Posted November 14, 200321 yr Black Innovation? Recently, it has become popular to spread yet even more misinformation, this time regarding black inventions. While history has proven that blacks have failed to contribute anything significant to the building of civilization, campaigns are spreading across America attempting to credit black "inventors" with certain inventions. One such campaign is promoted by IBM who offers a poster of "Famous Black Inventions." Included on this poster are pictures of blacks and their supposed inventions - including the traffic light. While the black Garrett A. Morgan did submit and receive a patent for a traffic signal in 1923, he did not invent the traffic light. The first "traffic light" was created in London in 1868, used to control the traffic of pedestrians and buggies. It was illuminated by gas using green and red colors, and was manually operated by policemen who turned a lever to reveal the appropriate color to the appropriate lane of traffic. Railroads were already using a lighting system as well. It was a police officer, William Potts, who first improved on the gas-light invention, which required a police officer to operate. William Potts recognized the need for something better when he observed that police officers were spending much of their time directing traffic after the invention of the automobile. He created an electric lighting system using red, amber, and green to control automobile traffic in Detroit. It was first used in 1920 and was the herald of the modern traffic light. William Potts was not black. Garrett A. Morgan's traffic light of 1923 did not contribute significantly to the traffic light of today, but resembled train switching lights already in use. When reading these lists of so-called inventions, which are especially prevalent on the Internet, it becomes painfully obvious the lies contained within those lists. These lists are especially popular on college campuses. Afrocentrism is the term used to describe the attempts to cover-up the truth of history by spreading lies which claim that the blacks of Africa actually created civilization. This ridiculous theory is being taught in many schools and even universities. Many college graduates think they are being intelligent when they state that without H. A. Jackson, we wouldn't have a kitchen table, which he "invented" on October 6, 1896. This is how ridiculous these lists have become. I am sure that the kitchen table was invented centuries ago, although I don't believe the blacks in Africa were furnishing their mud huts with kitchen tables. H.A. Jackson may have submitted an idea for a patent which was a special modification of the kitchen table, but he certainly did not invent it, and neither did his patent have any significance on the civilization of the world. This is also true for W. R. Davis, Jr., who is credited with inventing the library table - in 1878! What many are doing is obtaining patent lists of blacks and then attempting to pass them off as inventions. Most of what these people are doing is taking a certain invention, modifying it in some way, and then patenting that modification. In other words, they are not patenting original creations. Many are just outright lying. One list credits Sarah Boone, a female black, with the invention of the ironing board in 1892. White people were ironing clothes on ironing boards long before 1892. J. Standard, another black, is credited with inventing the refrigerator in 1891. Yet, the truth of history reveals this is another lie. William Cullen demonstrated the first known artificial refrigeration at the University of Glasgow in 1748. In 1805, Oliver Evans, an American, designed the first refrigeration machine, and in 1844, John Gorrie used this design to build a refrigerator which he used to cool the air for his patients suffering from yellow fever. This all happened well before J. Standard ever submitted his patent. Furthermore, the concept of refrigeration was known by whites long before the first artificial devices were ever created. The lists go on and on. One credits the invention of the two-stroke gasoline engine in 1950 and the internal combustion engine in 1958 to a black, Frederick M. Jones. The truth is that thermal engines were created as long ago as the 1600's by whites. Almost one hundred years before Frederick M. Jones, N. Otto developed the first successful four-stroke spark ignition gasoline engine in the 1870's. The same year, Dougald Clerk built the first successful two-stroke engine, which remains in use today. The first person to actually experiment with the internal combustion engine was a Dutchman, Christian Huygens, who did so in 1680. Most of the modern gasoline engines are descendants of Gottlieb Daimler's creation of 1885. For those who don't know this, Daimler was a German. Frederick M. Jones is also credited with the invention of the starter generator in 1949; however, electric ignitions had already been introduced in 1924. On the same note, another black, Andrew J. Beard, is credited with inventing the rotary engine in 1892. This is completely unfounded. The first practical rotary engine was created by a German, Felix Wankel, in 1927. On a lighter note, Lydia O. Newman, a black, is credited with inventing