Posted January 5, 200520 yr On a useful criteria which programming lang is best to learn as a first lang? Ive tried c++ but i cant think of a good use for it or am i just not far advanced enough to see its uses? what are good hacking languages and why? list some languages and uses for them.
January 5, 200520 yr i learnt to program in pascal, its a nice learning language to get the used to programming, but its not object orientated its procedural so you cant do as much. then i learnt java then C# both are good.
January 6, 200520 yr Author pascal huh sounds cool maybe ill look into that cause c++ is a little too hard. i have a big book on it and reading it is helllaaaa boring then i forget most shit anyway.
January 6, 200520 yr Yeah well first i learned html , php and then vb and now im learning C and C++ ... so yeah i didnt just start learning programming but thats just me VB is a good launguage to start with but if your cant understand anything but dont wanna learn anything to basic like html learn q basic lol i learned it when i was 8 year old !
January 6, 200520 yr Quote Yeah well first i learned html not to be harping on yuo, but i didn't think html was considered a programming language? more like scripting i'm still a programming noob, learning c++ but that seems easy to me. r00t i've heard a lot about pascal, is that an older language?
January 6, 200520 yr Well dude im small , im just around 13 amagin me learning this when i was 8 .. so its kinda ok ! I guess html and php leanrt by a 8 year old :S Plus i wanted to learn it i want to have wide round smarts but i guess you are right html isnt really a programming lauangue its ust somthing u use to make a site !
January 7, 200520 yr Author asm was the worst shit trying to learn, every tutorial was written with a different compiler and every nerd in irc suggested a different compiler.
January 8, 200520 yr Mordecai said: On a useful criteria which programming lang is best to learn as a first lang? Ive tried c++ but i cant think of a good use for it or am i just not far advanced enough to see its uses? what are good hacking languages and why? list some languages and uses for them. i will say to learn html although is not consider a programming language it has so many similituds with one and is a good start for people with no expirience on programming then you can learn java and then jump to c++ , c# is hard so in my opinion you should try html then java and finally c++ good luck and remember to be a good programmer you must code even if it is a simple program practice read and you'll be a good programmer . guicho
January 8, 200520 yr metaxa said: Start with visual basics, work your way to c+, then eventually c++.. lol, c+ heres my humble opinion, and im a capable programmer, so my opinion counts. pascal, visual basic, and c are crap because theyre not object oriented, which is uber dumb. c++ is for making programs for intel (and AMD) PC processors that runs windows (or DOS) and nothing else, if your into that shit, then go ahead, stick with C++. however, java gives you the flexibility to make cross-platform programs (for the nooobs, that means java programs can run on Macs, Linux, PC, and everything you can think of. java's syntax is really good becasue it got rid of a lot of the more muddy stuff in C++ and made it more simpler to use and elegant. Therefore, learn JAVA! besides, with java, you can make applets, which own. BTW, which book on C++ do you read? I recommend "C++: A Beginner's Guide" by Herbert Schildt (he owns). But if you like Java like me, then pick up "Java: A Beginner's Guide" and "The Complete Reference- Java 2: Fifth Edition" also by Herbert Schildt. Warning though: he is pretty ruthless in his examples and youll have to take moments to dicpher some of his even simple examples. However, I like him because theres no bullshiting or crappy jokes in his books (that means he doesnt do fillers). I really like this author but thats just my style and opinion. Anyways, heres the links to those books on amazon: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0072224207/qid=1105211362/sr=8-3/ref=pd_csp_3/002-7385058-9191250?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0072225882/qid=1105211362/sr=8-4/ref=pd_csp_4/002-7385058-9191250?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0072232153/qid=1105211414/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/002-7385058-9191250?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0072226803/qid=1105211440/sr=8-4/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i4_xgl14/002-7385058-9191250?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 Oh yeah, and dont expect to know how to "make hacks" and make stuff like half life or command and conquer once youve finished those books. youll need to gain a lot more experience oncee after you finish those books. One other thing: books with titles that ends with "...for dummies" and "...in 24 hours" are complete dogshit. Any book that promises you that you can master a language in a short amount of time is bogus and crap. Believe me, learning programming is a long and complicated process, and you cant really learn C++ " in 24 hours" Good luck on your programming journey m8!
January 11, 200520 yr learn java and use BlueJ and you will have an awesome knoledge of object orientated programmings
January 11, 200520 yr geee... brings back the old days... i started programming hardcore using BB code, eventually mastering that. I soon moved on to html, because frankly enough, BB code just didn't offer the features which i required to fully exploit my abilities. i'm still on html. check this out: shag-all.tripod.com That shows some of the amazing stuff which html offers.
January 11, 200520 yr Every programmer should have working knowledge of c/c++ but to start with and learn basic concepts, you may want to play around with javascript. It has syntax very similar to the c derived languages, is OO, and you can practice doing interactive things with it via your browser(making buttons that change text and styles around and so forth). Overall I think it is the best scripting language out there, syntax wise, and is, in my opinion, a great language to learn programming concepts with and doesn't require much overhead(you already have a webbrowser and i'm sure you have a text editor).
January 12, 200520 yr the c++ for dummies book is actually quite good, and the sams books are good too, did you read them? i did.
January 12, 200520 yr learn c++, even if assholes say that c is better. the fact fo the matter is that c++ has everything that c has and more, so fuck c and learn c++. my advice: start with visual basic (even and infant can use this program) now move onto c++ and make console/dos programs (very easy) to get yourself introdused to some of the basic functions you wil use consistantly start oing windows programming in c++ (gets quite hard as there are many of funtions to reember)
January 12, 200520 yr just thought id say togetherJ is good for java oh and html is not a programming lanuage its a mark up lanuage like xml and if you want to learn to program dont learn html is totaly different *EDIT* real m3n program in prolog :P
January 14, 200520 yr learn as follows ansi c, then c for windows, then asm for windows. c++ is ok, but i think it is a little complex(too many stupid rulz).
January 14, 200520 yr IvanDrago said: javascript is horrible. java and javascript are different you retard + u prob just 2 dumb to use it
January 16, 200520 yr Hey ive tryed c++ but its to difficulte to start with! So i want to start with Visual Basic! Is it free?When yes were can i download it and if not how mutch does it cost? sorry for my english :D
