']the TPM uses 2048 key legnth RSA block cypher encryption which is done INSIDE the tpm (fritz chip), the only way your gonna crack that is with a hammer. if they can't crack commview 4.0 for me, they certainly can't fucking crack that. even the fucking opcodes are encrypted.

 

if you didn't understand any of that, too bad.

 

edit: mr clean? is that really you? last time we met you beat me up. although that was no suprise i miss the days when you were nice.

 

Yes..it is nice to quote shit from an article to make yourself look smart when you are just a little wannabe knowitall

 

All you have to do is burn a different ROM on the chip....I'm sure you know the fine art to burning ROM's ...you are soo impressively intelligent..

 

n0t :rolleyes:

There's more hardware makers then just intel, amd or anyone else on that list. I notice that companies like sun microsystems and silicon graphics arn't on the list which is good, because you can run debian on both sparc and sgi machines as well as a wide variety of other machines. Hopfully, they don't use any components made by companies that are tcpa members. Too bad both major powerpc chip manufacturers, motorola and ibm, are tcpa members, because apple/mac would be a good alternative. But probably some third party computer manufacturer will stay out of the tcpa and someone will port linux to it's architecture and those companies will reap the rewards because people like us will be buying their hardware, running linux with open source software and using emulators to run downloaded tcpa compatible warez while listening to pirated music. So fuck the tcpa, fuck microsoft, fuck anyone else on that list and a big fuck the riaa. Because no matter what any of them do, they won't be able to shit.

who gives a shit about a few mkhz of difference im running an AMD Athlon 900mkhz and all games seem to work fine, including aquanox 2 and freelancer

what the hell is mkhz

b4d_k4rm4']There's more hardware makers the just intel' date=' amd or anyone else on that list. I notice that companies like sun microsystems and silicon graphics arn't on the list which is good, because you can run debian on both sparc and sgi machines as well as a wide variety of other machines. Hopfully, they don't use any components made by companies that are tcpa members. Too bad both major powerpc chip manufacturers, motorola and ibm, are tcpa members, because apple/mac would be a good alternative. But probably some third party computer manufacturer will stay out of the tcpa and someone will port linux to it's architecture and those companies will reap the rewards because people like us will be buying their hardware, running linux with open source software and using emulators to run downloaded tcpa compatible warez while listening to pirated music. So fuck the tcpa, fuck microsoft, fuck anyone else on that list and a big fuck the riaa. Because no matter what any of them do, they won't be able to shit.[/quote']

 

Amen to all of that B4d_k4rm4

AMD is better faster and they got the heat problems solved with the athlon.i smoked 2 amd kriptons a couple years back when fans died,was mess.I stuck with them and now have all boxes on althon xp +2200 and plan to get +3200 soon.I dont care for compenys with trendy lil toons and gay tv ads.AMD TILL I DIE MOTHER FUCKERS!!!

America: protecting your rights by taking them away and putting them in the safest place, the highest bidder's pockets.

AMD is just a small contributor to TCPA they won't be using the fritz chip they are just contributors.

p33pu5'].I dont care for compenys with trendy lil toons and gay tv ads.AMD TILL I DIE MOTHER FUCKERS!!!

 

 

Fuckin A right!!!!

amd athlon xp 2200+ on a asus a7n8x deluxe mobo running win2k pro and debian.

amd athlon xp 2200+ on a asus a7n8x deluxe mobo running win2k pro and debian.

 

same as me

except nix the win2k, deluxe part, and overclock the athlon

Question on the Athlon 2200+

 

What is your default CPU speed?

What is your Overclocked CPU speed?

What is your CPU temperature at your Overclocked speed?

 

I use an Athlon 2000+.

Well I wrote a long post before but it got lost when I accidentally clicked something else, so now I'm pissed off... I'll keep this short.

 

Basically I only overclocked by bumping my FSB to 166 from 133, since I have DDR333, and it used to be running at 266. I didn't want to risk anything stupid happening, since my computer as-is runs everything perfectly, but I was slightly generous with my multiplier.

 

Old: 1800 @ 133 x 13.5

New: 1913 @ 166 x 11.5

 

It runs at 28.5 celsius in windows, and 29.5 while playing Vice City at full everything.

 

I use a Vantec TMD as my CPU fan. I very, very highly recommend it.

 

Someday I might buy one of those unlocking kits that bridges the L1 cache gaps, and unlocks all multipliers and FSB's. But for now I'm just going to leave it and not risk anything stupid. I wish it was as simple as with the old T-Birds and Durons where you could fill the gaps with a lead pencil.

Bumps

i was going to bump this because it was either make a new amd vs intel poll or bump this.

Im going to say AMD is the better one.

I have a Athlon 64 3200+ and I love it.

God this thread was 2 years old for fucks sake.

Why the hell did you pigs bump this?

I have an amd but isn't there a 3 Ghz petium that typically gets overclocked to 4.*Ghz easily without extra cooling?

 

Edit: LOL biggest bump, EVER

amd 64 ftw

CHeaper, Faster, Cooler (temp.).

go to class azide

AMD or Intel - I choice AMD.

well if your mobo isnt brain damaged, it will turn off once your chip starts to overheat. plus, if you spring an extra $10 for a good fan, it will never overheat.

 

you need to look at more than the clock speed for determining which company is better.. you have to choose the right chip for what you're doing. for those of us that don't know, there are two types of processing: integers and floating point operations.

 

intels run on integers better. (by the way, integers are whole numbers, positive, zero, or negative. for instance, 1, 2, 966, -65535...)

this makes them better for processing binary and the larth, so they are good for sheer mathematical operations. For instance, editing and saving large movies.

 

amd's on the other hand, process Floating Point Numbers better. These have no fixed amount of digits before or after the decimal point (ie. a floating point). 3.1415, -347.0, 2.06E23 are all floating point numbers.

 

A "FLOP" then, is a mathematical calculation of floating-point numbers, say 2.06E23 x 16.01.

 

FLOPS however do not represent the clock speed, but more of the 3D processing power.

 

MIPS is a third way to express and measure speed. it stands for Millions of Instructions Per Seconds, fairly self explanitory.

 

So basically what this all means is: Processing? Intel. Games? AMD.

 

By the way, no one of these alone can compare the speeds of 2 processors. This is why we have all 3 measurements. (MIPS, Mhz, FLOPS)

 

 

i'm actually glad to know that.