the hairbrush in the late 1800's, despite the fact that white women have been brushing their hair for centuries. Burridge and Marshman supposedly invented the typewriter in 1885, despite the fact that Remington and Sons had already been selling the typewriter since 1874, and the original machine was created in 1868 by Christopher Latham Sholes. The initial typewriter did not have lowercase letters, but the shift key of the Number 2 typewriter, manufactured by Remington in 1878, allowed for lowercase letters. Other claims include riding saddles, which were supposedly invented by W. D. Davis in 1895. Again, this is claimed despite the fact that riding saddles were in use long before 1895, primarily by whites. Another famous claim is that a black, Paul Williams, invented the helicopter. Again, a little research will prove this to be false. The fact is that no one person "invented" the helicopter. However, Leonardo da Vinci did pen down his own version of a helicopter long before Paul E. Williams was born. Furthermore, the first successful lift-off of a helicopter was accomplished in 1907 by a Frenchman, Paul Cornu, and Etienne Oehmichen, another Frenchman, was able to fly a helicopter 1 kilometer in 1924. This flight lasted 7 minutes and 40 seconds. From that moment, white engineers advanced and perfected the helicopter, and in 1937 the first practical helicopter was introduced. Not surprisingly, this first practical helicopter was a German creation - the Focke-Wulf Fw 61. Igor Sigorsky, a Russian, is credited with many innovations and record setting flights after this time which greatly enhanced helicopter engineering. Perhaps one of the most ridiculous claims is that a black, W. A. Lavallette, invented the printing press, which he had patented in America. This was undoubtedly news to Gutenberg, who had already invented the printing press in 1445, long before America was even a country and almost fifty years before Columbus even landed. <...continued below...>
November 14, 200321 yr Author The list goes on and on, and each and every so-called "invention" can be refuted in a similar manner, from the biscuit cutter (A. P. Ashbourne, 1875) to the "portable shield for infantry" (H. Spears, 1870). Anyone familiar with history should be aware that whites have been using devices to cut out biscuits long before A. P. Ashbourne, and I am sure that Roman soldiers from the first century never went into battle without a "portable shield for infantry." Michael Harney, another black, is credited with inventing the lantern. Why not credit him with inventing light or fire? Again, these claims are so ridiculous as to boggle the mind, yet many Americans blindly accept what they are being told as truth - white or black. What is worse, children are being taught these lies in schools supported by our tax money. There are also federally funded "black history" museums throughout the country spreading such lies. Even the claim that the mulatto George Washington Carver invented peanut butter is false. The truth is that early civilizations often crushed peanuts into paste and Civil War soldiers ate "peanut porridge." As far as modern peanut butter is concerned, a St. Louis physician encouraged a food company owner to produce and sell peanut butter in 1890 to individuals who had difficulty chewing food. The physician had experimented with grinding peanuts and recognized peanut paste to be highly nutritious. Bayle, the owner of the food company, sold peanut butter for 6 cents per pound. Additionally, the first patent for peanut butter was obtained by John Harvey Kellogg, another physician experimenting with sources of protein for his patients. George Washington Carver didn't even begin his "peanut research" until 1903. Most of the so-called black inventors are mulattos like George Washington Carver, and do not deserve to be called black anyway. Lies such as these are harmful not only to whites, but to blacks as well. Black children are armed with such flimsy lies which are easily torn down, and white children are taught to appreciate so-called "black culture" as being better than "white culture." White children are no longer allowed to be proud of their heritage, which is full of white men and women who have built nations, constructed civilizations, and who have contributed to a full history of art and science. While many of the claims stated above are almost comedic in their absurdity, it is no laughing matter when lies such as these are spread. Some promoters of so-called "black inventions" go so far as to claim that blacks created, among other things, civilization, chess, medicine, paper and the alphabet. Liars use the fact that early white civilizations created some of these things on the continent of Africa. Thus, they state that "Africans" invented all of these. While the geological identification may be correct in some instances, the race is certainly not. It is a well-known fact of history that Egyptians, Romans, Greeks, and so on were white people who created their respective civilizations. Cleopatra was not black, and neither was Marc Antony. Both were very clearly white people who bore no resemblance to the blacks or mongrels we see in America today. Alexander the Great was a white man, though he may have