October 15, 200519 yr MAKONG']Clearly that "unix" kid doesn't know what he's talking about. To poster: When you start C++, it's best to attempt a prog someone's done before. So you can use their code to help guide you through it. The more you apply your knoweledge, the easier it is to remember. So I recommend doing a few projects. One of my frist was a Counter-Strike hack. I started at game-deception.com for that. I think it's down at the moment though. http://www.mpcforum.com/showthread.php?t=23833 That works too.