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Ah, PsychoBud, now there the fundamental precepts of Capitalism are undermined by National Socialist superiority. Capitalism will have beggars on the street, folk that work 24/7 not being able to justify owning a decent car, never mind their own house. Capitalism is all about inequality.

 

Look around Germany. Where are there slums? There are none. Why not? They still adhere to the precepts laid down by the original Fascist state. The original Fascist state was all about free enterprise, and the entrepreneur's were rewarded as equally as they are in modern Capitalism. Hard workers were rewarded with plenty, and lazy, unproductive folk were made to work, or be outcast from society. The problem nowadays however, is that due to DEMOCRATIC influences, and there being no stable, long-term government, things have gone awry.

 

Most Western States (most of us are European anyway) are apathetic. They rely on the regular 'voting system' to bring fresh ideals and enterprise. However, we are totally reliant on an oligarchy.

 

It is truthful to say that Fascism truly is the complete opposite of…Marxian Socialism (the materialist conception of history of human civilization which can be explained simply through the conflict of interests among the various social groups and by the change and development in the means and instruments of production).

 

Forsooth, Fascism, now and has always, believed in the strictures of holiness and heroism; that is to say, in actions influenced by no other economic motive, direct or indirect. And if the economic conception of history be denied, according to which theory men are no more than puppets, carried to and fro by the waves of chance, while the real directing forces are quite out of their control, it follows that the existence of an unchangeable and unchanging class-war is also denied - the natural, unequivocal progeny of the economic conception of history. And above all Fascism denies that class-war can be the preponderant force in the transformation of society

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It will be interesting to see who wins this political debate, haha. Tigger at least this post was better than 99% of your bullshit posts, like that one titled, "This is old as fuck" on the general forum.
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ya, thnx for that m8. however, my 9 year old was like rifk'ing @ that, so I decided to put it up for a laugh. I mean, there's lot's of 9 year old's visit this site, or lot's of kids....I mean, we don't want to swear nor set a bad example, now do we?

 

Fuck, when I drive down the road, he's my faggot spotter. Since he was like 3, he's been spotting faggots. Do you really want to be spotted by my kid, not really eH?

True...capitalism IS all about inequality...but I personally favor the idea of letting those who can't or won't support themselves starve, or find someone who voluntarily supports them.

 

Beggars? I feel nothing but disgust for them, as there is NO reason anyone in this country NEEDS to panhandle, when our YMCA is still active, and rents you a cot in a shared room for $2, or a private room with shared facilities for $4 a night, and you can earn an absolute MINIMUM of $35 a day working for companies like Labor Ready...plus, using a YMCA or Salvation Army shelter as an address of record (which they allow), you can collect food stamps and welfare, recieve medical benefits, and so on...moreso if you're legitimately disabled so that you CAN'T work through one of the daily work daily pay places.

 

As far as I'm concerned, if you can't manage to earn enough to pay half the rent in a 2 bedroom apartment, pay for transportation of SOME sort (bicycle, public transport, or an old junker of a used car) and feed yourself, you're one sorry saco of shit, as I managed to go to school, and STILL bring home enough to allow me to have moved in with a friend, paid my car insurance, AND fed myself when I was in frigging HIGH SCHOOL, had I so wished...and that was working at a pizza joint.

 

Working in a non-union company, I managed to pay rent in a 1 bedroom apartment, eat quite well, pay a car payment AND full coverage insurance, and pay tuition at DeVry, while still having enough free cash to have enough money to buy plenty of little extras AND go out regularly on dates or to get drunk at some nightclub or another...plus putting max matched funds into a 401K, and paying my part of health and dental...and this was with me starting as a laborer, and finsihing with me being paid the equivalent of non-union new journeyman wages...meaning I was making about $400-$900 a week during this period, pre-tax.

 

I just don't buy the "I can't make enough to survive" lines from anyone...I know guys who mowed lawns for a living who managed to support a wife and kids without the wife working (granted, it wasn't a lifestyle *I* would settle for, but they got their bills paid well enough to keep utilities, phone, cable, and all on, without getting evicted), and I myself have spent a couple hard winters, in the days I was working construction, waiting tables to make my money, where I paid my bills off of $2.38 an hour and the tips I made, and never worked more than 32 hours (so I wouldn't qualify for benefits)...the problem is people seem to think that if they can't afford a NEW car, and all it entails, and all the other trimmings, then they "can't survive on what I can earn"...which is bullshit.