visited the continent of Africa. The builders of the pyramids were certainly not kin to the mud-hut builders of the desert. Socrates, Hippocrates, Plato, and so on were also certainly not blacks. Even Ethiopia was once a nation of white people, ruled by white kings and queens, until only recently when the blacks took over. These are all facts of history and easily verifiable, especially when one has the ability to read the historians of the time, who were, once again, also white. Unfortunately, most of these great nations toppled in the wake of the plague of mongrelization, a story which has been repeated in every great nation founded by white men throughout history. All of these attempts to change history and discredit white culture are merely the beginning when it comes to the deviousness of the mongrel mind. Martin Bernal of Cornell University attempted to rewrite history over a decade ago with his books: Black Athena The Afroasiatic Roots of Classical Civilization 1: The Fabrication of Ancient Greece 1785-1985 (London: Free Association Books. and New Brunswick: Rutgers University: 1987) and Black Athena 2: The Archaeological and Documentary Evidence (London, Free Association Books; New Brunswick: Rutgers University:1991). Bernal's works attempted to credit black Africans with the creation of the Greek Civilization and therefore western civilization in general. The works were easily refuted by leading Classicists and experts, yet Bernal's "work" continues to garner unwarranted attention. Bernal's work consists of trying to prove an Egyptian-Phoenician influence on Greek Classical culture. Even if his interpretation of history were correct, which it is not, it is certainly not correct to state that the ancient Egyptian and Phoenician civilizations were created by Negroes. Bernal's books are simply extensions of an earlier work and an on-gong attempt to change the truth of history. In 1954, George G.M. James published a book entitled Stolen Legacy, which offers no proof for his claims of African influence on Greek philosophy. In one argument, he states: "[The Greeks] did not possess the native ability essential to the development of philosophy ... the Greeks were not the authors of Greek philosophy, but the Black people of North Africa, the Egyptians." Again, his claims that the Hellenists stole their philosophical ideas from the Africans are unfounded. Even more unfounded, however, is that the "Black people of North Africa" were the same creators of the Egyptian civilization. The builders of the pyramids and Egyptian rulers were most certainly white. Even Cleopatra was a Macedonian Greek, whose family went to extreme lengths to preserve their Greek racial line, even to the point of incest. Two other works have been written refuting Bernal's claims. The first, Not Out of Africa by Mary R. Lefkowitz easily discredits Black Athena. More recently, Black Athena Revisited, Edited by Mary R. Lefkowitz and Guy MacLean Rogers, offers over 500 pages of proof written by numerous scholars against "Afrocentrist" claims of the black creation of civilization. One popular claim is that Aristotle and Alexander raided the library at Alexandria (which is in Egypt) and that was where they stole their ideas from the Egyptian civilization and that Aristotle was black. This, of course, is utterly ridiculous for several reasons. First of all, the library at Alexandria was not built until at least 25 years after Aristotle's death. Secondly, this library was assembled by a Greek student of Aristotle, Demetrius, and contained books written almost entirely in Greek. Thirdly, the city of Alexandria, though located in Egypt, was by no means an "Egyptian" city. It was the ruling center of the Ptolemies, the Macedonian Greek family of which Cleopatra was a member. It was even designed by a Greek architect. The name of the city was, of course, taken from the Greek ruler, Alexander the Great. Even the colony of white Judeans living in Alexandria, which numbered over 1,000,000, were a Greek-speaking people, as recorded in Philo. The Bible says, "No lie is of the truth ... "no liar has eternal life" and "the lake of fire was created for all liars and all who help make a lie."
November 14, 200321 yr you know, people here really wouldnt care what your say... We hate nigros, jews and sand niggers.
November 14, 200321 yr Author FAK3R']HOW DARE YOU SLANDER THE NIGGERS WHO WORK HARD ON MY COTTON FIELDS? Slander is defamation through a spoken medium. This is a written medium. So I believe the word you are looking for is libel. Don't you?
November 14, 200321 yr Actually, slander and libel mean the same thing outside of a courtroom. Slander inside a courtroom means "defamation of character" And if you are going to plagerize a document, at least have the decency to give credit to the author. For gods sake, you even stole the title. Black Innovation? Originally writen by V.S. Herrell plagerized by Weigan http://www.liesexposed.net/nfp/issue0112/blinn.htm
November 14, 200321 yr hmm i was buying into what the author was saying then i read another story off his website claiming that jews were responsible and planned 9/11 and that just crushed all his arguments. now i don't know if i believe the above essay, too lazy to find out though.
