to a directed society? Yet again has nothing to do with this post just your own view on....well i dont know. And one could add here patriotism(something which blinds you from your actions just like religion, if you do a google on patriotism what is the first link http://www.usa-patriotism.com/), taking old symbols up like your eagle(same as Hitler) and one directed media. i dont know which scares me more, the fact that this is all one sentance or the amount of useless crap cluttering my screen. So what basically i can understand is that patriotism is (in your definition) a symbol like the eagle and one directed media?!?!? Well in this case isnt michael moore being UNPATRIOTIC then? He has done so many great things like Lied to people, edited film to support his lies, and has been unpatriotic. Your right this man ahs done a lot of great things. If this is not what u meant by ur last...sputtering of useless information, please retype and /runintooncomingtraffic.
June 19, 200420 yr Moore's shit is so unbelievable you have to be a down syndrome wheelchair bound lobotomized fucktard to believe a word that this guy says. When Moore's garbage is shown and promoted in schools across the world, that's when you know the pillars of society have come crashing down. BTW, OMP, I saw absolutley no rage in Bowling for Columbine, if you're reffering to the people who kicked him out on numerous occasions, they were obviously protecting their intelligence from the ignorant whale.
June 19, 200420 yr i dont know which scares me more, the fact that this is all one sentance or the amount of useless crap cluttering my screen. So what basically i can understand is that patriotism is (in your definition) a symbol like the eagle and one directed media?!?!? Well in this case isnt michael moore being UNPATRIOTIC then? He has done so many great things like Lied to people, edited film to support his lies, and has been unpatriotic. Your right this man ahs done a lot of great things. If this is not what u meant by ur last...sputtering of useless information, please retype and /runintooncomingtraffic. Answer: Patriotism is a scary thing. It blinds ppl form seeing the rightfull truth. I believe that USA is the most corrupted nation in the whole world. If you know any history about let say Allende(democratic ellected, removed by the US), Brasil and for that mather any other nation that the US has "fixed". Micheal more is challanging this making ppl aware that the american system has many flaws which leads to corruption. Take a good look at your president Bush. He is truly fucked up. The man attacks the ayatolla(leaders in Iran) for there religious state=Islamic state, but he says God himself about 20times in every speesh. Rule number one: "1. Do not mix religion and politics". The man also belives that there exsits good and evil... I am shure he even believes in Nohas Ark for that mather. Maby even santaclause. The hole point beeing that Micheal Moore is enlightening the people. You may not belive everything that he says cause it is so big. I shall quote Joseph Goebbels(Hitlers propaganda minister):"Tell the ppl a litle lie and they may see through it. Tell them a big lie and they will believe it.". BTW: You write like patriotism is a good thing. Who gave you that idea?
June 19, 200420 yr Magnetic, I don't know if it's because you have bad english, little schooling, or have no logical thought process, (perhaps a little of all three) but I can't understand anything youve said. I'm just glad you are far away in Norway and can't vote, how is socialism going there? or did they finally kick the labour party out? Sadly, you sound like a lot of Moore-ons I know who can vote.
June 20, 200420 yr " I believe that USA is the most corrupted nation in the whole world" one word : mexico who cares if moore releases his movie, people will forget the movie in about a month after release. i don't think it'll make a difference come vote time though, even though i have changed opinion about bush, i hope moore's film persuades voters to go with kerry, even though he's pretty scary looking. bush really fucked up iraq, i wish we would have just killed his sons and after capturing saddam left, these arabs need a tyrrant to lead them they're not capable right now of having civil liberties, they don't deserve our help. every other day an american is getting his head cut off and this isn't going to stop. it doesn't look like bush is going to withdrawl anytime soon.
June 20, 200420 yr Great, another movie eurotrash will try and use against americans in arguments. I love when they always bring up bowling for columbine, like it's the know all/ end all of an argument with americans. This movie will be one sided facts and hypocrisy at its finest, just like his other movies. I can already see all the anti-americanism that you'll see all over the internet after foreigners see this movie.