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I hear what you say PsychoBud, and don't disagree one iota. Each man for themselves, but we need to support the weak and the fragile in our societies. We cannot turn our back on them.

 

However, lazy bastards is another issue. To which I must stop posting so much around here. heh, I'd intended to stay a n00b, but g0t carried away. A very cool site you guy's have here, and the [myg0t]members are straightforward. It's too good, and you guy's are doing a great job.

 

Thnx Bro for the good attitude, appreciate it. We do think alike, G/L. H/F.

I totally disagree about supporting the weak and fragile...if you have a PERSONAL connection to someone who cannot support themselves, feel free to waste YOUR effort supporting them, but why should *I* be FORCED to support someone who cannot support themselves? Especially when it simply enables them to pass along whatever weakness it is that prevents them from being able to do so to the next generation?

 

I mean, honestly, even most crippling accidents are partially the fault of the victim, which means supporting him/her, and allowing them to breed just conserves the gene or passes on the learned behaviour that allowed for his/her injury, and as for those too stupid/lazy/sick to take care of themselves WITHOUT a debilitating injury...why in God's name would we deliberately conserve that weakness/illness/stupidity?

 

 

I don't understand why one would rather fry a healthy, relatively intelligent, and self-supporting jew or nigger, who is likely to pass the ability to support itself on to any offspring, but is willing to have his efforts used to support someone of his own race who can't support ITSELF, and will pass that inability on, back into the race...makes no sense to me. The ubermench need not be aryan, but CAN'T be a cripple/retard.

If a white Canadian went to China or India and tried to open a business, they would get shot.

 

i dont know about canadian companies, but amreican companies pull this shit all the time. shipping factory and other type jobs over seas and paying people shit wages, while taking thousands of jobs away from amreicans so the big guy at top gets a few extra million a year.

PyschoBud, there will always be crippled people tho. We can't just shoot them. I mean there are some really smart people who are paralyzed from the waste down but still add to our society. Also, I think if you're a war vetern and are disabled/crippled/mamed, you deserve at least some help from the government for fighting for your country.
jews?? niggers??? I don't know any jewish niggers. I know lots of nigger's don't like jews.
Jews cry too much. "We're so poor!" "They killed us cause they thought we started the black death!" "We are being put in ovens!" and now "We killed Jesus here so we pwn this land!" #cry please
PyschoBud, there will always be crippled people tho. We can't just shoot them. I mean there are some really smart people who are paralyzed from the waste down but still add to our society. Also, I think if you're a war vetern and are disabled/crippled/mamed, you deserve at least some help from the government for fighting for your country.

 

 

Ahh...but you see, veterans are covered by the VA and by veteran's disability insurance acts...anyone hurt as a result of their employment should be covered by disability, and the company's insurance, and, in the case of your smart cripples, they manage to earn a living despite their disabilities...Stephen Hawking isn't exactly broke, you know? And he wasn't BORN rich.

 

I'm not arguing that parents shouldn't support a kid as best they can until the kid's adulthood, or that, if they can, and choose to, that a cripple shouldn't be educated or anything else...what I'm saying is IF the fucker can't manage to support himself, and has noone willing to VOLUNTARILY support him, let the fucker starve, instead of forcing "society" to support them while conserving their disability...even if that disability is simply the inability to support themselves.

 

 

As for your first statement "we'll always have cripples"...we WON'T have genetic cripples (or at least not as many of them) if we refuse to support the ones who can't support themselves...they'll never get a chance to breed and pass on the problem, if they starve to death first. The ones who are smart enough or stubborn enough to overcome the diusability, and manage to support themselves and breed may pass on a physical disability, but they also pass on a predisposition towards whatever quality that allowed them to overcome the disadvantage...a good thing, in my eyes. Accident-related cripples, again, I will say MOST debilitating accidents only happen if the victim did something to "help it happen"...and even then, that's why insurance was invented....if you're not bright enough to provide sufficient insurance for yourself, above and beyond whatever your employer carries (and you should sure as hell know how much coverage you should have) it's your own damned fault....Honestly, if I were to be crippled tomorrow, I, and my family, would be fine for the next 60 years, money-wise (though, shortly after it happened, my life insurance might be paying off rather than continuing my disability insurance, as I don't think I could handle life from a wheelchair too easily, if there was no real hope of healing).