November 14, 200321 yr Author Actually, slander and libel mean the same thing outside of a courtroom. Slander inside a courtroom means "defamation of character" And if you are going to plagerize a document, at least have the decency to give credit to the author. For gods sake, you even stole the title. Black Innovation? Originally writen by V.S. Herrell plagerized by Weigan http://www.liesexposed.net/nfp/issue0112/blinn.htm I never claimed to have written Black Innovation?. It is fairly obvious to most people above the age of five that it was a copy and paste job. Would I write an essay that long, and what's more, actually NAME it, for a minimally travelled forum made up by a bunch of teenagers who take others misery as their greatest and only joy? Furthermore, you should look up what plagiarizing a text means, you mental midget.
November 14, 200321 yr i hate white people equaly as muches i hate blacks so that doesnt make me racists
November 14, 200321 yr zuZu']i hate white people equaly as muches i hate blacks so that doesnt make me racists word. fucking kill these white fagets and wiggers and numorous others.
November 14, 200321 yr I never claimed to have written Black Innovation?. It is fairly obvious to most people above the age of five that it was a copy and paste job. Would I write an essay that long, and what's more, actually NAME it, for a minimally travelled forum made up by a bunch of teenagers who take others misery as their greatest and only joy? Furthermore, you should look up what plagiarizing a text means, you mental midget. Beings that this is now the second time you have copied and pasted text from others work and only admited to plagerizing AFTER you are confronted leads me to beleive that you are, in fact, trying to pass it off as your own writings. In both occasions, you fully neglected to post the original authors name, when it would have been very simple. When you copied and pasted the text, you took the time to delete the authors name, as it would have come out looking like this if you hadn't... Black Innovation? by V.S. Herrell Recently, it has become popular to spread yet even more misinformation, this time regarding black inventions. While history has proven that blacks have failed to contribute anything significant....... Looks alot like yours, with the author deleted, huh... As for writing an essay "for a minimally travelled forum made up by a bunch of teenagers" Maybe you dont know who myg0t is. Their theorys are a bit rash, but this forum is traveled by thousands a day. myg0t has been featured in some of the most prestigous magazines in the world, for their "raging" And I do beleive that myg0t is not always about raging with words, but also hacking. And these forums are not created by kids, but some of the most elite adult hackers in the world. Not all the memebrs of myg0t are that skilled, but I assume that a few are. Oh, and PS. Plagiarism is summerized very clearly by this one statement... "Using someone else's ideas or phrasing and representing those ideas or phrasing as our own, either on purpose or through carelessness, is a serious offense known as plagiarism. "Ideas or phrasing" includes written or spoken material, of course...." http://webster.commnet.edu/mla/plagiarism.shtml That, my "mentally retarded" friend is how you give credit where credit is due. Next time try to write your own words, instead of just copying some one elses.
November 14, 200321 yr I so could not be arsed to read all that :(, can you try and shorten it next time. We are busy people...
November 15, 200321 yr slander = false speech libel = false writing this may have some substance, but blacks did contribute to the ultimate outcome of what we have today. im sure those men didnt want people saying they invented stuff when they didnt anyway. just blame it on misinformation and quit attacking other races.
November 16, 200321 yr Author Beings that this is now the second time you have copied and pasted text from others work and only admited to plagerizing AFTER you are confronted leads me to beleive that you are, in fact, trying to pass it off as your own writings. In both occasions, you fully neglected to post the original authors name, when it would have been very simple. When you copied and pasted the text, you took the time to delete the authors name, as it would have come out looking like this if you hadn't... Black Innovation? by V.S. Herrell Recently, it has become popular to spread yet even more misinformation, this time regarding black inventions. While history has proven that blacks have failed to contribute anything significant....... Looks alot like yours, with the author deleted, huh... As for writing an essay "for a minimally travelled forum made up by a bunch of teenagers" Maybe you dont know who myg0t is. Their theorys are a bit rash, but this forum is traveled by thousands a day. myg0t has been featured in some of the most prestigous magazines in the world, for their "raging" And I do beleive that myg0t is not always about raging with words, but also hacking. And these forums are not created by kids, but some of the most elite adult hackers in the world. Not all the memebrs of myg0t are that skilled, but I assume that a few are. Oh, and PS. Plagiarism is summerized very clearly by this one statement... "Using someone else's ideas or phrasing and representing those ideas or phrasing as our own, either on purpose or through carelessness, is a serious offense known as plagiarism. "Ideas or phrasing" includes written or spoken material, of course...." http://webster.commnet.edu/mla/plagiarism.shtml That, my "mentally retarded" friend is how you give credit where credit is due. Next time try to write your own words, instead of just copying some one elses. I never gave the impression of being the author and you know it. I copied and pasted the articles in full as they were given to me, and I even included their correct and full names as well as their formatting. You are grasping at straws, or however that English saying goes. What's more, I think you might have an obsessive personality that you should let a professional have a look at before it evolves and something tragic is likely to ensue. We care for you, braahp. :)