PsychoBud']Ahh...but you see, veterans are covered by the VA and by veteran's disability insurance acts...anyone hurt as a result of their employment should be covered by disability, and the company's insurance, and, in the case of your smart cripples, they manage to earn a living despite their disabilities...Stephen Hawking isn't exactly broke, you know? And he wasn't BORN rich.

 

I'm not arguing that parents shouldn't support a kid as best they can until the kid's adulthood, or that, if they can, and choose to, that a cripple shouldn't be educated or anything else...what I'm saying is IF the fucker can't manage to support himself, and has noone willing to VOLUNTARILY support him, let the fucker starve, instead of forcing "society" to support them while conserving their disability...even if that disability is simply the inability to support themselves.

 

 

As for your first statement "we'll always have cripples"...we WON'T have genetic cripples (or at least not as many of them) if we refuse to support the ones who can't support themselves...they'll never get a chance to breed and pass on the problem, if they starve to death first. The ones who are smart enough or stubborn enough to overcome the diusability, and manage to support themselves and breed may pass on a physical disability, but they also pass on a predisposition towards whatever quality that allowed them to overcome the disadvantage...a good thing, in my eyes. Accident-related cripples, again, I will say MOST debilitating accidents only happen if the victim did something to "help it happen"...and even then, that's why insurance was invented....if you're not bright enough to provide sufficient insurance for yourself, above and beyond whatever your employer carries (and you should sure as hell know how much coverage you should have) it's your own damned fault....Honestly, if I were to be crippled tomorrow, I, and my family, would be fine for the next 60 years, money-wise (though, shortly after it happened, my life insurance might be paying off rather than continuing my disability insurance, as I don't think I could handle life from a wheelchair too easily, if there was no real hope of healing).

 

Yeah I realize veterns are helped now that way but the question is, is the coverage they get now enough money for them to live on?

 

I guess you're right that we won't always have genetic mishaps, especially cause of the improvements we're making in genetic research and engineering. I agree that we should't support fucking lazy asses who don't at least try to work. But I don't think we'll ever have a society where everybody goes to college and is is super brillant.

But I don't think we'll ever have a society where everybody goes to college and is is super brillant.

 

 

Neither do I...but not everyone is willing to work hard enough to go through all that...and some who aren't so brilliant, and don't go to college work their asses off, and get rich, anyhow.

 

My point is this country is built in such a way that anyone...and I mean ANYONE willing to put the time, effort, and work in can get relatively rich, and ANYONE who's not flat out retarded can manage, if they're willing to, to support themselves...fuck, man, even retards can manage to live on their own in this country, thanks to employers like WalMart who PREFER to hire them. I mean christ, I know three people with CP bad enough to keep them in wheelchairs who're making a living on their own (granted, one of them makes his living as the leader of the "beggar's guild" for renessance festivals, as a paid performer, and it's not MUCH of a living, but still, he manages), and I knew a guy in CA who was making 6 figures despite having been rendered quadrapalegiac in a naval accident...took the disability payments the navy gave him and got his CPA...just uses voice-to-text software.

 

There's no excuse for being unable to survive in this country, if you have anywhere NEAR a "normal" brain in your head.

ROFL, man, if I could get paid even a penny for every time I pointed out the obvious to some moron who's ignoring it, I'd make Bill Gates look like a street corner beggar, living in this world.
And if I had recieved a penny for everytime I've had to fix my friend's computer due to an overload of porn...I'd make Oprah look like a prostitute in Alabama.

Tigger, look up a law case: The State of New York v. Lewis Robinson and family.

 

Judge told the family that was suing due to having unemployment and welfare cut off from one member that NY State would pay each one $50K if the whole family (three generations on welfare, plus minor children, at that time) would also take a plae ticket to the African nation of their choice, and sign a binding document agreeing never to set foot in the States again.

 

The Robinsons elected to drop the suit, rather than accept the court's proposed settlement.

PsychoBud']Hmmm...a manic-depressive scat-fetishist into incest (first cousin)?

 

A jew himself?(his mother was jewish, by race, which makes him a jew, despite the fact she converted in order to marry his father...who then dumped her and ran off).

 

A megalomaniac hypocrite who managed to organize the largest hoodwinking scam in history?

 

 

The only good thing he did was lower the general working population of Europe by about 60% for a few years...and the fuckers managed to breed it right back up to normal in record time.

 

Wow, someone with intelligence, makes me happy. gj. The rest of you neo-nazi wannabe punks can fuck off an die.

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