November 17, 200321 yr I never gave the impression of being the author and you know it. I copied and pasted the articles in full as they were given to me, and I even included their correct and full names as well as their formatting. You are grasping at straws, or however that English saying goes. What's more, I think you might have an obsessive personality that you should let a professional have a look at before it evolves and something tragic is likely to ensue. We care for you, braahp. :) Wow, I just found this post again. Didn’t know it had been moved. Anyways, it does not matter if you gave the impression you wrote it. What you didn't do was give the impression someone else wrote it. If you copied and pasted what was given to you, then there would be an author under the title. It’s that simple. And whose name did you give correctly? The names in the article? Of course you did, otherwise you would have looked like a moron. But once again, you did not give the authors name. You didn't even bother to add quotation marks to the post. Also, I wish you would leave your matchbook Psychology to people you have met in real life. I do not have an obsessive personality, but what I do have is a severe problem with people who come into forums and plagiarize others work to make them appear intelligent. The gentleman, V.S. Herrell, who wrote the article, deserves credit for his work, you do not. I see it 2 ways. Either you were too incompetent to include his name, or even quotation marks, or you were flat out plagiarizing his work. And PS. Do you still care for me even though I am African American?
November 17, 200321 yr Author And PS. Do you still care for me even though I am African American? That certainly explains your motivations. The articles did bring up some interesting questions as to the kind of integrity that one can expect from people of your race and interests. Although I would say that you are a Negro or a Black person. What is it with you people and your wish to change the way you are referred to every decade, by the way? Can it have something to do with the fact that whatever you call yourself, it quickly becomes a deragotary term because of the way you handle yourself in this world? In any case, "African-American" isn't even valid because as you may well know, there are also White immigrants from Africa. Even historically Africa can't be said to be a definite Black place, at least not if you look at the continent as a whole (have you ever heard the term sub-saharan?). Please stop thinking that changing your collective name somehow magically erases Whitey's memory of what destruction, parasitism and unproductivity you have brought to the White world, not to mention the White paradises you continually turn into disease- and crime- ridden ghettos in the name of the agalitarian "multicultural heaven" that somehow is supposed to come to life if only enough rapes, robberies, murders and racial assaults on Whites are commited. P.S. Yes, I still care for you in the sense that if my White people ever wakes up to the kind of exploitation that we are subjected to, and the statistically bound prediction of our people to go the route of the Dodo if we do not start to care also for ourselves, I will personally relieve you from all worldly problems and pains in a quick and effective manner unless you volunteer to go back to sub-saharan Africa so that whatever you do, good or evil, can affect your own people instead of mine. Do you understand? :)
November 17, 200321 yr That certainly explains your motivations. The articles did bring up some interesting questions as to the kind of integrity that one can expect from people of your race and interests. Although I would say that you are a Negro or a Black person. What is it with you people and your wish to change the way you are referred to every decade, by the way? Can it have something to do with the fact that whatever you call yourself, it quickly becomes a deragotary term because of the way you handle yourself in this world? In any case, "African-American" isn't even valid because as you may well know, there are also White immigrants from Africa. Even historically Africa can't be said to be a definite Black place, at least not if you look at the continent as a whole (have you ever heard the term sub-saharan?). Please stop thinking that changing your collective name somehow magically erases Whitey's memory of what destruction, parasitism and unproductivity you have brought to the White world, not to mention the White paradises you continually turn into disease- and crime- ridden ghettos in the name of the agalitarian "multicultural heaven" that somehow is supposed to come to life if only enough rapes, robberies, murders and racial assaults on Whites are commited. P.S. Yes, I still care for you in the sense that if my White people ever wakes up to the kind of exploitation that we are subjected to, and the statistically bound prediction of our people to go the route of the Dodo if we do not start to care also for ourselves, I will personally relieve you from all worldly problems and pains in a quick and effective manner unless you volunteer to go back to sub-saharan Africa so that whatever you do, good or evil, can affect your own people instead of mine. Do you understand? :) Hey Hitler Youth, Did it ever occur to your pathetic ass that: 1. The numerical system used ACROSS THE WORLD today, was invented by ARABS? Try doing long division in Roman Numerals, it isn't going to fucking happen. Without the numerical system a RIDICULOUS amount of things wouldn't have been invented. In fact, the most advanced the white race got before the Arab numerical system was Romans, whom Egyptians were far superior to intellectually and technologically (While the romans propelled giant rocks at peoples' cities, the Egyptians were building structures that cannot even be recreated by modern white men today). 2. If you think that you have some sort of divine right to live in your country simply because of the color of your skin, perhaps you should get the FUCK out of America, seeing as how it belonged to the Native Americans while Columbus and his numerous little single-celled siblings were dribbling down his mother's tummy, and into her piss flaps. By all means, move back to Europe, and then whine about immigrants, but to do so while in a country that YOU and "YOUR PEOPLE" STOLE from others is fucking ridiculous. 3. Once you have practiced what you have preached (unless you want to be a total hypocrite), and moved to Germany/England/France, or wherever your ancestors are from, please note that you probably have a significant amount of Roman/Italian blood in you from when they occupied Europe, if so, get the hell out of Germany/England/France and back to Italy, you fucking cheap ass immigrant. 4. To complain about the supposed destruction and violence that other races have brought to you is a PHD level lecture in blidness and hypocricy. "Your people" alone have brought more misery and violence in this world than ANYONE else. You have raped and pillaged to almost every corner of the earth. India, China, Africa, hell, not far from half a century ago you morons were fighting EACHOTHER in Europe. If all the other races are so inherantly stupid and incapable of creating technology, then perhaps it would have made a nice little bit of fucking sense to STAY THE FUCK OFF OF THEIR LAND? Think about it, if your people had just left everybody the fuck alone, you probably wouldn't even know black people existed. You brought everything on yourself. Hell, why don't we give you the benefit of the doubt and say that all the other races are inferior (despite the fact that before you stole the arab numerical system you weren't even the most technologically advanced race, and throughout history, if anything, you have only shown yourselves to be the most violent and evil of the peoples). I would rather be a half naked negro running around happily and causing no damage, than a disgusting and selfish white person who goes around causing grief and death wherever he goes. That other races are inferior is arguable (although once again you weren't even the most advanced until you stole a numerical system), but that the white race is evil and violent is an undisputable fact. 5. To be anti immigration is to say that all the Irish, German, Polish etc immigrants who came to America didn't have the right. The Irish, the Italians, the Jews, even the English (although they were very very small time) all created violent gangs as soon as they hit your shores. In fact, chances are that you share the same DNA as those wop/kike/mick/limeys who came over to this precious country and turned it into an alchohol fueled gang battleground. So how about also deporting all white people of immigrant descent? Oh yeah, then the ones with Roman blood would have to go back to Italy......hell your morals kinda make everything stupid and diffucult. It is obvious that you (as well as with other extreme political groups, including far left wing Michael Moore fan types) are mad at life, have some sort of inferiority complex, have something happening in your life that upsets you, so you use your politics as a way to feel better, to release bad feelings, to feel good about yourself. You love the idea that white people are superior victims because your low self esteem needs some sort of quick boost. Never mind the fact that if you go through school and college your life will be fine, there are Negros out there reffering to themselves as "African Americans"! How terrible! What an insult to White Africans! This shit doesn't even effect you yet you still get all worked up about it. It's the same thing with athiests who get all mad at christians and whine constantly about how annoying they find them: GUESS WHAT? Get a fucking life, and realise that none of it even effects you! By the way, I'm half black, 6'2 tall and have an IQ of 130. I abide by the law and am one of the best students in my school. In fact, I am probably of more use to this country than a simpleton like you who's achievements consist of copy-pasting other people's work and trying to pass it off as your own on an internet forum. So how about you and your pathetic kind leave the country and let the decent people live happy peaceful lives?
November 18, 200321 yr Author someguy1, I don't have nearly enough time to answer all of your concerns, but as I see you build the majority of your arguments on the presumption that I am an American, I feel I should let you know that I am a native Norwegian living in Norway. Me or mine have never executed any force or hostilities towards other peoples, at least not since the age in which the popular sport for adventurous Scandinavian males was to travel the seas and train their swordsmanship in battle with people who always seemed to lose, and that was a whole millenium back. You evidently have a lot of bitterness and hostility towards other races (or Whites at least), and you erroneously presume that I would feel the same way. Excuse my french, but you don't know shit about what I believe in. I will enlighten you. I believe that every people have an inherent right to self-determination, and as I love diversity in it's natural and true form, I also believe that no ethnicity or race should be forcibly mixed with one or more different peoples, because as the egalitarians/multiculturalists can not seem to understand, that leads to the extinction of that very ethnicity or race in the end (=LESS diversity). I do not believe in the right of a contemporary socio-political force to permanently damage or fully stop the natural process of speciation* in the name of some bogus egalitarian tripe that can only be believed in if you are the sort of person who feels compelled to believe in whatever is in at the moment (perhaps this sheeplike state is some sort of survival instinct that has evolved on behalf of the fact that acceptance in a group generally offers inscreased likelyhood for survival, but I don't believe any research has been done on this subject). I believe in any person's right to defend his immediate or extended group as well as his/her loved ones, the urge of which is a fundamental and evolutionary needed part of our human psyche. As for your arguments of the stupidity of the White race, I have to say that I find it very amusing and telling. I think that you should feel in place to spout whatever "egali-herstory" you would like, because you will be hard pressed to find a White person with a racial inferiority complex beyond the feeling of guilt and self-hatred the "educational" facilities have taught them that the devilishly evil White people absolutely must have over the lack of other races' ability to create and sustain significant civilization. Whitey be da dumm cave-dwellah? Yah, Whitey be teh admit. In reality the Negro race is a race of entrepeneuring tycoons, unmatched inventors and epic philosophers, it's just that they hide it very well from us dumb Whites so that we will think we have an advantage over them when the Negro Star Wars breaks out and the devilish White race will be driven back into the steaming lava rivers of Satan's cozy realm. As for your last paragraph, it certainly is nice to know that your IQ-level is at 130, which is not bad at all. Did I mention that you are a very humble person? I don't think I did. You owe me 14 to 16 cookies though, depending on which of yours truly's two English IQ-tests you look at. Did your upper machinery powered by a humongous 130 IQ-points catch that? My little sister did, and she is sitting next to me laughing her ass off. Her laughter may have been initiated when I told her I am talking to a half-Black/Black (make up your mind!) person with an IQ of 130 though. Let her be excused if you are offended, for as your 130 IQ level should have let you come to understand by now, we humans often find humor in paradoxes. And once more, I am not American, and do not feel the need to leave the land which my people in blood have held for thousands of years. I am referring, of course, to your last sentence, where you gently and sensitively tell me and my "pathetic kind" to leave America. * Speciation: The process in which sub-groups of a species developes as seperate and independent branches for a long enough time to become species of their own.
November 18, 200321 yr The reason Sweden has never started any wars is because you are so small, and the population is so low, you would be over run in a matter of days.(I must give you points for not being stupid) No one wants anything from Sweden. It’s like taking candy from a baby. Your country knows nothing about diversity. With a population of just over 5,000,000 how diversified can you get? How many people do you think you can cram into 149,404 square miles? Here in America, we are over 5,000,000 square miles with a population of over 230,000,000. Of course we have many different races. We are "The land of opportunity" You have no Idea what life is like in the US. What you see on the news is just the bad aspects of it. That’s news. What you don’t see is what happens on the outsides of your "peripheral vision" You only see what makes your country Appear better, what you want to see. Come live here in any one of the over 300,000 urban cities in the US, and you know what you will see? The American lifestyle. Happy families, warm apple pie, and houses with white picket fences. With as many people we have in this country, of course we are going to have violence and crime. As you said, that’s human nature. But what you are forgetting is that it has nothing to do with race. It’s the people, not their race. Everyone is different. Whites are just as violent as blacks and Mexicans and so on. Ironically, the only race I don't hear about promoting violence is the Jews. What you seem to do is the most ignorant of all racism remarks. You stereotype people. Not all blacks are gang bangers, not all Mexicans are greasy beaners, and not all Asians are money hungry and own 7-11s. not all Arabs are terrorists, just as not all Norwegians are raping, pilfering, thieves. (That’s what the Vikings were) And not all of us that claim to be black are black. I said that to get a rise out of you. I am actually 100% Swedish. I am willing to bet 10 to 1 that weather you admit it or not, you opinion changes of me. You can preach racial purity all day long, but it still doesn’t change the fact that you are 1 step from being another Hitler. The only thing you don’t have is the power to kill those you dislike. Your statements are very hypocritical. In the beginning of this thread you promote this statement: "Recently, it has become popular to spread yet even more misinformation, this time regarding black inventions. While history has proven that blacks have failed to contribute anything significant to the building of civilization" Yet farther down the tread you say: "In reality the Negro race is a race of entrepeneuring tycoons, unmatched inventors and epic philosophers" I wonder if you really believe any of the things you write about (Or copy from other sources) I also noticed that you zeroed in on my black statement, instead of addressing the more important questions I had. You sound as though you are "dodging the bullet" (another great American saying)
November 18, 200321 yr Author The reason Sweden has never started any wars is because you are so small, and the population is so low, you would be over run in a matter of days.(I must give you points for not being stupid) No one wants anything from Sweden. It?s like taking candy from a baby. Your country knows nothing about diversity. With a population of just over 5,000,000 how diversified can you get? How many people do you think you can cram into 149,404 square miles? This has what to do with what? And for your information, our geographic size and our fragile population count certainly isn't stopping people with your type of opinions from pushing for higher and higher rates of non-White immigration. Whites are just as violent as blacks and Mexicans and so on. What kind of fantasy world do you live in? Have you read any criminal statistics? Blacks and Mexicans are vastly more criminally and violently inclined than Whites. The only way you can even try to back up your statement is to claim that only Blacks are arrested, while Whites criminals go free, and there is no evidence or probabilities what so ever of that being the case. What you seem to do is the most ignorant of all racism remarks. You stereotype people. Not all blacks are gang bangers, not all Mexicans are greasy beaners, and not all Asians are money hungry and own 7-11s. Where? I have not said any such thing, and you know it. You and many people of your political persuasion on the other hand are exceptionally skilled when it comes to stereotyping. It is tragic that you have to invent things to attack. And not all of us that claim to be black are black. I said that to get a rise out of you. You certainly gave me a laugh, as you already know. I am actually 100% Swedish. I am willing to bet 10 to 1 that weather you admit it or not, you opinion changes of me. Quite frankly, we have not exchanged much conversation, and I talk with a lot of people every day, so I have not had the time, incentive or will to form an opinion of you personally. Do you really care for what I do or do not think of you? Right now I think of you as a bitter, self-hating (probably teenage) young male with a lot of time on his hands. I would not be too surprised if you yell at your mother every day for daring to produce offspring with a fellow White, instead of creating a "rainbow" baby who can help replace the evil White population of Sweden with the type of people that loiters around downtown Stockholm at night. You can preach racial purity all day long, but it still doesn?t change the fact that you are 1 step from being another Hitler. The only thing you don?t have is the power to kill those you dislike. What do you base that on? You are very prejudiced against people who have opinions that may or may not resemble something on the right side of the political scale. Do you call legal gun-owners murderers, by any chance? Your statements are very hypocritical. In the beginning of this thread you promote this statement: "Recently, it has become popular to spread yet even more misinformation, this time regarding black inventions. While history has proven that blacks have failed to contribute anything significant to the building of civilization" Yet farther down the tread you say: "In reality the Negro race is a race of entrepeneuring tycoons, unmatched inventors and epic philosophers" I wonder if you really believe any of the things you write about (Or copy from other sources) Hah, I used the most blatant of sarcasm, and you actually base your flame on a faulty interpretation of it. Did you know that the average human develop the ability to recognize sarcasm and irony around the age of four? Hmmm. By the way, you wouldn't know whether I support that first statement at all. The article is good, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with every opinion in it. Do you agree with your political party in all of it's agenda? No, I didn't think so. Yet, you support them. I also noticed that you zeroed in on my black statement, instead of addressing the more important questions I had. You sound as though you are "dodging the bullet" (another great American saying) No, I addressed many, if not the majority of your questions and opinions: If I were to write a two-pager on every sentence you relay from your local school's anti-White indoctrination program, I would be stuck here forever. Click on http://www.stormfront.org/forum/ if you are very interested in discussing racial and social issues with pro-White people of all sorts. It also happens to be one of the largest political forums in existance, so you will be guaranteed a lot of response very fast. Stick to the section for antis and do a little searching before asking the most inane of questions, and you will be alright.
